As someone who was bullied all the way through my school years I'm interested in learning about the psychology and metaphysics of human cruelty. Why do some people derive pleasure from the humiliation and pain of others? And why is it the same tactics are ubiquitous with all cruel people, as if this is something inherent to the human race, and not their own innovation?
This short story collection is good but mistitled. Only one of the stories is actually about bullying and cruelty.
I don’t think it’s some people, but the majority of young people.
they're winners you're a loser. only logical choice is to become a cuckold.
Kys.
Based AF
Based psycho.
Hit a little close, huh. Find a beam and let gravity do the work.
> Find a beam and let gravity do the work
Good advice to try on yourself first.
>Hit a little close
Nah, just dont like mentally inferior people.
>mentally inferior
>posts on IQfy
the irony
same person
Cruelty and sexual gratification.what most pleasure and happiness derives from
what an edgy response
true though
coomer spotted
Animals learn from many things, and also by inflicting violence (to the point of killing, sometimes). Same for humans. Don't let past bullying define your being (I know it can be hard, but I also know that you can do it). Nietzsche has a lot of passages --in many books-- about how violence and innocence go hand by hand most of the time.
Ok, but how much of an autistic outcast were you in high school and middle school. Do you honestly not understand group dynamics?
Yeah I didn’t really. I was naive. I assumed that everyone was interested in genuine communication and love. For example, people used to misunderstand me a lot, and take my words in the wrong way. They would confront me about their misunderstanding, and I would explain to them what I really meant. This was taken as a sign of weakness. Later, I realised that these people hadn’t really misunderstood me, that they were merely using a psychological-warfare tactic to make me feel isolated in my own head, as if nothing I say makes any sense to anyone, so I would be scared to speak for fear of being misunderstood. I realised that the “weak” response in such a situation was to insist on what one really originally meant, because truthful communication was not really important to those people. The only “strong” response would be to have a fight with them or tell them to frick off.
stop smoking weed loser
>the only "strong" response would be to have a fight or tell them to frick off
This fundamental misunderstanding is why you're a sperg, anon. Trying to mechanize the scenario and then giving yourself binary options are the hallmarks of an autistic mind. In reality, you were just weird and nobody liked you, so you got picked on. It's not complicated.
How is my analysis wrong? If someone purposefully misunderstands what you said in order to have a confrontation with you, then insisting on what you originally meant is usually taken as a sign of weakness. E.g:
>“Nice hate mate!”
>“ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF ME? You’re being sarcastic? Huh??”
>”No I just meant you have a nice hat, that’s all.”
This last response is generally construed as weakness. Even though that’s what you originally meant, the response of the other person was not aimed at truthful communication, but meaningless ego-battle and confrontation. So the only way to respond to that in a way that doesn’t seem weak to others is to continue the confrontation, either by punching the guy or telling him to frick off. If you just simply walk away because you realise what he’s doing and you’re uninterested in getting into fights over nothing, then that will also be construed as weakness. So the only option is to fight.
This is what I learned from being bullied for years. I was too intellectual, rational, and open-hearted, so I assumed that everybody else was too. I assumed when they “misunderstood” me it was genuine, and not a psychological warfare tactic, and so I tried to rationally explain what I really meant. They all took this as weakness and further piled on me.
>weird and nobody liked you so you got picked on
Yeah but I’m asking what’s the explanation for the jump between “I don’t like you and you’re weird” to “I wish to humiliate you and destroy your self esteem and cause you pain.” I don’t like certain things or people as well, but I don’t wish to destroy them. This destructive instinct is what fascinates me.
me personally as a bully I did it for two reasons.
1. if it was a girl I did it because it is very exciting to see a girl struggle or cry or be humiliated.
2. if it was a boy it's because it just feels right to push someone to the edge, its a really unique feeling. It's the same feeling I get when I squish bugs, see roadkill or kill small pest animals. It just feels good and the responses were always really nice. Theres a certain look that you people give, its like a cow-eyed dead stare full of hate, but its a defeated hate because you know that you can't do anything to me. So you bite your tongue, I notice that and that is very very exciting. I can also weed out autism, and would single those people out. I would befriend them and then make fun of them and slowly drift apart. that part is the best.
Interesting, so I guess there’s not really a rational explanation for it other than feeling right? It just feels good but the reason for it is unexplained. Fair enough. I wonder if psychologists have analysed this feeling any deeper though, to see where it comes from or what its purpose is.
That's the same behavior exhibited by budding serial killers. Have fun in prison, homosexual
You laugh it off. Seriously. If you can't turn an absurd nonissue like
>I'm bullying you using x obvious excuse to establish pecking order
into comedy, you're just an autist. There's nothing "intellectual" about rationalizing your inability to adapt. As to why you attracted humiliation, it's because you were shallow. A bully pinpoints the empty and vulnerable because you mirror the bully. The difference is the bully's ability to adapt. If you'd like a book, I'd recommend The Nurture Assumption.
>neurotypical
Something only neurotypicals pretending neurodivergency give any thought to. Are you stemming for points?
Even laughing is sometimes considered weakness though. If someone’s mocking you and you laugh they might take it as if you have no self-respect, and may deride you even further. The best thing, at least in my situation, was to fight. I was too cowardly to do so though so I just stopped going to school and became an anxious loner.
That book you recommended seems very bleak, to say that parenting has no effect upon the development of children. I think if we take an Aristotelian approach to ethics, and view virtue as a habit that must be inculcated and cultivated through repetition and outside pressure, then we will see that parenting is in fact supremely important. One of the reasons Asian children excel in virtue is because their parents force them to learn instruments, and get good grades, and participate in soul-building activities. Parenting may seem ineffective now because of state schooling, which brainwashes children and teaches them that there is no Good except not harming others.
my diagnosis was in 1990, zoomergay.
God I can't until neurotypicals are exterminated off the earth
Ignore the other anons, they're trying to do what you've written here all over again. It's just ego maintenance. You can't be small and weak, so it goes, if you have dominion over another.
I was a bully troughtout school and i did it because i loved to predict their reaction and be correct and feel the power over them. Not gonna lie, its quite addicting to feel it but i dont do it anymore because in adult world the punishment of bullying is being arrested
I looked up this collection. It's a weird selection for sure. Only The Swan fits the title. Roald Dahl wrote a lot about cruelty; they could have picked much better.
TEN ROALD DAHL SHORT STORIES INVOLVING CRUELTY
— Galloping Foxley
Public school sadism
— The Swan
Bullying
— Nunc Dimittis
Sexual jealousy, manipulation, and multiple vengeance
— The Way Up To Heaven
Marital cruelty (mental)
— The Last Act
Sexual vengefulness
— William And Mary
Prolonged marital coldness and sadistic vengeance
— Man From The South
Weird obsessive-fetishistic cruelty
— The Ratcatcher
Animal cruelty
— An African Story
Animal cruelty & vengeance
— Vengeance Is Mine Inc
Humorous getting-your-own-back
'How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?'
Winston thought. 'By making him suffer,' he said.
'Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own?'
Nice, thanks for the recommendations mate.
Why are you afraid of being arrested? You seem pretty badass bro