Why is this so highly regarded around here? The premise sounds like a generic "wild west was le bad, indians are le poor victims." What makes this special? (I'm asking genuinely)
Blood Meridian
Why is this so highly regarded around here? The premise sounds like a generic "wild west was le bad, indians are le poor victims." What makes this special? (I'm asking genuinely)
Read the book moron.
It exists to root out monstrocities masked as human beings who would do everything judge did and worse, i presume you are one of them
I don't care what you presume, incel. Tell me why this book is worth my time.
I'm not sure why you'd think this is bait. I'm a very avid and experienced reader of literature (today is the first time I heard of Cornac Mccarthy). So, as a veteran, I seek to expand my horizon and look for advice on how to do so.
The prose ?
It is barely English, dude. And the "no grammar ever" shit is not a style, it's moronic
yeah that's the point idiot. The protagonist is a barely educated moron, and the book inhabits that headspace with the intent to draw you in.
You are all just utterly married to this book and will make up anything to defend it. Honestly is it just a meme? People don't actually like this shit around here, it's just fun to pretend to? That must be it.
You're just moronic.
> They rode on
There you go, there's your 'kino.' Am I your favorite author now?
They spat
So what are you reading now ?
Fiction specifically ?
> So what are you reading now ?
The Aeneid
Go back to college
Such an npc pick.
>muh canon because dead men said so
Go back to it you, low IQ moron hypocrite.
>dead men
Why do people think this is some kind of meaningful argument? Almost every great artist who ever existed in human history is a dead man. Why would that devalue their art or their words?
Imagine being this much of a butthurt child that you dislike a book without even reading it in the first place. So moronic.
Imagine liking a book because the masses in IQfy demanded you like it and you want to fit in so bad that you'll do the literary equivalent of eating literal shit and forcing your face into looking like you're experiencing pleasure when every fiber of your being wants to spit it out
Imagine being this much of a butthurt troony that you assume that everybody who likes the book is because some forum told them so and accuse them of eating shit when their own lives are so sad that they get assblasted over people liking a book that they have never read beyond the quotes certain people occasionally post.
TL;DR You are an embarrassment, and you desperately need to stay out of Cormac threads because you are clearly mentally ill to be this mad over something you don't supposedly care enough to familiarize yourself with.
It's not a hard book my dude
It's meant to set a mood
Also, it's not for every taste
You can find yourself on a paved road with
proper street lights and signage, relatively smooth and that road serves its purpose
well. A dirt road on the out skirts of town void
of all signage, shouldn't be compared to the paved road. The dirt road, also,
serves its purpose well : the destination is different, the purpose of the destination is different, the experience is different, the skill of
the driver will be challenged on the dirt road. The dirt road experience may be more memorable. If reader's sole purpose is the destination then the smooth road is the way to go. If the reader wants to enjoy the destination as well as the path then the dirt road is the way to go.
The driver also has the option to put the vehicle in reverse and forget the dirt road all
together, unironically.
I can answer this but most people here who hate Cormac are clinically moronic. It's like teaching colors to an animal. They simply don't have the capacity to understand it.
you sound like one
>The premise sounds like a generic "wild west was le bad, indians are le poor victims."
The natives are fricked up as well. Read before emitting an opinion.
It's pretty widely misrepresented by media outlets then I'd say.
I'm happy to hear I misread the premise. What's the actual one?
>What's the actual one?
Despite there being evil in the world, God exists. If he didn't, things would be worse.
considering how badly you misread the premise I doubt you'll get much from the actual book
The book doesn’t really depict the Indians as merely victims.
Some of the worst shit imaginable in BM is commited by the Natives. Mexicans are depicted as savage stupid shits as well. The point of the book is that there’s innate evil and violence in man’s heart, that women are prostitutes, the prose is exquisite, and OP is a homosexual.
>he point of the book is that there’s innate evil and violence in man’s heart, that women are prostitutes, the prose is exquisite, and OP is a homosexual.
This.
It reads like a movie script in a lot of ways, and redditors love movies to death, so of course it's going to be like flies onto shit.
I'd honestly say a lot of books from around the 1980's onwards feel like they were written just to be made easily and more effortlessly into a movie. I don't know if people even notice it, but it always bothers the shit out of me.
Cinema basically just killed literature, and there isn't much left.
Illiterate moron. Stick to movies, literature isn't for you.
You're not wrong about that trend in literature. It was about that time that the publishing houses started merging into larger centralized titans. This resulted in a greater focus on the profitability of each published title rather than profitability on the institutional level. Because of this, you see a regression towards a mean instead of a variety of stories, perspectives, and styles.
You haven't said a fricking thing, go frick yourself and your shitty pseud opinions
the indians were savage and brutal, but they were also victims. they can be both. the book doesn't really lean into the victim narrative at all though. in fact the first scene involving an indian that comes to mind is the one when an indian holds two babies by their ankles (one in each hand) and swings them into each other causing a bloody mess.
Okay, you guys convinced me I was wrong and I'll make sure to give this a read. Thank you frens!
Honestly I beleive the best way to go into BM is without any preconceptions. You're in for a ride, man.
Yeah. Perhaps it's time for a re-read.
Everyone's an butthole in that book.
it's the only book 95% of IQfy has ever read
This. I’d bet Blood Meridian, Crime and Punishment, Notes from Underground, Ulysses(not so much anymore), Gravity’s Rainbow(not so much anymore), IJ(not so much anymore), e-girlta, and Homer are over 50% of actual discussion on this board
So what does IQfy believe: Did Homer actually exist? Was it actually one and the same person who wrote Iliad and Odyssey?
The GR and (lack of) Ulysses threads are evidence agaisnt anyone actually reading them. The most widely read books on Lit at this point judging by actual discussion about them are BM, the gospels, and Call of the Crocodile.
There used to be in-depth discussions on them but that crowd has largely abandoned ship. The Ulysses read along was the last good read along
Only book I need in my life is the Holy Bible.
Then go to a bible forum
The moment Toadvine was described as having long hair I couldn't imagine him as anything else other than Axl from Guilty Gear with a cowboy hat
>"I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe." -- Jefferson to Madison
Have to crack some eggs to make an omelet-- or in this case, the path to a permanently open frontier in Space is the contest for world dominion, Type 1 on the Kardeshev scale, re: Schmitt's Nomos of the Earth: war. If you want world peace there has to be other places to frick off to rather than fight in this crab barrel globe for resources. Blood Meridian's a Boomer/late Silent Generation's observation s from Great Depression to the present that the miscarriage of the Space Race bodes very badly for our immediate and long term prospects.
>generic "wild west was le bad, indians are le poor victims."
The Comanche are out raiding and raping without concern for whether they're Mexican, other indios, or Americans. Glanton & The Judge as well more or less. The nominal revanchist Texan Colonel White doesn't end well with the Manifest Destiny and White Man's Burden guff.
This is a very unique and thought-provoking bite-sized essay, thanks. The way McCarthy constantly describes astronomical phenomena in a poetic or even somewhat mystical way in the book always made me wonder why it was turning up so much, for what reason. (The meteorite a blacksmith is using as an anvil and which the Judge throws in a show of strength, the Leonid meteor showers, the sun and moon and stars in general frequently being alluded to, the discussion of the possible existence of extraterrestrial life, etc.). I don’t know if your explanation is 100% certainly what McCarthy was going for (I’m not a “death of the author” guy and do care about authorial intent) but it is an interesting, possibly valid perspective.
>F Gardner writes a grammatically incorrect run-on sentence
IQfy laughs and derides him
>Cormac writes a grammatically incorrect run-on sentence
IQfy praises him and calls him the next Melville.
???
Cormac has plenty or naysayers here. I have actually argued on both sides of the argument lol
>"What side are you on?"
>"Depends on who I'm trolling at that moment."
Purposely dropping punctuation isn’t the same as writing like a grade schooler.
tbf there are countless grade schoolers that know better but they just can't be assed
>one is a shitty board writer, the other a universally acclaimed writer
It's not a mystery. McCarthy knows which rules to break and why. Gardner simply doesn't know granmar well enough to use it properly. That's the difference.
>When x well connected person scribbles it's art because muh authority and bandwagoners say so
Wow, such sound logic.
Helps not being moronic and being well versed in books. You wouldn't understand.
trite genre fiction
I fricked a masseuse last week and while I was banging her Runaway Train by Soul Asylum was playing and if you watch the music video for that song it’s about missing people so a part of me felt like she was trying to send clients a message that she was being trafficked. It wasn’t worth the money and I felt guilty afterwards. I have all sorts of problems with sex. First off I have a 7 and a quarter inch dick and literally ever woman I’ve been with (including the masseuse) complains that it’s too big. On top of that I just become very disinterested after the first few minutes. Every time I banged my ex I couldn’t care less. Doesn’t help that she was a raging c**t either. Cormac is a homosexual.
It's yet another story about the end of the wild west, just like ~75% of westerns ever made. But it's really gory and brutal and has a weird writing style so people think it's some unfathomable transcendent masterpiece
Read the book you illiterate homosexual.
I've red the first chapter now and I don't get it, the writing style makes it fast to read but at the same time annoys me. There was just a paragraph with 2 dudes fighting, a third one coming along knocking one of them out. When he wakes up it's written like the other dude beat him. No mention of the third dude, only to process naming 3 different dudes "kid" in one sentence.
It's like I'm reading the scramble of a IQfy poster that someone tried to match together in a way that it has the semblance of reason.
It let's/lit/cels indulge their inner edgelord while appearing "sophisticated".
Also, long, detailed descriptions of the American Southwest desert in the dusk
is this book a meme? Everyone talks about how violent it is, how bad the people in it are but by good what does it matter if it's written like distant scribbles?
So was the Judge the demiurge
He wasn't real
>The premise sounds like a generic "wild west was le bad, indians are le poor victims."
if this is your genuine appraisal of the greatest american novel of the past fifty years, then listening to posters called "Based_Kekistani1488" has broken your brain. please close out of your browser window and take a walk outside. mosey over to the library
its the only real novel about the wild west, the last place on earth where there were , in reality, no rules at all. it sources the content from actual memoirs and historical events and is written with some of the best prose of the 20th century. maybe some folks dont like it but i can nearly guarantee that most hate directed at the novel comes from a place of artistic ignorance and degeneracy. if you start feeling the same then you should really take this advice
>Why is this so highly regarded around here?
People recognise that it is a Journey to the West where the companions' actions exist as Daoist demons' actions exist. Glanton is Monkey, The Judge is Tripitaka, the priest is obviously the Water Demon, Pigsy is hard to identify. But who is the kid?
it's goyslop literature not far from stephen king
>le gore, le edge
shock value and memes: the book
IQfy has destroyed your brain, I'm sorry
it's a book about fate, war and the nature of man that doesn't cuck out with some "violence is le bad" twist at the end.
tfw i finally realized i am the judge irl
> [bunch of complete fricking gobledeasiatic]
> Ties it all up with a "They rode on" at the end
Pseud trash
Do you get all your opinions on literature from twitter communists who pretend all the books they read agree with them politically?
Gonna do a 30 minute Youtube video on the Aeneid
Then get back to Blood Meridian
You do not like blood Meridian. Break free from peer pressure.
Peer pressure, when applied to the right
person or people, at the right time, for the
right reason is not wrong.
Don't let yourself be peer pressured
into thinking all peer pressure is wrong.
>Why is this so highly regarded around here?
Because it is the Great American Novel. The content is subordinate to the style and philosophical dynamics. Having said that, the last 50 pages or so of Blood Meridian is scarier than Stephen King's entire bibliography
Who's that ? Llewellyn Moss
half the posts on this board feel like they're made by 15 year olds who dont read talking about the books they got assigned for their literature class.
like its cormac mccarthy. cmon. what do you mean "What makes this special?"
The moral of the story is be yourself, kill people and have fun
Its a justification of america. America as a luciferian project, by which i mean it was an attempt to struggle and overcome divine decree and create heaven on earth.
Judge is the driving force and also the judge of this endeavor. He represent infantile curiosity and lack of morality. He stands against both the savage and the priest. He represent the third way the way of lucifer and technology.
Novel is about surrender to this force. In the end judge wins, so message here is look u may have ur bible kid but in the end devil is gonna buttfrick u. The die has been cast with the creation of america and there is no going back. Either u let urself serve the technology driven amoral curiosity and judge will judge ur endeavor. Or u can perish like the indian. imo
Interesting take.
Recommend a book or two
What's on your reading list for the rest of the year?
disregarding any theme, character or story present in the book, its style alone makes it my favourite book of all time. It's written like it's the new canon of the world
It’s actually such a good book
But all the chuds on lit are crying about it I don't know
>indians are le poor victims
hahaha. Read the book, homie.
Near biblical descriptions of western landscapes and lots of violence, it's pretty neat
Just received it in the mail last night. Let's see