Literature can elevante the mind and the soul, but what about videogames? Are they on the same intellectual plane as literature?
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Are videogames as a hobby as worthwhile as literature?
No.
t. oppressed gamer playing Ubisoft goyslop at 4am.
That depends. Games like Factorio, Dyson Sphere Program, TIS-100, Shenzhen I/O, Rain World, Tactics Ogre, Dwarf Fortress, Songs of Syx, Children of a Dead Earth, Lobotomy Corporation, Baba is You, Ghost Trick, Outer Wilds, Valkyria Chronicles are all art.
>Valkyria Chronicles
I love VC, but it's a generic anime story with all the classic tropes (and I'm not even talking about VC 2). The gameplay is great.
You named a bunch of autism simulators and a few outliers. Also no 90s point and clicks. Those were, quite literally, pure art.
i would say literally if you only played classics like
said, it would be good. but most people don't do that. admit it, anon, you play garbage like Counter-strike and the Finals because either
>you're bored
>you're friends play it
>you need something to fill up time
>you have little imagination/your imagination muscles are atrophied
and i would just add,
>Final Fantasy VII
>Fire Emblem
>Kingdom Hearts
https://www.rogerebert.com/roger-ebert/video-games-can-never-be-art
>No planescape: torment, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, Fallout 2
They're a waste of time for me. The peak of goyslop.
Frick no.
Yes, but obviously not all games. Just as with books.
The extent to which it can do it is debatable, but I believe it has the capability to be the richest mode of storytelling, given its inherent borrowing from various media. Play NieR.
Bye.
>Play NieR
Don't listen to this normie. Play Theresia: Dear Emile.
I wouldn't consider video games to be a source of good humanist nourishment but they're great cognitive exercise. If you're playing them for more than an hour a day you're fricking up though.
I agree with this, they're a good way to keep your brain sharp, especially if you play puzzle and strategy games. Fighting games are also good to develop quick thinking skills and discipline.
>If you're playing them for more than an hour a day you're fricking up though.
There's tons of games where you can't even get into the groove of them without a minimum of a couple hours of playtime though. Maybe if you're playing some phone game, or an arcade game, or an old 8-bit game, this applies, but stuff like open-world sandbox RPGs and survival crafting games or 4X strategy games? You're fricking up if you play those games and arbitrarily limit yourself to one hour of playtime at a time.
3 hours should be the limit.
There should be no limit besides ones imposed by urgent life matters.
I don't like those genres for that very same reason. Maybe multiplayer 4X but that's for thinking turns throughout the day while you do other things.
What do you play?
Racing, rhythm, shooters, strategy and roguelikes.
This is a question about games, not literature. There is a board for video games.
IQfy is too dumb for me.
Well they play video games just like you
So in your opinion videogames are for dumb people and not as worthwhile as literature? Care to pursue that argument?
>IQfy
>play video games
I'm not even gonna joke about it, they don't.
they are good for killing time
No, just consuming something passively isn't worthwhile in itself.
read audiobooks or tts whilst playing video games. just make sure its a game that youre not new to that doesnt require a lot of concentration or reading
>Are they on the same intellectual plane as literature?
No, but I do think there's massive untapped potential in videogames as tools for education and socialization. There's very little literature on this currently and it's unfortunate. Hundreds of thousands of kids and young adults experience flow while playing videogames every year and no one is bothering to research this phenomenon. Different genres assist players to achieve different flow states and I've yet to find anyone of serious intellectual merit who even understands the differences between videogame genres.
So true, just this year alone I entered into the flow state while playing 2 or 3 games, it's a magical feeling.
give me visual novel recs
already read saya no uta
The Silver Case.
Muv-Luv Alternative if you can handle the crap that's Extra,
if you like murder mysteries there's danganronpa, ace attorney, and zero escape
muramasa
Yes but only if they are good games, like megaman or the original crash trilogy
Which Mega Man are good? I have Legacy Collection 1, X Legacy Collection 1 and Battle Network Collections 1 and 2.
I played the main ones from 1 to 7 and the x ones from 1 to 6, I enjoyed all of them. Couldn't get into the legends games. I've also heard the ZX games are the best but didn't play them.
the vast majority of them, it's consistently very solid. notable shitty exceptions are the latter half of the X games and apparently battle network 4. i'd say the last three classic games are the best personally but 4, 6, and X1 are also really good. zero series is good but hard as balls.