>be tech consumers
>beg tech companies to stop making laptops excessively thin, too power hungry, stop adding useless gimmicks like 2 screens, detachable keyboards, touchscreens etc.
>just make them fat and last forever
>be apple
>be the only company to do precisely that
How is IQfy is still mad at them?
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>Advertising a laptop for free
>notch
They just HAD to frick it up somehow. They're like genies.
Apple always has to frick something up with their laptops. Without fail
Back in the early 2000s it was the fricking hinges breaking, then when they switched to intel they were fricking melting because jobs hated fans (same thing that fricked up the OG 128k mac), and then it was the various shiterations of keyboards, the fricking touchbar, and now the notch.
As far as frick ups go, the notch is the least bad.
>touchbar
kek thanks for reminding me
Going back further, WallStreet and other PowerBooks had issues where the thermals inside would literally disconnect the monitor from the motherboard, and then reconnect when it cooled
The only one that didn't really have massive problems was the toilet seat iBook, and well, it looked like a fricking toilet seat. That said, it basically "invented" the way laptop wireless works now, by hiding the antenna loop in the display bezel. Previous shit was always some bullshit PCMCIA card with an antenna sticking out
The 2008-2012 Macbook Pros were basically perfect. Built like a tank, upgradable RAM and HDD, easily replaceable batteries (last model before they started gluing them in).
All the ports you could ever want including USB A, Ethernet, and Thunderbolt on the later models.
The last good computer Apple ever built.
>Built like a tank
yeah try picking it up by the screen, something's breaking for sure
Apple was never good.
I use an old retina MacBook and it's got awful after images, after something's been on the screen for a minute it's burnt in.
u can just turn that shit off
No you can't. You can lower the resolution to be 16:10 and go below the notch, but then you've got this annoying glowing black bar because the screen is still on there.
glowing? as in ips glow? frick me i thought these were OLED screens already. why the frick does the notch even need to be so wide
>You can lower the resolution to be 16:10
so like it was when macbooks were "based"?
>annoying glowing black bar because the screen is still on there.
OLED doesn't have this problem
>turn the notch off
it's hilarious.
a mistake of such magnitude, and nobody on the inside was pushing back. the coping of their fans was even better, like brainwashed monkeys they said it didn't really matter.
a shape intruding on the visual, most important, interface of a computer. frickin hell...
The saddest part is that they didn't even manage to add faceID into that gigantic notch when windows laptops have had IR login for close to a decade now
There's literally nothing there but a camera. It could have been the size of the droplet cutouts on some Android phones, but nooo, its gotta look like a big fricking pizza hut roof
Why wouldn't you want to have as much of the surface covered in pixels as possible? Suck on a shotgun.
>>just make them fat and last forever
>battery is glued in
kek, kys op
What Isopropyl alcohol is? Did vaxx make you that dumb?
The ESL tries to spread antivaxx shit on IQfy. Go leave
>she has to use IPA to remove her laptop battery
you're still making yourself look like a fool.
>new tripgay
go away nobody fricking asked homosexual
mac laptops are thinner than ever on average, theyre just square instead of having razor edges but they've literally only gotten smaller and more compact
their 15inch laptops are literally the size of last decades 13"
>new tripgay
get used to it. maid gay came in and demonstrated that this board is hungry for moronic schizo attention-prostitute homosexuals to come in and set-up shop trying to become e-celebs and build followings.
you all ate it up without resistance and now the admins are ripping out any mechanisms that help us detect samegays, to help all the tripgay attention-prostitutes keep flooding in.
Don't forget
>soldered memory
>soldered cpu
>soldered storage
>not easy to repair
>>be the only company to do precisely that
Now that's just a lie.
Why would you just lie on the Internet?
>>be the only company to do precisely that
:/ ??
They're selling laptops that are already obsolete (8gb ram) at luxury prices
Max os is so efficient 8gb of ram is the equivalent to 16 on most Windows and Linux systems lol
this but unironically
people keep saying this without giving any evidence
Superiority in synthetic and real benchmarking shows that.
okay, post them
These are easily googleable benchmarks anon
Not spoofeeding you
you made the claim you provide the evidence
all real bench marks have proven this is bullshit but itoddlers don't look at or understand even the most basic tweenager gayming benchmarks let alone how an operating system works and to what extent it can slow down or speed up software.
>nooo the built in bespoke hardware accelerators dont count! Even though they accelerate most of the common workloads people will use the laptops for its cheating! Only raster and compiling the linux kernal are real benchmarks wahhhhh *shits pants*
>bespoke hardware
>made for a particular customer or user.
you are a fricking moron. Nothing about crapple is bespoke, if I order a PC from LTT custom built to my exact desires with an autistic case, that is bespoke. what you moronic toddlers fail to understand is that ishitters have sold you the idea of bespoke and specialness when really all they have done is sell you overpriced slop with some silver paint.
>invoking some random e-celeb for no reason
literal brain rot
>invoke some random eceleb who builds random insane cost cases for other ecelebs when talking about "bespoke" hardware
your words not mine you filthy israelite wannabe shabbos goy.
Idk about windows but mac os and linux have ram compression. Trades a tiny bit of cpu power to effectively double your ram.
Can I replace the battery? Where's my ethernet port?
what's an ethernet port?
this sort of shit drove me up the fricking wall when I was trying to find out how to tether my phones internet to my work laptop. Applegays consensus is "lol why would you want to do that??"
LOL bro why do you need anything apple doesn't want?
lol I can do that with my iPhone
Android: 0
iOS: over 9000
Well the problem is that you're on reddit..
Applel knows having 8GB isn't enough. All the Applel fanboys who aren't completely illiterate know having 8GB isn't enough. The only reason they all pretend 8GB is enough is so it'll look like buying the 16GB model is a decision and should be paid at a luxury price, rather than literal extortion that forces imbeciles to buy additional memory at 2010 prices.
Just checked their store page, only 2 models out of 10 still have 8GB.
Looks like they're phasing it out
No, the purpose of the 8GB models is to make their laptops appear as same price as competitors on comparison websites, then once you are interested in it you'll choose the 16GB version and pay a lot more.
This is the same reason why iPads recently still had ridiculously minuscule 32GB storage, and same reason why they don't have a microsd slot, so you once you are interested you end up paying a huge extra to have a 128GB version instead.
Speak for yourself homosexual.
I don't want my laptops to be thin and with compromised repairing, upgrading and I/O options.
>just make them fat and last forever
>last forever
that's not a thinkpad
OP posted a Pro, your pic is about the fanless Air.
8gb is shit but no one serious should be buying those. I bought 36gb personally and it runs great.
Best laptop I've ever owned, no question.
>inb4 muh gayming
Grow up nerd
Battery - not replaceable
RAM - not upgradeable
Storage - not replaceable
Keyboard - not repairable
Screen - fragile AF
Apple is the worst unfixable piece of shit
i have a 2015 pro and it's good, except it runs hot as balls. the put an i7 and an amd gpu in there what we're they thinking
The lack of IO on modern laptops is appalling and apple are the main ones to blame for this cancerous trend. Just 3 usb-cs on a """professional""" machine is NOT acceptable. It's completely absurd that if you want decent IO these days you have to go with a gaymer laptop which usually have shit tier build quality.
I could barely find a decent laptop with 3 USB-As, USB-C and an eth port.
>and an eth port
There's your problem. Why the frick would you need this on a laptop? If you only need a port every once in a blue moon, an adapter is the way to go. USB A isn't one of those ports, despite Apple's insistence, but Ethernet definitely is.
Maybe because I need gigabit speeds when connected to my home network? And no, I'm not buying a fricking dongle.
Stop trying to tell others what they need or don't need. It's time to grow up and realize different people have different use cases for their tech.
It's a laptop.
Just get a thunderbolt dock if it bothers you so much.
>It's a laptop.
Exactly. I shouldn't need any external hardware to use it.
With a thunderbolt dock, you would only need to connect a single cable and have everything work just fine, and Thunderbolt 4 has more than enough bandwidth for your needs.
You may be new here. There’s literally no point in responding to the seethe. They aren’t looking for solutions, but instead are looking to explain why they don’t like Apple.
No one was looking for solutions in the first place. Apple gays simply love shoving their non-solutions in your face completely unwarranted.
Sour grapes.
>Maybe because I need gigabit speeds when connected to my home network?
Just curious, why do you need that level of internet speed? Clearly you aren't going to play competitive vidya on a macbook (or any vidya at all). Is it job-related? What kind of job requires you to download-upload such gigantic amounts of data in record time on a home laptop?
Genuinely asking.
Sometimes I would need to transfer very large files over my home network and I would rather do it faster than slower.
Sometimes the wifi might frick up and I'd rather have a backup option.
Sometimes I would need to have a stable wired connection for whatever reason. There are many scenarios.
I simply prefer my tech to be versatile and give me more power to do shit than take it away from me.
>Sometimes the wifi might frick up
This 100% stopped happening to me like a decade ago, I assumed modern routers weren't as vulnerable in terms of frickups but maybe I'm just lucky.
Regarding speed itself, I regularly send 30+gb freshly rendered high bitrate videos to my other PCs and my company's FTP from my macbook.
I'm currently connected through wifi and I'm struggling to picture a scenario where I'd actually need more than what I'm getting in terms of speed.
I mean I only gain like 50-100 extra mbps (at the very best) from my eth-connected desktop and the difference is fairly negligible when it comes to upload/download times
Yeah, why would anyone need more than 120MB/s for sending 30+ GB video files... No-one needs more than 1Gb ethernet, 10Gb ethernet is just silly!
this but unironically, if you really need the 10gbps ethernet so bad you can buy a dongle or use a proper desktop workstation. 99% of laptop users never send 30gb files back and forth multiple times a day
>I'm struggling to picture a scenario where I'd actually need more than what I'm getting in terms of speed
Please understand there is more to "download speed" when comparing network quality between wifi and ethernet. Even partially saturating a wifi connection can incur higher packet latency, and worse, packet loss.
I understand some modern routers have QoS rules you can configure, but that would still require you to configure this yourself (and most people don't touch them).
>Just curious, why do you need that level of internet speed?
Because he is some sweaty neet that still has a wirless n router because wireless bad and real men use cables
>real men use cables
cable > wireless
>$2000 to get the same memory as the GF63 Thin i bought 2 years ago at walmart for $389
>pushing 8gb in a premium option 15 years after it was considered standard
The GF63 Thin only uses DDR4
I want to try an ARM Macbook, but I genuinely don't have a reason to get one yet because my current 2014 MBP still works like a charm after 10 years and at most it only needs a new battery.
haha no ethernet port
how are you posting from 1998
no VGA either, what a shit laptop
>detachable keyboards
Do you have any idea how much I want a powerful windows laptop that has no keyboard?
Laptop keyboards are always shit, I want to bring my own bluetooth keyboard and not have to carry around that excess weight.
That's why I use a samsung ultra tablet with mouse + keyboard when I'm on the go
Does basically whatever I need that isn't programming
I found the m3 max for $3100 open box at Best Buy. It’s time to consooooom
Apple literally won the laptop war, anyone with an IQ above 110 will go for a Macbook.
zenbooks with linux are honestly superior:
- better display (no notch, minimum bezels regardless, OLED with touchscreen if you want a touchscreen, 3.5k res at minimum, 90hz max with DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR YOUR REFRESH RATE, ofc 16:10)
-12 hours of battery life with 2024 generation
-good specs that don't break the bank (e.g. 16 cores, 512GB NVME, 16GB RAM with Arc GPU for £1000)
unified memory is moronic, it does not make anything more efficient, if anything it means your gpu has 1-6gb of ram and your cpu has 2-7gb of ram at a minimum.
if anything it means you need 24 or 32 gigs instead of 16 (not really unless you need gpu power)
>12 hours of battery life with 2024 generation
>with linux
doubt.jpg.webp
x86 laptops slurp battery like OP's mom slurps semen, even on supposedly optimized devices running Windows with updated drivers and shit, and Linux is known for having dogshit battery performance in part because it has worse drivers compared to winlol.
Modern PC laptops eat shit from how absolutely bloated and moronic windows has become. My 12700H/3050 lenovo yoga runs like a fricking toaster with just a webbrowser open in windows, youtube even stutters sometimes. On arch it's fanless unless I'm crunching data or playing games, the difference in battery life is insane as well.
>OS developed by the lowest paid pajeets you can procure
>lead by a pajeet
>OS developed by white and asian ultra autists as a passion project in their free time
>lead by a Finnish trash talker
Linux is slowly taking over, browns are shitting in microsofts moat. Valve and Google are already going all in.
Let me know when Linux FULLY takes over the space so I don't have to shill to microshit. Half of what I want to use does not work on Linux unfortunately.
Ok larper, as someone that actually uses Linux on a laptop, it's always 15% worse on Linux compared to Windows. Literally nobody but you thinks Linux has better battery life.
>notch
>no ethernet
nice try Apple shill.
IQfy will seethe and cry but Apple is the best hardware manufacturer around
>>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flights
kek, source? genuinely curious.
>kek, source? genuinely curious.
It came to him in a dream
https://www.avsax.com/news/here-s-the-full-list-of-airlines-that-have-now-banned-the-macbook-pro
get a toilet curryBlack person
You post Linus laughing except he uses a Macbook nowadays
Linus is on a comfortable life-long stipend. He'll never need to worry about affording his own machines, ever. Therefore repairing is largely irrelevant - and as a total autist, he'll be taking incredibly good care of said device.
I'd love a macbook, honestly. If only they weren't moronic pricing. I wouldn't mind buying an expensive one - if an expensive one made SENSE
>spends all day on IQfy
>still does not have a skill that makes him moronic amounts of money
I don't spend all day on IQfy, but I don't have a skill either. I work in retail.
Currently studying - goal is 2-3 hours a day - to try to get myself out of this hellhole though.
>NPC the thread
Yes, but not in the way you think.
>iFixit approved and piss easy to repair
>not locked down trash like an Apple product
Will you be getting the new T14 Gen 5, anon?
>buying anything Lenovo
>manufacturer listens to the consumers and makes a better product
>"why would you buy it?"
Enjoy the constant decline of products then.
Lenovo is the nu-Xiaomi of laptops. Plastic chink shit made using leftover parts from the production of better devices, loaded with CCP spyware at the BIOS level, running an unoptimized OS with even more bloat on top, and all for the price of an actually good device from a better company.
>actually good device from a better company.
Do you mean applel or something else?
HP Elitebook/zBook and Dell Latitude/Precision
Wat a troll
My Dell Latitude is quite nice as far as laptops go, actually.
>soldered ram and ssd with shit endurance
>keyboard without any travel
>glossy screen
no thanks
>applel just did it goyim
>meanwhile it still has no ports
>only supports ape os
>everything is either soldered in or glued
>want 8 more gigs? Pay up 500€
>want more than 256gb? Pay up another 500€
They're literally the definition of everything wrong in the world.
32 gigs should be minimum in such priced laptops. Paying 200$ to upgrade from 8 to 16 costs like 6x more than for upgradable laptops.
If those storage prices weren't such ridiculous fricking bullshit, I would actually buy one of these and throw Asahi on it.
But there ain't no fricking way I'm paying that much money for storage. I'm hoping another global pandemic leads to a shortage of AIDs medication so Apple can get a new CEO that isn't such a fricking greedy ghoul.
I hate my CEO. I want Jobs back.
this laptop doesn't fit my needs but rather than buy one that does i will complain on IQfy instead
This laptop fills my needs but I'm too poor to afford one ;_;
Only Apple can do this cause it’s custom hardware and software
On battery the best laptop and the m3 max MacBook Pro is faster than the full spec Intel Mac Pro
There’s good desktop replacement windows laptops but don’t expect anything great on battery
i'm happy with my Thinkpad p53
My Yoga X1 would be perfect if not for the horrible <3hr battery life.
P53 is tempting. Good hardware specs, but how's the build quality?
>be apple
>do some homosexualry and remove features
>tech bros gasp and say its going to financially kill them
>rest of the world copies apple 6-9 months later
>tech bros accept their fate and admit its not that bad
>rinse and repeat the last decade
deal with it nerds, we're all living in a apple universe and I think nothing short of china producing some next level thing is going to change it
>tech bros
It's "technology brothers" chud
I listened to some dumb frick on YouTube a few years ago who said "always buy the base Apple laptop" when spruiking the m1 air, he said it would be more than enough ram because reasons. 8gb is not enough to run outlook, excel and PowerPoint at the same time. Frick YouTube
>last forever
no they don't
I have an m1 14" macbook pro from work and it's probably the best laptop I've had.
Performance is good enough, cooling seems to be great (I almost never notice it getting warm or fans spinning). Screen, keyboard and trackpad are all good. Ports are just about adequate. Portable, good battery life, feels sturdy.
I'm not that attached to macos but the whole balance of features is good, and I don't encounter any notable pain points. I wouldn't spend my own money on one though, especially because of the lack of upgradeability
stop eating shit for breakfast and you might find out why
>just pay $3000 for a laptop bro
No