I have gotten rid of lust completely, but erasing the desire for love feels really difficult. Maybe because love has positive connotations, unlike lust. I don't want sex, I want a woman to love me, hold my hand, cuddle and talk to me. I can't find a way to remove this desire and it is making my life difficult. How do the monks do it? Is there any written text on it?
Stop being a homosexual. How about that. Frick, you guys are so cringe. Please reread your text and tell me how you’re not a grade A homosexual. Fricking homosexual
You are a slave to your desires.
I am an atheist.
Yeah? So are you. But at least the other anon isn't making a self obsessed corny post such as yourself or whoever wrote that drivel.
Literally homosexual.
If you've already stopped watching porn, your mind should be healing, and within a few months you'll find women who are actually within your league attractive and can stop being a homosexual and go have sex and find love.
Sure, whatever, I'm also a slave to clean drinking water, so I make sure I have it so I can have an enjoyable life, same romantic love.
Make your cringy homosexuality as virtuous in your own mind as you want, all you're doing is reinforcing the walls of the hell you are creating for yourself.
It really is the gayest thing I've read for a long time, gayer than literal gay sex.
That there are vastly more who didn't, and that your lust for world-historical achievement despite being just some guy spending time on imageboards is just another way that you hate yourself.
Deadlifts and cardio. Now.
That explains it. You'll continue this moronic until you convert.
What do you say to all the philosophers, mathematics, scientists, artists, musicians, and every other skillfull person, who stayed volcels to dedicate their lives to their works?
OP isn't Kant,Tesla, or whoever. He's most likely a normal guy with normal emotional needs, and that's fine.
>volcel musicians
Lol who?
>He's most likely a normal guy with normal emotional needs,
he's the one complaining about his emotional needs. We offer him examples of men who overcame them.
Behind every successful man, there is a woman. Checkmate.
Only in the sense that every man must have a mother. Otherwise unequivocally false.
Maybe, but a lot of them were at a fork in the road. A choice between love and work, and they chose to pursue their work to reach greatness. They even say so themselves. This tells you that can sacrifice romantic love to become the best.
Cope
Bach had 20 kids (literally fricked non-stop) and dwarfs all the other great composers.
Joyce was having his loving and doting wife fart in his face for his pleasure as he was editing the greatest piece of literature of the 20th century.
That some of them were neurotic and completely lacked vitality tells me nothing of interest.
Same for Hegel - worked all sorts of sidejobs, partied with the other students, loved to dance, loving wife and children, frequently travelled to Italy to listen to cheezy operas, died at 61 and from his output you'd think the guy just spent 75 years doing nothing but focus on philosophy. Makes you wonder how much of that was just him being a mad genius vs a balanced life actually being good for your intellectual pursuits.
>vs a balanced life actually being good for your intellectual pursuits.
It absolutely is, and disagreement comes from people who desperately want their unhealthy and immature lifestyles to actually imply that they're geniuses, depiste the fact that there is no proof of this purported genius apart from the toxic lifestyle that supposedly accompanies it.
you gotta recognize wether you are one of those or not. It will come a time where you will think to yourself 'What do I want?' Once you get an answer act accordingly
Neetzsche wrote a good piece on this on The Genealogy of Morals, it's the second dissertation and you should read it if that is a genuine question.
Youre supposed to be content with love from Jesus and God
>How do the monks do it?
They don't. You don't need and shouldn't get rid of love. But redirect it.
>“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and decay destroy, and thieves break in and steal. But store up treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor decay destroys, nor thieves break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there also will your heart be."-Matthew 6:19-21
So i should jerk off to the thought of God?
Fall in love and have your heart broken enough times that it no longer wants to love. For me lust is the far more persistent and all-encompassing desire.
Sure that will get rid of the desire of wanting to love, but it won't get rid of the desire of wanting to be loved.
A life without love is no life at all
I am talking about romantic love.
What about life-long bachelors like Nikolai Tesla, T. E. Lawrence, Alexander von Humboldt?
i mean i know nikolai tesla did great things but tell me with a straight face that his life wasnt shit,he was too good for this world honestly.
Now this is just idiotic. Plenty of philosophers and inventors lived without "love" and i'm sure their lives were much more meanigful than the average cattle who loved, married and died in a barn or something
there are many types of love.
love for spouse
love for friend
love for family
love for god
Do you have any idea how gay you sound? You’re on a literature board and you’re acting like some homosexual lonely romantic. Newsflash buddy, that girl you like hates your guts and is only being nice to you because she wants you to frick off from her. Hey! Also I hope you know that no one will ever want to “love you, hold your hand, cuddle or talk to you”. Because you’re being a homosexual on a IQfy board.
>You’re on a literature board and you’re acting like some homosexual lonely romantic
Yeah, so just like a reader/author.
>literature board and you’re acting like some homosexual lonely romantic.
Every author.
>ewsflash buddy, that girl you like hates your guts and is only being nice to you because she wants you to frick off from her.
Yeah, that's why he's asking the question in the OP. Do you have an answer or are you just here to have imaginary arguments with yourself?
>You’re on a literature board and you’re acting like some homosexual lonely romantic.
sounds like the kind of thing literature boards are for tbh. meanwhile your post reads like a seething /adv/tard, kek
I want her to like me back so bad, bros...
Verification required.
What an odd thing to say.
You can't, that is pain you have to bear with you until death
Simple as
Are you saying this book has a cure for love, or that I should consume opium?
Both
Read Grey's anatomy, buy a surgical toolkit, and cut your balls off.
Love works. Love is eugenic. Love was forged over thousands of years, the ancient greeks, the romans, they all wrote about love. And now you're here, a man of the 21st century, trying to ignore what has been carefully honed over millennia by nature: your own instincts. What a moron, may God crush you with all his might.
Reminder that throughtout there have been plently of volcels who acheived everything by rejecting love.
>Is there any written text on it?
Kant spoke about romantic love? Didn't know that?
>another coomer thread
>I can't read.
I love you.
Marinetti's novel Mafarka the Futurist has this as its stated objective, and many of his polemic essays ridicule and denigrate romantic love and cuddling.
>When I told them ‘Scorn Woman! they all hurled foul abuse at me like brothel-keepers after a police raid! And yet it isn’t woman's animal value that I’m talking about, but her sentimental importance.
>I want to fight the gluttony of the heart, the surrender of parted lips as they drink the nostalgia of twilights, the fever of comet's tails crushed and overlaid by distant stars, the colour of shipwreck. I want to conquer the tyranny of love, the obsession with the one and only woman, the strong Romantic moonlight bathing the front of the Brothel.
People like you disgust me. What you just described is a mommy. You want a mommy? You wanna suck on your thumb and get patted on the head and have her call you a good boy? Love isn’t a bad thing , but as a man , if you desire cuddling and holding hands you are a CHILD. homosexual.
kys, deranged idiot.
Mommy , mommy! Pwease hold my hand and cuddle me! Man the frick up homosexual.
weakmind.
waaaaaaaah!!! mommy!!!!!!
have a nice day
I can't even comprehend being this mad about some innocuous post not even necessarily directed to me. Are these the same anon? Why are you so bitter? Take your lithium
The question shouldn’t be how to not love. It should be how to love everyone as much as you love an object of your sexual desire.
>It should be how to love everyone as much as you love an object of your sexual desire.
What do you mean? I don't care about sex.
>I have gotten rid of lust completely, but erasing the desire for love feels really difficult.
Fall in love but don't marry, after few years you'll discover how moronic it is.
I did not crave love until I learned the word for it. On your way to work you see a young couple flirting in the park. You reach office and you hear people talking about their partners. You get home and you load up a movie with a romantic scene, or you go to some feels thread on /wsg/ where you see people cuddling, or you watch porn, or you watch some romcom anime, or you check facebook and see your former classmates marrying, or you check twitter, tiktok and you see a man and a woman doing couple things together etc. etc. There's a reason monks live like hermits and not in society. Tesla and other volcels buried themselves in work, and probably lived hermit-like lives anyway, and even they did not always escape those feelings.
>Although he told a reporter in later years that he sometimes felt that by not marrying, he had made too great a sacrifice to his work, Tesla chose to never pursue or engage in any known relationships, instead finding all the stimulation he needed in his work.
It's probably impossible to escape that need to love or be loved because you are constantly exposed to it, constantly assaulted by reminders of something you could have, but you don't. Humans are social creatures and they crave the same happiness they see in others from their environment. The only way to escape it while still exposed to this would be to get burned so hard from a relationship that it sours the desire entirely.
I don't have any advice to give you because I fell down the same hole and I can't get out myself. Instead I'll leave you with my own personal anecdote:
The first year of Covid quarantine, my schedule would involve working 9 hours remote, cooking, doing push-ups, reading the greeks and playing games. That was the best year of my life, mental health wise. The next year I finished the greeks and dabbled in romance novels instead, as well as romantic fanfiction and whatnot. 6 months later I was at my most miserable and lonely point in my life. Now I watch teenage romance anime on the regular and you'll find me in every tfwnofg or doomer threads around. I've realized it's poison but I can't stop because I have nothing else to fill my life with. Do what you will with this information and I hope you'll be stronger than me.
You're addicted to love and the withdrawal is even worst than porn.
Avoid talking to girls, AI companion etc... and focus on your hobbies then you'll get better. I've got no book for you, only time will heal you.
more buddhism
>Sayings of the Holy Desert Fathers by Saint Palladius
A lot of black pills about women in that book. Good white pills about God and living the celibate/introvert life.
Spending all your time alone has seeded this overwhelming romantic desire in you. Once you accept the romantic dream as a product of loneliness attempting to transcendence itself, you'll find it perfectly manageable. Mabye spill some lust and the dream will lessen.
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