why is low self-esteem such an undesirable trait?
I can't understand why people feel attacked and disgusted by self-pity.
shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, women should hate arrogant men
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Certainly! While there isn't a specific paper that directly addresses women viewing men with low self-esteem as undesirable, there are related studies that shed light on gender differences, self-esteem, and how individuals perceive certain traits. Let's explore some relevant research:
1. **"The Effects of Self-esteem, Traditional Gender Roles, and Gender on Reward, Intimacy, and Enhancement as Motivations for Sexual Relations"**:
- This study examined motivations for sexual relations between partners, considering factors like self-esteem, sex roles, and gender.
- Key findings include:
- **Self-esteem** was positively associated with **intimacy and enhancement motivations** but negatively associated with **sex as a reward motivation**.
- **Traditional sex roles** were positively associated with **sex as a reward and intimacy motivations**.
- Interestingly, women engaged in sex as a reward more than men, while men engaged in sexual intercourse for enhancement more than women1.
- While this study doesn't specifically address "undesirability," it highlights how self-esteem and gender play a role in sexual motivations.
2. **"Gender Differences in Body Evaluation"**:
- While not focused on self-esteem, this study explored how men and women evaluate bodies. Men tend to devalue non-ideal bodies and upvalue ideal bodies when self-related, while women rate bodies in a fair-minded manner3.
In summary, while there isn't a specific paper on women viewing men with low self-esteem as undesirable, these studies offer relevant perspectives on self-esteem, gender, and sexual motivations. Keep in mind that individual perceptions can vary, and it's essential to consider a broader context when examining such dynamics.
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>why is low self-esteem such an undesirable trait?
Men who sincerely cannot fathom this deserve to become sissified sex slaves and I'm not even kidding.
I've noticed that it's a particular class of women who hate guys with low self-esteem because they somehow rationalize their self-hate in their mind as a lack on their part
Men hate guys with low self-esteem just as much as women.
Same goes with men. Imagine you're an alpha leader of the pack that is the whole human race and there's some dude in the back hitting his head on a pavement. You'd be like - What am I doing wrong that?
>alpha leader of the pack
you're brown
That alpha beta bullshit was rescinded by the original author you know, it was based off of a pack in distress.
Because if she reproduces with a confident man then gets attacked by a mountain lion he'll frick it up to protect the baby. If she reproduces with you you'll curl up into a little ball hoping it doesn't hurt you.
And everyone hates being around whining and manipulation. The men wouldn't actively dislike you if you kept it to yourself.
>as much
No.
>Fighting with a mountain lion
>Picrel is of Darwin
The joke is practically made for me there to put into wording but the question now is that should I show superior virtue and abstain myself from being silly or try to get along and make everyone feel a bit comfortable at the cost my prudence
>heh, this fool believes i should engage in fisticuffs when the optimal survival strategy is to flee and let the slowest member of my herd be eaten
>wtf why won't the slowest members of my herd give me sex?
If you were a herbivore maybe your attitude would be attractive. Since you're not, and your species evolved to use violence, you're a shitty choice for a mate since you're too big a b***h to use violence. If two men have a conflict over the right to mate, 50% of them get to reproduce. If it's one man vs you, you get to chortle about your superior conflict resolution skills, and he has a 100% chance of reproducing.
>money and properties = security
You dont live in the safari anymore , stupid nig*er. You dont have to fight and use violence to attract women, just have a profession that leaves good impression on others (that doesnt evolves slaving yourself ) and makes you good money with the least effort, and dont forget to tune down your autism and be nice to others.
Dude, in the particular example the slowest member of the heard was my baby. Why would I want to fricky my baby, what are you talking about? I'm not going to fistfight a mountain lion to have sex. What sort of deranged woman would have that as her criteria for mating? Even the mountain lion would probably have pity on me on me and be like - Dude, the pool of women you have to for mating sucks
You wouldn't fistfight a goose to have sex because you're a pussy. You also don't understand that evolution continued after the pointy stick was invented. If you want to understand why willingness to engage in conflict is sexually attractive to women, then read any book on evolution. If you want to rationalize why you're actually a good reproductive choice despite being a coward, keep making hilarious quips about befriending mountain lions to the internet.
Go find another female. Most species don't have a single male mating literally every female.
Being in a state of continual agony, fantasizing about fighting gooses to have sex can't possibly be good for your mental health in the long run, can it? And I can fight but when "sex" as a reward is involved I feel like I'm being manipulated to act against myself for some reason
I'm not the one making IQfy threads whining about people not liking me. You asked a question and I answered it.
If you don't want to have sex then don't. If you do then stop being a b***h.
BUT IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE SUBMISSIVE MEN WERE AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME. DRESSED SCANTILY LIKE HOW THE WOMEN DO NOW. WITH THEIR DICKS HANGING OUT AND STUFF. DO YOU NOT WANT TO LIVE IN THAT WORLD? YOU CAN PICK ANY MALE AND BRING HIM BACK TO YOUR ROOM FOR YOUR PLEASURE AND CALL HIM A b***h AND STUFF IF THAT IS YOUR FETISH
>Women enjoy being a reward
You possibly can't be the strongest male out there. There is always someone who can beat your ass. What if she infinitely regresses to keep on choosing better mates than you, and then does the same with the next guy? What is the solution here?
traditional marriage is the solution, civil marriage is a bourgeois trick to double the income and get tax reduction , and children is a tax haven for the bourgeoisie.
Being in a marriage where you can trap down any attractive female and demand sex whenever you want has to be the most male fantasy out there
I haven't heard this distinction before, anon. How is bourgeois marriage distinct from traditional marriage?
It's like dogs who smell fear.
>women
>rationalize
ah, a classic mistake.
>why is low self-esteem such an undesirable trait?
human nature
only when it concerns men btw
Women are just property.
You're a fricking man.
Learn the difference troon.
Real
>why is low self-esteem such an undesirable trait?
>I can't understand why people feel attacked and disgusted by self-pity.
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>shouldn't it be the other way around? I mean, women should hate arrogant men
What women say they want is almost always different than what they want subconsciously. Obviously if for millions of years the dominant aggressive males get to reproduce it's going to reflect in current day genetics and desires. Marriage is a relatively recent development that might change human genetics if the trend continues into the future, and might've already changed the genetics of certain population groups who've practiced it for thousands of years at this point in time. While the trad-wife might be "traditional", male domination and harems are primordial. Humans also have quite amazing neural plasticity though which is why we're easily able to reprogram our desires to fit a society's needs.
>While the trad-wife might be "traditional", male domination and harems are primordial
It's the opposite, the real sexual degeneracy started only after agricultural civilizations during which the great harem bottleneck happened: in "primordial" times, social organization was much more stable because they were already advanced civilizations with sophisticated calculation systems for arranged marriages etc.
>why is low self-esteem such an undesirable trait?
>I can't understand why people feel attacked and disgusted by self-pity.
A man needs to be useful and able to take care of himself and others. A man who cannot do that and is instead a burden to others is undesirable.
Self-pity helps no one and signals your uselessness.
take your pills Alice
Im a Twink who fricks men and women
/Lit/cels btfo out
its annoying and disingenuous. logically there is no motive to self pity besides fishing for sympathy. what other point is there to exhibiting homosexualry in public? for anothers benefit? no. its selfish and its insistant, and nobody wants to deal with that
you were instructed that meekness and pity are virtuous. there is nothing good about being weak. go have sex or die.
It's despicable because it's despicable.
Orson Wells on Woody Allen:
I hate Woody Allen physically, I dislike that kind of man. He has the Chaplin Disease; that particular combination of arrogance and timidity sets my teeth on edge. Like all people with timid personalities his arrogance is unlimited. Anybody who speaks quietly and shrivels up in company is unbelievably arrogant. He acts shy, but he loves himself; a very tense situation. It's people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest. To me, it's the most embarrassing thing in the world - a man who presents himself at his worst to get laughs, in order to free himself from his hang-ups. Every thing he does on the screen is therapeutic.