some brown noctua fans before 2009 were 12 cm and quite loud
they did however also put out incredible amount of air
saying all noctua is silent is just not true, there were loud models also and the fan color doesnt tell which is it
Followup question: If I build a 2-3U server with a good case and all noctua fans, will it be silent enough that I can have it in my studio apartment and not horrify women?
My server has a Noctua cooler for the cpu and that thing is perfectly audible when it needs to rev up. It's only silent when it's cruising at like >40%
NF-A12x25 is the best-in-class 120mm fan.
The other Noctua fans were designed over ten years ago, these aren't worth the asking price.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a12x25-pwm-the-most-fine-tuned-fan-of-its-kind/
no fans are silent
I have 10yr old noctuas that have no noticeable wear after being used the entire time compared to new ones
imo buy noctuas once and you don't need to worry again
Just move your PC in another room. Noise problem solved. Arctic fans move same if not more air per feet at a fraction of the price. They also come in black instead of ugly brown.
>Just move your PC in another room.
What are the logistics of doing this anyways? I've been thinking for the past five minutes of moving my PC into the hallway for sheer heat reasons come summer. Don't say "run the AC" or "get a fan" as it doesn't help much when it's 105F/41C outside.
Because I'd like to game in summer and having a device that's running at 190F makes things worse. It's also a rather small room so it makes a difference.
Depends on setup obviously. I have my house wired for ethernet so I just used one of those hdmi over ethernet extension things to connect my pc to my living room tv. Was a little bit of a pain because it has to be the same run obviously but it works fine with the line to the living room and my office coupled at the patch bay. Then it was just keyboard/mouse, which are wireless, and the office was close enough that they worked over bluetooth but that could be a headache in bigger houses or if there’s more separation.
How does one diagnose fan noises? I'm not sure if I need to replace my CPU cooler. It inconsistently gives off a fairly loud noise. If I happen to detach it from the heat sink while it's making that noise, it's quiet in my hands, which makes me think it isn't the bearings, but rather, that something else in the case is vibrating.
I can't visually identify anything as moving, the case is too cramped to try and use my ear to accurately locate the source of the noise, and the fact that it only happens at unpredictable moments of raised fan speed makes it hard to test on-demand. I tried putting some foam between the plastic fan case clips and the CPU heat sink, but it didn't do the job.
>they don't seem that quiet
ofcourse theyre not
Noctua fans are great because they last long. that's it. otherwise get
nope
get BeQuiet fans
these.
I've seen 10,12,15 year old Noctuas that you just blow and dust them off a bit and they're like brand new. BeQuiet solved the noise issue. Perhaps they won't last you until 2032, but they are very quiet.
When I was building my PC in 2019, reviewers and shiet were saying Arctic P12 was super cheap as a 5 pack and had almost Noctua performance, especially anything below max RPM. I bought that and it didn't disappoint. Pleb visitors freak out how silent my PC is and that's even when the CPU is at 100% mining monero peh. If you shit money, Noctua should be worry free I suppose.
Isn't coloring the heatsink while keeping performance very difficult? That would be why. Just get their black fans and slap them on the standard heatsink, looks cooler anyway.
they are not a meme. they will last, and have very good performance too. they're quiet (tho beQuiet tends to have a better rep here, just in exchange for perf & reliability)
im using their NH-U14S DX-4677 and it can pull its 650W away while being practically completely silent while idle (which still pulls like 80W). tbf that's in part due to the massive IHS but still cool tech
I run 7 in my PC case, 3 on my AIO, and the rest in my case, I run them around 60% speed. Even using the pass-through mode on my headphones, I can't hear them. I turn them up to 100% and they are still so silent it is barely a whisper. Other fans can't compete.
They make noise at higher RPM's but it's a more soothing sound and doesn't have any hiccups at certain RPM's like some fans.
Last forever as well, I still have some from 2008 going.
Is it worth buying 5 for a case? Frick no. Get an Arctic 5 pack.
Can't say I've compared to that many other fans, but they're way better than some Corsair fans I had. I don't really buy Noctua for the silence though, I buy them because these fans have absolutely top-tier reliability, I've had some in use for many, many years and the damn things don't show a single sign of wear. No rattling, no weird noises, no odd vibration at particular speeds and crap like that. Those Corsair fans I had I just replaced because they were making ticking sounds at particular PWM settings only. I tried to oil them but it didn't help. Those lasted for quite a few years too so I don't think they're bad fans or anything, but I have Noctuas that are just as old since I bought them at the same time and those are ALL still flawless.
You can tell a proper amount of attention went into their design too. Most reviews don't even mention shit like how fans respond to PWM signals. The Noctuas can drop to like less than 20% of their max speed, if you set them to 0% they actually stop, if you want to start one up at low PWM it's smart enough to use more juice until it gets moving before dropping to the set value, they start and stop smoothly, they detect if they're obstructed and stop rather than risking burn out then start automatically again. They're certainly expensive but I get a top-quality product which is highly reliable on the long term. Those Corsairs for instance barely dropped under 50%, couldn't be stopped via PWM and every time they started they made a loud, nasty noise like they were going to shake apart or something, happened every time I turned my PC on.
Noisiest fans I have in my case are noctuas that look exactly like that. They have an annoying resonation at 1100-1200rpm and at full 1350rpm they are frickin loud compared to everything else.
I don't see what makes them good, every fan is loud above 900rpm, and you can get fluid bearing fans cheaper.
they're built goodly and will probably last the lifetime of the computer, but personally I prefer a watercooling loop that pumps down into a 30 foot borehole in my back yard and uses geothermal cooling to keep things running crisp.
>you will not notice a difference
except the constant ticking noise and high pitched resonance at some specific speeds!
arctic fans are overrated garbage
more like I setup my pwm properly and didn't Black personclock my 13600k because I don't need .1% more fps in slopnite, sorry you fell for the poopfan meme or you're one of those audiophile freaks that talk endlessly about soundstage or whatever
you're brown and live in a dirty brown people place with a cacaphony of car horns, dogs barking and your fellow countrymen openly defecating on the street outside
Old news. These revisions are no longer on the market. The motor has been modified. I have 4 rev.2 and 4 rev.4 fans. rev.2 has the whine issue. The rev.4 I replaced them with do not have significant whine or peaking along the RPM range and are overall quieter. The rev 2 whine was pretty damn loud actually.
I bought them for my case and CPU cooling 5 years ago and have no regrets, great quality very silent. Not a fan of the color but I have a closed case anyway.
noctua is consistently good. i've had a couple bequiet fans and the PWM models get louder than noctua. but if you need general case fans that aren't going to spin up very fast then bequiet fans are pretty good.
I just don't know how anyone can shill them anymore
They run to LTT for merch sales and homosexualry shilling
They take 10 years to redesign a coole
They could not figure out how to paint fans white and abandoned the entire project after 4 years working on it
They make meme asus gpu skus
Thermalright have reverse engineered and improved on all their designs anyway
They act like they're the only game in town it's not 2012 any more
>Thermalright have reverse engineered and improved on all their designs anyway
This kek. Peerless Assassin is literally all you need. It's OBJECTIVELY better than the NH-D15, while smaller and massively cheaper. I could get the white version for fricking 35 bucks RIGHT NOW which is hilarious.
>Thermalright have reverse engineered and improved on all their designs anyway
This kek. Peerless Assassin is literally all you need. It's OBJECTIVELY better than the NH-D15, while smaller and massively cheaper. I could get the white version for fricking 35 bucks RIGHT NOW which is hilarious.
Pretty much correct on all counts. I wish for the massive premium you paid you at least got a product made in the EU instead of China. They're still good products, but they've got a lot of very interesting competition in 2024.
>current year, all Noctua fans are produced in either Taiwan or China
Damn, even i thought they had at least that going for them.
t. Arctic dump for PCs, Sunon for other projects enjoyer
I got memed into using them on my cooler. They are the loudest fans in my case at full speed. They are louder than the three fans on my 4090. It's hard to justify the cost.
Why do you want a completely passive system when you won't hear a 600RPM fan in any way when adding a 600RPM fan increases the performance of this cooler by 1200%
Not him, but for example I have a setup with completely passive internal components and large manually controlled case intake fans. I got tired of the BIOS resetting my fan curves whenever it pleases and got tired of the fans ramping up for 2 seconds whenever I clicked on a link or some shit. It's a drastic measure, but it works for me and I couldn't be happier.
re-check your ambient temps and you should be fine. If your a cheap bastard and rather save money on AC then having an active cooler is always cheaper per watt
The temperature expansion/contraction harmonics are only barely perceivable in the Arctic competitor. After I few days I was used to the noise and now I'm glad I didn't fork over for the Noctua.
if they made a version with vertical fins AND didn't cost up the ass, i'd buy it
in almost all scenarios it makes more sense to just buy a regular tower cooler and just throw away the fan
I got 3 non spinning NF-F12s, the cables are not broken in an obvious way. They seem defective, I sent this to their support and they sent out 3 replacements free of charge.
To answer your question OP: At 5% speed my boomer ears can't hear a thing.
I am usually team Arctic but I recently bought my first noctua to mod a classic Xbox. Arctic just doesn't offer 60 or 40mm fans.
I have to admit that the Noctuas are a level above Arctic from a quality of plastics and nifty attention to details point of view (i.e. the embedded rubber parts on the corners impressed me). They also come with a lot of accessories (speed adapters, rubber mounts for mechanical decoupling) which relatives the high price a little.
For general purpose cooling in a PC I would always use Arctic since they are on another level in the value for money category and have always been good enough for me but for specialised purposes I have to admit that Noctua is a great choice.
Yeah you're right. It's a side grade since I needed to up the fan speed to 100% to maintain reasonable temps. The reason for the side grade is that on my 1.0 xbox the small GPU fan was becoming noisy and so I wanted to make a noise optimized build and now the xbox is a lot more quiet and runs at the same temps. Undervolting might also be an option to further decrease temps.
All casefans are a meme. You are literally fine with just a CPU fan + the one that comes with a GPU.
Just don't get a shitty cheap GPU with bottom of the barrel cooling and get a quality PSU that's actually efficient so it doesn't have to run its fans all the time
why would you clone the shit+cum colors haha, tt never get it
noctua are overrated and overpriced, i resent paying >100 for a hsf and extra for replacement non-ugly fans coz they're the only manuf doing my socket 4677
Noctua fans are much louder than Arctic P14's from what I've heard in my testing, they have some fricked up harmonic resonance that is very annoying and two of my friends have also confirmed the same. even on my NH-D14S I wound up swapping the stock fan with a Arctic Bionix P14 which at 1000~ RPM is silent.
yeah no kidding, the second it goes above 850 rpm you can definitely hear it even from 2 meters away, if it wasn't for the voltage adapters they provide I would have swapped them out and thrown them into the fricking trash. and reddit homosexuals unironically defend them, unreal.
i have some and they are not silent, if their is no noise in my room. tbh if i am typing fast i hear my keyboard more then my fans, same with watching anime or playing games.
why do goys like you that leave your fans on the motherboard default fan profile think that your opinion is important? or why don't you mention at what RPMs they run at? what? why?
I have it on the performance setting, yes I know it's louder that way and I suppose I should have mentioned it. It's not like I can't go to sleep with it on. It just isn't completely silent if your activity listening for it. It's like white noise but it's still noise.
use fancontrol and set your own profiles. I have my case fans manually set to 50% (~800 rpm) only, and my cpu is 50% up to 70c ramping up as it climbs above 70c. the only fan I even really hear is the gpu fan when a game actually stresses my gpu.
they can be silent as death with ULN adapters but I don't use those as I need to cool the hoarding tower properly so they run at full rpm all the time (3-pin) but you still barely hear them unless you're really close (with my fractal xl r2 case)
Totally silent most of the time
But if I start a game it's like my computer turns into a jet turbine
I have an open case so maybe that contributes to it
>muh noise
As long as they sound sound like a jet taking off, who gives a frick? I guarantee no more than 0.001% of the people sperging about MUH NOISE from their computer are doing anything that actually benefits from not having even white noise in the background, and that percentage of people are going to have recording studios anyway.
No, they're actually better, at least for the price. Compare the CFM, static pressure, and noise levels between Noctua and any similarly priced fan. Noctua wins every time
>I don't care about noise since I have a dehumidifier running 24/7 here, what are some cheaper performance fans?
Dimensions? Arctic P12 for performance/price. P12 MAX if you want to go all out
If you're the type of person who doesn't mind paying for the best, then you can rest assured that noctua is that. However, fans are not that important. It all depends on you and your desires.
Some magic, hypothetical perfectly silent FAN would still have audible AIR NOISE.
Yes you can design a motor, blade and housing that are so quiet you can't hear it above a typical noise floor. But the AIR MOVING STILL MAKES NOISE AND NO AMOUNT OF DESIGN OR DOLLARS STOPS THAT.
At least, not without severely compromising the qualities you want from air motion that contribute to cooling effectiveness.
>are Noctua?
yes. to any question you ask yes. Overpriced? Yes. High quality? Yes. Quiet? Yes.
Do I run three iPPC 3000 140mms on my front radiator? Yes.
Is the sound fricking glorious when spun up for benchmarking runs? Abso god damn lutely.
I have like 8 of these fans for the front of my Corsair 7000D. and 4, 140mm for the top and exhaust. I wish it was all 140mm around it would be alot more airflow.
>CONSOOOOOOOM
Yeah i never understood people building new PC's every 4 years. Let alone new phones every year and new cars every 5 years. Barely any game i play requires me to upgrade my graphics card alone. Gonna keep this PC until the 10 year mark like my last one.
I have a cougar 120 from 2013 that has been running basically 24/7 since the day it was bought.
Good fans don't break (quickly).
Since Cougar fans are equivalent to a mildly-QC-rejected Noctua (at least the important motor/bearing/shaft/tolerances bits) , I expect a noctua to last +50% what a Cougar does.
Important qualities if your focus is on long term usage of the PC. Honestly though fans as a whole are to expensive i remember noctua fans being 15-20$ instead of almost 30$ and regular fan brands where 10$ for a pack of 3 or 4. Fans where so cheap that people would build rack mount units to cool of certain parts of the server room space or mobile carts with computers.
Frick box fan prices i could get 1 fan for 10$ and just slap that on the side of my computer and be fine too
>30mm fans
Literally moves more air with better pressure and less speed and noise.
Phanteks T30 is the new Noctua, Antec T3 is the new Arctic.
If only they made 38mms that were optimized for low RPMs and weren't screaming 3000rpm industrial fans.
I mean they're good but they a bit pricey. I just get Arctic Cooling P12 in 5 Pack from microcenter. If I need to replace my fans I just pop in a new one.
Who keeps there computer long enough to even worry about fans breaking ? I get the noise being the biggest complaint but everyone seems to be on the hook for fans breaking. Is that really an issue when most people do a full system upgrade after 4 years anyways?
I have a cougar 120 from 2013 that has been running basically 24/7 since the day it was bought.
Good fans don't break (quickly).
Since Cougar fans are equivalent to a mildly-QC-rejected Noctua (at least the important motor/bearing/shaft/tolerances bits) , I expect a noctua to last +50% what a Cougar does.
I don't give a shit about you or your confidence, but whatever product you want. I have 5 Bionix P14 in my case and don't have such an issue so clearly it was a one-off with a specific version of the P12
>Are Noctua fans a meme?
Not really. They used to be the best in almost any fan size but slow/no updates made competitors catch up. >Are they silent?
Yes. But there are fans that are almost equivalent but have a better, more pleasing sound profile, so you could ramp them higher, being on paper louder, but still more comfortable to run.
That being said for case fans Endorfy Fluctus are better unless directly being behind mesh/struts then you'll have to get spaccers or a thicker rubber gasket.
For radiators there are many that perform better but usually have a bad sound profile (T30) or are just louder. But for price/performance you can get many pressure fans are almost equivalent at some point in the fan curve but you'll have to check many reviews for that.
As exhaust/pull the NF-A12 get beat by their own NF-S12A, and even then you could still use Fluctus and use higher RPM cause they sound nice.
They're good but cheaper fans are just as good except they don't come with the extra cables and other conveniences. I bought a bunch of arctic b-stock fans in bulk.
>silent
Nothing with a moving part is going to be silent. Noctua fans are very quiet, though. And if you run them at low RPM, they will be close to your ambient noise level.
What he said. The best thing you can do is make the fans as large as possible for much more pleasant frequencies. Not to mention they don't need to spin as fast to move a certain amount of air. I wouldn't go back to fans smaller than 180mm, personally.
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Who cares, just buy whatever has good reputation. Fans last for 5-10 years so it's not like you'll be making big win saving a few bucks on aliexpress brands anyways.
>100+ replies >it's all noctua shills
daily noctua shilling thread like fricking clockwork every time one of these threads pops up. noctuagays are absolutely delusional. if you care THIS much about fan noise; you are autistic. you are genuinely autistic. objectively autistic. you are an autist. cope or join the rope. this really is just another case of someone who has such a huge ego that they could never admit that they made a bad purchase so they have to create these reddit-esque circlejerks for validation. >hurr durr no u! ur poorgay durrrrrrr
correction, YOU are the poorgays. poorgays tend to buy things they can't really afford. fact. if you weren't poor and actually cared this much about fricking fan noise lmao, you would be able to afford a passive cooling system which costs more than anything noctua has put out.
I set my 6 Noctuas to just run at 50% speed and it’s extremely quiet and temps are low. I think Light Wings are good too. If you’re poor though just get cheap fans and wear headphones it’s not the end of the world.
Noctua is a an investment. Buy a cooler, use it for the next 30-infinity years they send you new kits to mount it to your CPU.
But its also fine to buy a budget alternative that performs similarly, just without the life-long support.
Yes, the fans are silent at normal usage, but in my fan curves I dont have any hesitation to turn them up to 100%. At 100% they are not loud at all but more importantly they have a very gentle "Woosh" sound that will disturb almost no one, in fact its is quit pleasant.
My home server's AMD stock cooler makes less noise than the hard drives. When I built it I bought a Noctua but it's still unpacked.
Random pic for your entertainement.
"lifetime warranty" 100% depends on how honorable the company is. I had a "lifetime warranty.
When it comes to my samsung SSD, the piece of shit broke randomly out of nowhere, samsung support told me off and directed me to some other PoS company that didnt even have a contact. Good example of how their promise is worthless.
When it comes to noctua, I bought a used PC in 2013 it had a noctua cooler, sent a picture of it to them in 2017 and they sent me a mounting kit for free.
I've bought many other brands but their bearings always start rattling after a number of years.
None of my Noctua fans have ever failed.
Probably still cheaper to replace cheap fans every 3-5 years but I find that too much hassle.
no, yes
some brown noctua fans before 2009 were 12 cm and quite loud
they did however also put out incredible amount of air
saying all noctua is silent is just not true, there were loud models also and the fan color doesnt tell which is it
that is what i run
10/10
no, not exactly.
Followup question: If I build a 2-3U server with a good case and all noctua fans, will it be silent enough that I can have it in my studio apartment and not horrify women?
nope
get BeQuiet fans
Thanks for the rec
My server has a Noctua cooler for the cpu and that thing is perfectly audible when it needs to rev up. It's only silent when it's cruising at like >40%
They're as good as their rep makes them out to be in my experience.
No they are not a meme
Yes they are silent
Are they worth 30$ a pop? Debatable
NF-A12x25 is the best-in-class 120mm fan.
The other Noctua fans were designed over ten years ago, these aren't worth the asking price.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a12x25-pwm-the-most-fine-tuned-fan-of-its-kind/
this
140mm version should be coming this year (q2?)
at 800 RPM? yes
at 1600 RPM? no
They make poorgays on IQfy seethe and that is worth ti
anyone who's not poor is running a custom loop with fans with good static pressure, which are not the brown shit fans anon
They're really good and not a meme. If you're a poorgay just buy the grey versions
no fans are silent
I have 10yr old noctuas that have no noticeable wear after being used the entire time compared to new ones
imo buy noctuas once and you don't need to worry again
Just move your PC in another room. Noise problem solved. Arctic fans move same if not more air per feet at a fraction of the price. They also come in black instead of ugly brown.
nein
these are great fans
this. just drill a hole in your wall and feed the cables from your computer to your monitor mouse and keyboard. zero noise and no coil whine
>They also come in black instead of ugly brown.
can confirm mine are all black
>another room.
you guys have those?
>Just move your PC in another room.
What are the logistics of doing this anyways? I've been thinking for the past five minutes of moving my PC into the hallway for sheer heat reasons come summer. Don't say "run the AC" or "get a fan" as it doesn't help much when it's 105F/41C outside.
I live in south Texas where we had 30+ straight days of 105+ degree heat indexes last year and I simply turned on my air conditioning.
What kind of rustic shit boxes do you people live in that a COMPUTER being on in the same room as you overpowers the central AC to make the room hot
jesus christ
Because I'd like to game in summer and having a device that's running at 190F makes things worse. It's also a rather small room so it makes a difference.
some people have a fetish for housefire type rigs then love complaining about them in summer
Depends on setup obviously. I have my house wired for ethernet so I just used one of those hdmi over ethernet extension things to connect my pc to my living room tv. Was a little bit of a pain because it has to be the same run obviously but it works fine with the line to the living room and my office coupled at the patch bay. Then it was just keyboard/mouse, which are wireless, and the office was close enough that they worked over bluetooth but that could be a headache in bigger houses or if there’s more separation.
yes but your picture is louder than a 5000 RPM delta server fan even at 700RPM
Noctua cured my ailing pc many years ago
30 degree celsius reduction in temps from my stock cooler (tbf new thermal paste would have done a lot on its own)
No more stuttering in Battlefield 1, felt like I'd upgraded to a new CPU
I will defend Noctua for as long as I live. I almost bought the Noctua keycap set from Drop.com
as long as they were the mt3 profile it would be forgivable, although I would crave chocolate every time I sat down at the computer if I had them.
Made by noctua or just noctua color theme??
"noctua colors with noctua's express permission" would be my guess
a true noctua keyboard would imo have a functional miniature of a noctua fan (shrunk down to 2cm2) over the numpad
How does one diagnose fan noises? I'm not sure if I need to replace my CPU cooler. It inconsistently gives off a fairly loud noise. If I happen to detach it from the heat sink while it's making that noise, it's quiet in my hands, which makes me think it isn't the bearings, but rather, that something else in the case is vibrating.
I can't visually identify anything as moving, the case is too cramped to try and use my ear to accurately locate the source of the noise, and the fact that it only happens at unpredictable moments of raised fan speed makes it hard to test on-demand. I tried putting some foam between the plastic fan case clips and the CPU heat sink, but it didn't do the job.
i have all noctua except gpu fan and IDK if it's worth it tbh. they don't seem that quiet
>they don't seem that quiet
ofcourse theyre not
Noctua fans are great because they last long. that's it. otherwise get
these.
I've seen 10,12,15 year old Noctuas that you just blow and dust them off a bit and they're like brand new. BeQuiet solved the noise issue. Perhaps they won't last you until 2032, but they are very quiet.
>Noctua fans are great because they last long
hell yes they do, they are built like tanks.
Almost as big a meme as AIO liquid coolers.
When I was building my PC in 2019, reviewers and shiet were saying Arctic P12 was super cheap as a 5 pack and had almost Noctua performance, especially anything below max RPM. I bought that and it didn't disappoint. Pleb visitors freak out how silent my PC is and that's even when the CPU is at 100% mining monero peh. If you shit money, Noctua should be worry free I suppose.
Jews for charging more to not have shit brown colors
Good fans though, fairly silent but better for reliability and performance
Isn't coloring the heatsink while keeping performance very difficult? That would be why. Just get their black fans and slap them on the standard heatsink, looks cooler anyway.
so buy any of the other colors they offer. you aren't limited to brown. why are you such a massive homosexual?
they are not a meme. they will last, and have very good performance too. they're quiet (tho beQuiet tends to have a better rep here, just in exchange for perf & reliability)
im using their NH-U14S DX-4677 and it can pull its 650W away while being practically completely silent while idle (which still pulls like 80W). tbf that's in part due to the massive IHS but still cool tech
I run 7 in my PC case, 3 on my AIO, and the rest in my case, I run them around 60% speed. Even using the pass-through mode on my headphones, I can't hear them. I turn them up to 100% and they are still so silent it is barely a whisper. Other fans can't compete.
if you need silent, go fanless
if you need cool, go box fan or liquid cooling and a massive radiator.
spoken like a true poorgay
wrong
They make noise at higher RPM's but it's a more soothing sound and doesn't have any hiccups at certain RPM's like some fans.
Last forever as well, I still have some from 2008 going.
Is it worth buying 5 for a case? Frick no. Get an Arctic 5 pack.
Can't say I've compared to that many other fans, but they're way better than some Corsair fans I had. I don't really buy Noctua for the silence though, I buy them because these fans have absolutely top-tier reliability, I've had some in use for many, many years and the damn things don't show a single sign of wear. No rattling, no weird noises, no odd vibration at particular speeds and crap like that. Those Corsair fans I had I just replaced because they were making ticking sounds at particular PWM settings only. I tried to oil them but it didn't help. Those lasted for quite a few years too so I don't think they're bad fans or anything, but I have Noctuas that are just as old since I bought them at the same time and those are ALL still flawless.
You can tell a proper amount of attention went into their design too. Most reviews don't even mention shit like how fans respond to PWM signals. The Noctuas can drop to like less than 20% of their max speed, if you set them to 0% they actually stop, if you want to start one up at low PWM it's smart enough to use more juice until it gets moving before dropping to the set value, they start and stop smoothly, they detect if they're obstructed and stop rather than risking burn out then start automatically again. They're certainly expensive but I get a top-quality product which is highly reliable on the long term. Those Corsairs for instance barely dropped under 50%, couldn't be stopped via PWM and every time they started they made a loud, nasty noise like they were going to shake apart or something, happened every time I turned my PC on.
>caring this much about some shitty case fan
Black person can you just get a gf??
based fan autist
I appreciate autists and their interests
they always provide a keen and critical eye to things that go unobserved by many
yes, yes
Noisiest fans I have in my case are noctuas that look exactly like that. They have an annoying resonation at 1100-1200rpm and at full 1350rpm they are frickin loud compared to everything else.
I don't see what makes them good, every fan is loud above 900rpm, and you can get fluid bearing fans cheaper.
>he uses radiator fans as case fans
user error
they're built goodly and will probably last the lifetime of the computer, but personally I prefer a watercooling loop that pumps down into a 30 foot borehole in my back yard and uses geothermal cooling to keep things running crisp.
FANS are a meme
I just have my case open and it werks
If you're using 120s, Phanteks makes a 120x30 fan which outperforms Noctua. They don't make a 140mm version afaik so 140 Noctua is still king.
just buy arctic p14s, you will not notice a difference
>you will not notice a difference
except the constant ticking noise and high pitched resonance at some specific speeds!
arctic fans are overrated garbage
works on my machine and no you can't really overrate cheap fans that work
>works on my machine
more like: you're deaf
more like I setup my pwm properly and didn't Black personclock my 13600k because I don't need .1% more fps in slopnite, sorry you fell for the poopfan meme or you're one of those audiophile freaks that talk endlessly about soundstage or whatever
don't have your computer near your ears then? mine is under the desk and I can't hear shit.
Sorry, I am not poor so I don't have to cope with compromise fans.
wrong
you're brown and live in a dirty brown people place with a cacaphony of car horns, dogs barking and your fellow countrymen openly defecating on the street outside
>just buy arctic p12/p14 bro it's the same thing!!!
?t=381
yeah just make sure they always stay at a fixed speed!!! lol!
Old news. These revisions are no longer on the market. The motor has been modified. I have 4 rev.2 and 4 rev.4 fans. rev.2 has the whine issue. The rev.4 I replaced them with do not have significant whine or peaking along the RPM range and are overall quieter. The rev 2 whine was pretty damn loud actually.
I bought them for my case and CPU cooling 5 years ago and have no regrets, great quality very silent. Not a fan of the color but I have a closed case anyway.
noctua is consistently good. i've had a couple bequiet fans and the PWM models get louder than noctua. but if you need general case fans that aren't going to spin up very fast then bequiet fans are pretty good.
I just don't know how anyone can shill them anymore
They run to LTT for merch sales and homosexualry shilling
They take 10 years to redesign a coole
They could not figure out how to paint fans white and abandoned the entire project after 4 years working on it
They make meme asus gpu skus
Thermalright have reverse engineered and improved on all their designs anyway
They act like they're the only game in town it's not 2012 any more
>Thermalright have reverse engineered and improved on all their designs anyway
This kek. Peerless Assassin is literally all you need. It's OBJECTIVELY better than the NH-D15, while smaller and massively cheaper. I could get the white version for fricking 35 bucks RIGHT NOW which is hilarious.
I want the Peerless Assassin 90 SE on stores now pls
>not getting the Thermalright Frost Spirit for the same price
The Frost Spirit is better
Pretty much correct on all counts. I wish for the massive premium you paid you at least got a product made in the EU instead of China. They're still good products, but they've got a lot of very interesting competition in 2024.
>current year, all Noctua fans are produced in either Taiwan or China
Damn, even i thought they had at least that going for them.
t. Arctic dump for PCs, Sunon for other projects enjoyer
I got memed into using them on my cooler. They are the loudest fans in my case at full speed. They are louder than the three fans on my 4090. It's hard to justify the cost.
Think they going the same way as Zalman?
Nocuta NH-P1
completely silent
Why do you want a completely passive system when you won't hear a 600RPM fan in any way when adding a 600RPM fan increases the performance of this cooler by 1200%
they're not silent in my anechoic chamber
>they're not silent in my anechoic chamber
Well that's a use case at least
Not him, but for example I have a setup with completely passive internal components and large manually controlled case intake fans. I got tired of the BIOS resetting my fan curves whenever it pleases and got tired of the fans ramping up for 2 seconds whenever I clicked on a link or some shit. It's a drastic measure, but it works for me and I couldn't be happier.
>0dB
talk me out of falling for this meme for my home server
re-check your ambient temps and you should be fine. If your a cheap bastard and rather save money on AC then having an active cooler is always cheaper per watt
The temperature expansion/contraction harmonics are only barely perceivable in the Arctic competitor. After I few days I was used to the noise and now I'm glad I didn't fork over for the Noctua.
if they made a version with vertical fins AND didn't cost up the ass, i'd buy it
in almost all scenarios it makes more sense to just buy a regular tower cooler and just throw away the fan
I got 3 non spinning NF-F12s, the cables are not broken in an obvious way. They seem defective, I sent this to their support and they sent out 3 replacements free of charge.
To answer your question OP: At 5% speed my boomer ears can't hear a thing.
Update, Noctua support only sent one fan out of three defective NF-F12s. Oh well..
They are a meme. And for good reason.
I am usually team Arctic but I recently bought my first noctua to mod a classic Xbox. Arctic just doesn't offer 60 or 40mm fans.
I have to admit that the Noctuas are a level above Arctic from a quality of plastics and nifty attention to details point of view (i.e. the embedded rubber parts on the corners impressed me). They also come with a lot of accessories (speed adapters, rubber mounts for mechanical decoupling) which relatives the high price a little.
For general purpose cooling in a PC I would always use Arctic since they are on another level in the value for money category and have always been good enough for me but for specialised purposes I have to admit that Noctua is a great choice.
>replacing 72mm with 60mm
>upgrade
This is the kinda shit why people laugh about console kiddies.
Yeah you're right. It's a side grade since I needed to up the fan speed to 100% to maintain reasonable temps. The reason for the side grade is that on my 1.0 xbox the small GPU fan was becoming noisy and so I wanted to make a noise optimized build and now the xbox is a lot more quiet and runs at the same temps. Undervolting might also be an option to further decrease temps.
All casefans are a meme. You are literally fine with just a CPU fan + the one that comes with a GPU.
Just don't get a shitty cheap GPU with bottom of the barrel cooling and get a quality PSU that's actually efficient so it doesn't have to run its fans all the time
>>All casefans are a meme.
honestly this is the truth
they're still the best fans available.
probably better price/performance options however.
based thermaltake cloning noctuas
They're both gentle typhoon clones, zoomer.
inferior motors and inferior materials (no Liquid-crystal polymer)
why would you clone the shit+cum colors haha, tt never get it
noctua are overrated and overpriced, i resent paying >100 for a hsf and extra for replacement non-ugly fans coz they're the only manuf doing my socket 4677
I can fill my whole PC with Arctic P12s and then some for the amount of money of ONE (1) single Noctua NF-A12x25 fan
Are you saying that a single Noctua fan is better than 6 Artctic P12?
enjoy your whines.
Literally inaudible at 800RPM
Why would you ever run your casefans higher than that?
but it cools better noise normalized
lol, even in the video you linked the dude says in the comments that they fixed that issue in new versions.
>buy 4 fans
>they are trash
>they fixed that issue in new versions.
alright thanks man, brb buying another 4
fricking schizo lmao
I bet you also head artic fan tokd you to have a nice day too
Quality over quantity, son.
noctua is overpriced and not even better than the competition
thoughts on using F12 PPC 3000 as intake fans? i obviously don't care about noise
Noctua fans are much louder than Arctic P14's from what I've heard in my testing, they have some fricked up harmonic resonance that is very annoying and two of my friends have also confirmed the same. even on my NH-D14S I wound up swapping the stock fan with a Arctic Bionix P14 which at 1000~ RPM is silent.
Have two 140mm, can confirm they have an awful whine at various points between 700-900rpm.
yeah no kidding, the second it goes above 850 rpm you can definitely hear it even from 2 meters away, if it wasn't for the voltage adapters they provide I would have swapped them out and thrown them into the fricking trash. and reddit homosexuals unironically defend them, unreal.
>Are they silent
yes, completely mine must have close to 10 years, going strong and silent
BUT the radiator is a b***h to clean if you get one of those for the CPU
i have some and they are not silent, if their is no noise in my room. tbh if i am typing fast i hear my keyboard more then my fans, same with watching anime or playing games.
why do goys like you that leave your fans on the motherboard default fan profile think that your opinion is important? or why don't you mention at what RPMs they run at? what? why?
I have it on the performance setting, yes I know it's louder that way and I suppose I should have mentioned it. It's not like I can't go to sleep with it on. It just isn't completely silent if your activity listening for it. It's like white noise but it's still noise.
fan profiles vary. all that matters is the RPM (range)
any fan is going to be loud near peak. get hwinfo to see RPMs
use fancontrol and set your own profiles. I have my case fans manually set to 50% (~800 rpm) only, and my cpu is 50% up to 70c ramping up as it climbs above 70c. the only fan I even really hear is the gpu fan when a game actually stresses my gpu.
they can be silent as death with ULN adapters but I don't use those as I need to cool the hoarding tower properly so they run at full rpm all the time (3-pin) but you still barely hear them unless you're really close (with my fractal xl r2 case)
I have these on my PC but it is still making some rattling noise
I don't know where it comes from it's triggering me
Totally silent most of the time
But if I start a game it's like my computer turns into a jet turbine
I have an open case so maybe that contributes to it
>muh noise
As long as they sound sound like a jet taking off, who gives a frick? I guarantee no more than 0.001% of the people sperging about MUH NOISE from their computer are doing anything that actually benefits from not having even white noise in the background, and that percentage of people are going to have recording studios anyway.
White Austrian Aryan Technology
will buy anytime
No, they're actually better, at least for the price. Compare the CFM, static pressure, and noise levels between Noctua and any similarly priced fan. Noctua wins every time
>I don't care about noise since I have a dehumidifier running 24/7 here, what are some cheaper performance fans?
Dimensions? Arctic P12 for performance/price. P12 MAX if you want to go all out
If you're the type of person who doesn't mind paying for the best, then you can rest assured that noctua is that. However, fans are not that important. It all depends on you and your desires.
overpriced meme, as always
Any fricking fan that goes above 1000 rpm starts emanating a noticeable noise.
All these brands are full of shit.
sorry I need my CPU to be at 35C I run my fans at 1200 RPM all day the slight noise is no problem.
Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM, Heavy Duty Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 3000 RPM (120mm, Black)
Some magic, hypothetical perfectly silent FAN would still have audible AIR NOISE.
Yes you can design a motor, blade and housing that are so quiet you can't hear it above a typical noise floor. But the AIR MOVING STILL MAKES NOISE AND NO AMOUNT OF DESIGN OR DOLLARS STOPS THAT.
At least, not without severely compromising the qualities you want from air motion that contribute to cooling effectiveness.
>are Noctua?
yes. to any question you ask yes. Overpriced? Yes. High quality? Yes. Quiet? Yes.
Do I run three iPPC 3000 140mms on my front radiator? Yes.
Is the sound fricking glorious when spun up for benchmarking runs? Abso god damn lutely.
>(120mm)
Pussy.
I have like 8 of these fans for the front of my Corsair 7000D. and 4, 140mm for the top and exhaust. I wish it was all 140mm around it would be alot more airflow.
Yeah i never understood people building new PC's every 4 years. Let alone new phones every year and new cars every 5 years. Barely any game i play requires me to upgrade my graphics card alone. Gonna keep this PC until the 10 year mark like my last one.
Important qualities if your focus is on long term usage of the PC. Honestly though fans as a whole are to expensive i remember noctua fans being 15-20$ instead of almost 30$ and regular fan brands where 10$ for a pack of 3 or 4. Fans where so cheap that people would build rack mount units to cool of certain parts of the server room space or mobile carts with computers.
Frick box fan prices i could get 1 fan for 10$ and just slap that on the side of my computer and be fine too
air makes noise?
Antec Storm T3 is the best value 30mm extra-thick fan
>30mm fans
Literally moves more air with better pressure and less speed and noise.
Phanteks T30 is the new Noctua, Antec T3 is the new Arctic.
If only they made 38mms that were optimized for low RPMs and weren't screaming 3000rpm industrial fans.
>Phanteks T30
price?
I mean they're good but they a bit pricey. I just get Arctic Cooling P12 in 5 Pack from microcenter. If I need to replace my fans I just pop in a new one.
I have 10 of them, they're fairly silent (at least compared to Arctic P12s).
Who keeps there computer long enough to even worry about fans breaking ? I get the noise being the biggest complaint but everyone seems to be on the hook for fans breaking. Is that really an issue when most people do a full system upgrade after 4 years anyways?
>CONSOOOOOOOM
I have a cougar 120 from 2013 that has been running basically 24/7 since the day it was bought.
Good fans don't break (quickly).
Since Cougar fans are equivalent to a mildly-QC-rejected Noctua (at least the important motor/bearing/shaft/tolerances bits) , I expect a noctua to last +50% what a Cougar does.
are you guys super sensitive to sounds or something?
I like hearing my 'pooter go whirrrrrrr
it's le heccin MAXX and PEAK comf and le SOVL
depends on the type of noise
yeah man that gives me confidence LOL
I don't give a shit about you or your confidence, but whatever product you want. I have 5 Bionix P14 in my case and don't have such an issue so clearly it was a one-off with a specific version of the P12
Using Noctua fans before and their NH D15(overrated) but switch to Artic fans because they're cheaper and better
>Are Noctua fans a meme?
Not really. They used to be the best in almost any fan size but slow/no updates made competitors catch up.
>Are they silent?
Yes. But there are fans that are almost equivalent but have a better, more pleasing sound profile, so you could ramp them higher, being on paper louder, but still more comfortable to run.
That being said for case fans Endorfy Fluctus are better unless directly being behind mesh/struts then you'll have to get spaccers or a thicker rubber gasket.
For radiators there are many that perform better but usually have a bad sound profile (T30) or are just louder. But for price/performance you can get many pressure fans are almost equivalent at some point in the fan curve but you'll have to check many reviews for that.
As exhaust/pull the NF-A12 get beat by their own NF-S12A, and even then you could still use Fluctus and use higher RPM cause they sound nice.
Frick noise, buy 15,000 RPM server fans straight from a NEDEC supplier.
>NEDEC
NIDEC. I am moron.
They're good but cheaper fans are just as good except they don't come with the extra cables and other conveniences. I bought a bunch of arctic b-stock fans in bulk.
>silent
Nothing with a moving part is going to be silent. Noctua fans are very quiet, though. And if you run them at low RPM, they will be close to your ambient noise level.
But if run the fans in a PC case suspended in a vacuum the sound won't bother you.
What he said. The best thing you can do is make the fans as large as possible for much more pleasant frequencies. Not to mention they don't need to spin as fast to move a certain amount of air. I wouldn't go back to fans smaller than 180mm, personally.
i like them
why the bottom fan
Are you a server, Anon?
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>Really think about that
Give me some time
Who cares, just buy whatever has good reputation. Fans last for 5-10 years so it's not like you'll be making big win saving a few bucks on aliexpress brands anyways.
>100+ replies
>it's all noctua shills
daily noctua shilling thread like fricking clockwork every time one of these threads pops up. noctuagays are absolutely delusional. if you care THIS much about fan noise; you are autistic. you are genuinely autistic. objectively autistic. you are an autist. cope or join the rope. this really is just another case of someone who has such a huge ego that they could never admit that they made a bad purchase so they have to create these reddit-esque circlejerks for validation.
>hurr durr no u! ur poorgay durrrrrrr
correction, YOU are the poorgays. poorgays tend to buy things they can't really afford. fact. if you weren't poor and actually cared this much about fricking fan noise lmao, you would be able to afford a passive cooling system which costs more than anything noctua has put out.
>trying this hard
You could've just let this thread die, but you didn't. You're a Black person.
>a passive cooling system which costs more than anything noctua has put out
lmao homosexual i just took all the fans out for $0
i run my noctua intake fans at full speed
i like that they're reliable
The Linus screwdriver thing was pretty cringe
I set my 6 Noctuas to just run at 50% speed and it’s extremely quiet and temps are low. I think Light Wings are good too. If you’re poor though just get cheap fans and wear headphones it’s not the end of the world.
brown yuroshit soi fans. Pass
PCs without moving parts weren't exactly an option back in the day
the older computers really was a comfy sound. it never was annoying.
I have a gigantic Noctua to cool all my network gear. It's very quiet and very cool.
Noctua is a an investment. Buy a cooler, use it for the next 30-infinity years they send you new kits to mount it to your CPU.
But its also fine to buy a budget alternative that performs similarly, just without the life-long support.
Yes, the fans are silent at normal usage, but in my fan curves I dont have any hesitation to turn them up to 100%. At 100% they are not loud at all but more importantly they have a very gentle "Woosh" sound that will disturb almost no one, in fact its is quit pleasant.
My home server's AMD stock cooler makes less noise than the hard drives. When I built it I bought a Noctua but it's still unpacked.
Random pic for your entertainement.
>it's still unpacked
It's still packed, you mean.
"lifetime warranty" 100% depends on how honorable the company is. I had a "lifetime warranty.
When it comes to my samsung SSD, the piece of shit broke randomly out of nowhere, samsung support told me off and directed me to some other PoS company that didnt even have a contact. Good example of how their promise is worthless.
When it comes to noctua, I bought a used PC in 2013 it had a noctua cooler, sent a picture of it to them in 2017 and they sent me a mounting kit for free.
Same token, I obtained a used Samsung external drive with no receipt and was able to have them send me a new one.
Overpriced but they last a very long time.
I've bought many other brands but their bearings always start rattling after a number of years.
None of my Noctua fans have ever failed.
Probably still cheaper to replace cheap fans every 3-5 years but I find that too much hassle.