As a more of a humanities guy (I am utterly embarrased deep down to say that), is it normal to see those who exceed at STEM, especially math/physics as savants who should be.put on a pedestal and not i.e. writers, musicians, artists...the creative type which I think although they are cool, can be done by anyone? I am a writer myself and published 2 books by the age of 19, one fiction (novel) and one non-fiction (a bio), and made some decent money/fame through the years but I feel deep down I am not good enough to make an impact on the world like what scientists are doing. Essentially I was just bullshitting ("creative") and collecting information (the bio book).
Many people have patted me on the back when I tell them how insecure I am about my math ability by saying stuff like "but you're a good writer, motivator, your words have impact on the people". I just think that I am literally inferior to you STEM majors out there because I cannot fricking do math.
Any thoughts /adv/? Especially when a pretty girl can do advanced math (ive met some and yes they exist) and I can't. I look nerdy yes hence people expect me to be this technical person, but I am not and it only fuels my inferiority complex
Get out of the house chud
Holy shit OP. Can you give us a synopsis of the books? If you found success in being an author you should be proud of yourself. Like art, there are many in the stem field who study and then BOOM don't find a job (or quit before graduation). OP, any success is impressive and even more impressive since you published books at 19. Be happy, and don't think about the what ifs. You clearly had success in your interests and have proof to show you're not a day dreamer/loser like I currently am.
Sure thing. One is an Anne Tyler-esque novel set in the 1940s about a teenage girl who leaves her house and encounters many challenges along the way, one is basically a bio on the music scene of the 1960s and the impact of such artists (written in my native language). I am also a writer for a blog which gains a decent amount of following in my country (think Wait But Why-style blog).
I am just scratching my head over Math and I feel its just unfair (or rather its just me being utterly competitive) how STEM people can wrap their heads around humanities subjects but not so much the other way around. I can bullshit all I want but at the end of the day, I can't shake off the feeling that my "creativity", or rather my attempts at everything I do are worthless and all the praises I get are just people being nice to me because I am autistic. (Diagnosed with asperger)
There is no gene for math.
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The human brain is nothing like a computer. At all.
Please elaborate on "no gene for math"
nobody is just born good at math. its not like a 5 year old can do calculus or physics. people that are good at math either liked math from a young age or were forced to practice it everyday by their parents when they were growing up.
Yeah there's no gene for height either. And there's no gay gene (remember that?). Article headline level genetics right there, communicating that traits can be polygenic.
I'm so fricking sick of you statistically illiterate fricks condescending your bullshit
Like seriously, I genuinely wonder what kind of mind communicates this sorta bullshit. Like I bet you think you have the esoteric knowledge of how LLMs work, that it's all "just matrix multiplication" behind the scenes and so it's nothing special. It's like watching a chicken run around with it's head cut off.
>that it's all "just matrix multiplication" behind the scenes
That's literally what it is though
I'm a programming code monkey software dev, barely know math (outside of elementary school shit), I try and think I'm ok at writing and genuinely enjoy it. My father is an accountant who struggled with literature and creative writing classes. People are different. A lot of people in STEM don't know shit about mathematics, and a lot of people outside of that also don't know shit about math. If you want to switch studies you can try it out. Self learning has helped me way more than classes.
>I feel its just unfair (or rather its just me being utterly competitive) how STEM people can wrap their heads around humanities subjects but not so much the other way around.
that isn't true, though. cringey STEMlord contempt for humanities is almost stereotypical. they routinely say incredibly stupid things about art, philosophy, history, etc. in condescending ways that show they are just repeating a STEMlord groupthink ideology instead of engaging with the actual texts.
I'm a STEMgay, and while I don't exactly like the humanities (especially certain 'creative' type's tendency to be complete degenerates), it's definitely not something that can be done by anyone.
Monkeys with typewriters are far more likely to reproduce Shakespeare than an infinite number of me.
>one non-fiction (a bio)
Then you've likely contributed more than most paper-pushing autists like me.
>engaging with the actual texts
This is your own pretentious groupthink.
>This is your own pretentious groupthink
no it isn't. I'm happy to talk with anyone who has their own heterodox read of something. never actually doing the reading and thinking you've mastered something from the Wikipedia like STEM people are notorious for is what's unacceptable.
tbh you're probably just a feeler rather than a thinker. i wouldn't say stem students understand humanities as much as the better humanities student, its not too uncommon for them to have that insecurity and its because theyre Thinking dominant and you're insecure because you're Feeling dominant
There is nothing particularly difficult about math and most people can learn it to a very high level regardless of innate ability. It is a discipline where everything makes logical sense and there's very little demand on being inventive unless you're doing very advanced shit.
t. mathematician
multivariable calculus filtered out a lot of people in my class. you don't need to be some high IQ autist but you need to have a healthy, above average intelligence to get through an egineering/physics/math degree
although some very intelligent individuals entrepreneurially create their own very tough job only a very high IQ person could do, that doesn't make sense for normal job. every job is designed to be doable by someone with max 115 IQ. if doesn't make supply and demand sense to make jobs that require one 130 IQ person instead of multiple 115 IQ people. you're too vulnerable to their salary getting astronomical and their position being impossible to fill for a year if they have
>t. economist
Idk anon. I tried math for years and felt like my brain could explode any time. When I constructed my book (bio) it was easy as frick and all I needed to do was to fill in the information and wrote it in a readable manners.
Math is rigorous when you've gone passed the undergraduate.
Personally I find listening to Mozart more enjoyable than reading the most expertly-written code.
If you think scientists are making anything useful to humanity you are mistaken, most of them are doing bullshit studies, I work on STEM and paint as a hobby, and consider both things equally important to me, I am who I am because of the books I read and the art that hss influeced me (movies, series, paintings even) way more than from the classes I took in uni, tech can't change your reason for living.
the humanities are cool and life would be drab without them, its just that they attract a lot of weirdos
STEM work is neccessary to sustain modern society
Art and alike are adds value to life experience of many people, even if some don't give a crap about it. Creative people have always been valued by all kinds of society for the immaterial value they provide. If people like you didn't exist at all, life would be a lot more shallow and joyless
something i have learned is smart people are good at everything, there is no such thing as a specific "type" of intelligence.