Are there any documents I can read from the enigma code breaker that prove the Shoah?
Are there any documents I can read from the enigma code breaker that prove the Shoah?
Are there any documents I can read from the enigma code breaker that prove the Shoah?
https://www.holocausthistoricalsociety.org.uk/contents/aktionreinhardt/aktionreinhardtdecodes.html
I just looked at this one. Im a little confused sorry. I didnt read anything about people getting killing or gassed or something. And this is before the enigma code break from Turing? Theres got to be hundreds of documents from that time onward right? We listened to those Germans for ages and ages during the holocaust gassings.
The enigma codes were for military use and were for communicating military strategy. They weren't used for communicating the eradication of israelites.
The death camps didn't have their own enigma machines.
Are you aware of a man named Rudolf Höss? He was the commandant of the Auschwitz concentration camp. He sent secret SS codes to Berlin everyday from the camps reporting what he was doing.
Yeknow how we know what he reported? Caus we cracked the enigma code.
Rudolf gave four statistics everyday.
>1. the number of prisoners that arrived in the last 24 hours ending at midnight
>2. the number of prisoners (or slave laborers of you'd prefer) who left in the last 24 hours ending at midnight
>3. the number of prisoners who were on hand at midnight, the total in the camp at Auschwitz
>4. losses
Now guess what those losses were according to the daily decoded messages...
Ok lets have a look for some key words here
yep okay just as I said earlier. good so far...
wow. interesting figures here. seems to be.... less than the usual we get from accounts later? I was expect 50,000 a day gassed or something. weird.
hold on a minute. silence? interesting.
>Oh but we knew after the war what it was caus soviets told us and we said so
gotcha
now lets look for "gas"
now lets get this straight.
the SS has a top secret uncrackable code messaging system to report all the details in safety but they choose to neglect any reports on gassings, the electric swimming pools and the roller coasters of death caus its not safe enough to share the info?
Where do they use the top secret uncrackable code messaging system to report all the details in safety about the casualties they're inflicting in Stalingrad?
Look im sorry. I dont know anything about the battle in Stalingrad. I just wanted to know more about what Ultra knew about the Shoah for years during the war. Maybe they knew other things too?
> I just wanted to know more about what Ultra knew about the Shoah for years during the war
>Immediately brings up roller coasters and electric floors
You are transparent.
your right. lets get to bottom of the gas chambers first. still got nothing for that in Ultra sadly. we'll get to the other claims later.
What other claims dumb frick?
Crematoriums perhaps? How many were they cremating a day? 50 to 60 thousand is the claim right? maybe its alot less im not sure. Im a bit of a dumb frick about the subject tbh. Its just strange not having the reports about all the fuel they must have been using every day to burn those cadavers.
>Im a bit of a dumb frick about the subject tbh
Yeah, we can tell.
Ausschwitz produced synthetic fuel
http://www.wollheim-memorial.de/de/was_sollte_die_ig_auschwitz_produzieren
ok thats actually interesting. thats my next rabbit hole.
I'll read that and watch some vids on it thank you
Why would they use encrypted ENIGMA messages to talk about fuel consumption dumb frick?
Cause it would have been ALOT of fuel in all estimates right? all that coke for that crematorium to burn all those bodies all day long would have been a massive undertaking. Not to mention the expense of all that fuel during a wartime shortage. I dont know much about this synthetic fuel stuff tho. I still need to look into it.
And? Why would they be discussing fuel, no matter the quantity, via encrypted enigma messages?
Well if i was one of them Brits reading there messages I probably would have been all suspect about all the fuel theyve been requiring lately just on open channels. If i ran a death camp and needed lots and lots of fuel to burn a shit ton of bodies, yeah, i would encrypt my messages too!
Now you have to demonstrate they were talking about fuel consumption over open channels.
thats true. that will be rabbit hole after the synthetic fuel rabbit hole lol
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Brennstoffbedarf
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In einer Schätzung der Zentralbauleitung vom 17. März 1943 wird der voraussichtliche Koksverbrauch des Krematoriums genannt.[24] Er wird für eine 12-Stunden-Schicht mit je 2.800 Kilogramm für die Krematorien II und III angegeben. Für die Krematorien IV und V werden für 12 Stunden je 1.120 Kilogramm angegeben.[25]
Des Weiteren wurde die zur Verbrennung eingeblasene Luft mit einem sogenannten Rekuperator (einem Wärmetauscher) durch die heißen Abgase erwärmt und damit die Abgaswärme rückgewonnen. Bei der Leichenverbrennung wird Energie frei. In der Topf-Bedienungsanleitung ist angegeben, dass nach jeder Kremierung die Temperatur im Ofen steigt. Der Ofen musste deshalb ab 1100 °C (1000 °C beim Dreimuffelofen) durch Einblasen von Luft gekühlt werden.[26]
Die bei der Leichenverbrennung freiwerdende Wärme kann man mit der freiwerdenden Wärme bei der Verbrennung von pathologischem Abfall vergleichen. Dieser Abfall wird als sogenannter „Typ IV“-Abfall klassifiziert und entsteht zum Beispiel in Schlachthöfen oder bei der Tierpräparation. Es handelt sich dabei um Leichenteile und Schlachtabfälle mit einem maximalen Wassergehalt von 85 Prozent und maximal 5 Prozent unverbrennbaren Restsubstanzen. Für diesen Abfall gibt das „Incineration Institute of America“ einen Heizwert von 2300 Kilojoule pro Kilogramm an (1000 BTU/pound).[27] Der Hersteller Simonds gibt für seinen Verbrennungsofen für pathologische Abfälle denselben Heizwert an. Die Konstruktion basiert auf exzessivem Einblasen von Luft und ähnelt damit den in Auschwitz installierten Topf-Krematorien. Das Beschickungsintervall wird von Simonds mit 15 Minuten angegeben.[28]
Während des Dauerbetriebes wird also ein Großteil der benötigten Energie aus der Leichenverbrennung selbst bezogen. Dies erklärt den geringen Brennstoffbedarf im Dauerbetrieb.
This in the documents I posted.
>the SS has a top secret uncrackable code messaging system to report all the details in safety
No
>but they choose to neglect any reports on gassings, the electric swimming pools and the roller coasters of death caus its not safe enough to share the info?
Yes.
>Yes
why?
Rudolf believed he was sending messages only between himself and the chief of the SS. He had no clue of the Brits interception. He did this for years. He didnt say anything at all about the goings on of the Final Solution? Why have all the details about it all right there except the wild baseless account of gas chambers? He reported the daily losses already for heavens sake.
You can read his own words on that here
http://www.zeno.org/Geschichte/M/Der+Nürnberger+Prozeß/Hauptverhandlungen/Einhundertachter+Tag.+Montag,+15.+April+1946/Vormittagssitzung
He was prohibited from recording the data only Eichmann was to record it
DR. KAUFFMANN: Ist es richtig, daß Sie selbst keine genauen Aufzeichnungen über die Zahl dieser Opfer haben, weil Ihnen diese Aufzeichnungen verboten waren?
HÖSS: Das ist so richtig.
DR. KAUFFMANN: Ist es weiter richtig, daß ausschließlich ein Mann namens Eichmann hierüber Aufzeichnungen hatte; der Mann, der mit der Organisation und der Sammlung der Menschen beauftragt worden war?
nice trial
This wasn't the capture this was the 108. day of court.
I see. So this is his before torture confession before his after torture confession?
Höß only claimed the first interrogation protocol was signed under torture. Not the trial. The proecutor was seeking the death penalty. There was no incentive for him to falsely incriminate himself at the hearing.
In the same memoir he also admits to the mass murder of israelites through gas in Ausschwitz. Are the memoirs a document to be trusted or only the passages which suit your narrative?
okay. Im reading up on that now. Im not close to done but seems like he made a claim, changing it a few times. Sometimes under duress.
>they gave him booze and hit him
Ach nein! It's ein anderer Blomberg!
No he always maintained his confession of murdering millions of israelites. Only his admitted estimate changed. Though seemingly always sticking with his 2,5 million estimate. Not under duress when writing his autobiography.
I see. doesnt he say the 2.5 mill is far too high later in that pic though? Auschwitz has its limits yeknow?
Zero idea what argument you're trying to make here. I mean I understand but surely you can't be this moronic.
Please list the ULTRA decrypts that say 2 million Soviet soldiers were killed by the Germans at Stalingrad and that 250,000 Germans died in the Desden """"firebombing""""".
Yes.
https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/about/cryptologic-heritage/historical-figures-publications/publications/wwii/eavesdropping.pdf
https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-quarterly/sigint_and_the_holocaust.pdf
belief in the holocaust is an article of religious faith that you must profess openly or be excommunicated from the society which israelites control this very day. Even if everyone knows it never happened, you still have to play along like it did.
anyone saying otherwise is a dishonest shithead.
When confronted with irregutable proof of the holocaust the denier will dismiss even the possibility of critical examination of his claims and instead declare everybody already agrees with him but willfully rejects the millions of dollars a credible holocaust denial book could make
You sound exactly like a religious person defending their God. It is disturbing. Also, it is illegal to question the Holocaust, just like some fricked up theocracy which criminalizes blasphemy.
This is the part where I ask you to say where its illegal to question the holocaust, you dance around for a bit, everyone can see you're a dishonest dumb frick and the thread hits the bump limit and you do the same in the next one.
you're the only one being dishonest here.
>holocaust denial
And the dancing begins.
No I don't. I have no dog in this fight. Your claim is idiotic and it is purposefully so because you know you are in the wrong but you don't have the dignity to admit it. Unlike Höß lol.
>Your claim is idiotic
My claim, is this
and it is true.
It's not a religion nor is it a metter of faith. There is overwhelming undeniable proof of the Holocaust some of which you've been spoonfeed in this thread. You cannot engage with it because you know you're wrong.
>Hess was tortured!!!!
>Look up this "torture"
>They roughed him up a bit
Random drunk paddys stumbling about in the street got worse treatment by the Brooklyn police at the same time period.