What books have totally transformed the way you live your life? For me, it was “Thus Spoke Zarathustra”.
 Shopping Cart Returner Shirt $21.68 |
 UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68 |
Shopping Cart Returner Shirt $21.68 |
Books that changed your world outlook
Come the frick on
Charles Bukowski's Post office, followed by "Women."
I thought I was a depressed drunk before I read that; after I read those two I realized that I am comparatively a massive pussy. I don't hold a candle to his level of depression and alcoholism. Sobered up very quickly after those books, quit my job, moved, and now I am much happier.
Sun and Steel, a book about purifying the soul through purifying the body by Yukio Mishima. How self-improvement of one's physique can give purpose, it's changed my life immensely, before I read it I was straight.
This honestly or On Dictatorship
Man's search for meaning, by Viktor Frankl
Dumbest book ever written
Post your onions beard
I remember being 12 too.
Post a book you recommend instead of acting like a 12 year old
The Critique of Pure Reason
>taking Nietzsche to be anything more than a self-loathing kraut LARPing as a Polish aristocrat and "high-minded" intellectual (i.e. pseud).
>Doesn't even acknowledge that most of what he wrote was plagiarized from Schopenhauer, the uber-incel archetype, right down to his purposefully obscurantist style, emphasis on cultural criticism, and penchant for integrating Eastern religious motifs/ideas into his philosophy.
It's all so tiresome.
What part of his work do you criticize without being so general? I’m serious. Zarathustra demonstrates a clear charcuterie of modern men which is also something Yamamoto Tsunetomo, author of Hagakure discusses. Can any of you ever speak by explains your thoughts instead of quipping? Have you all become so feminine that this is how you talk to people?
>le Hagakure name drop
>accusations of femininity for daring to speak the truth
please. They're two peas in a pod; advocating an "honor code" value system and an organizational hierarchy that had already passed from the historical scene. They were men who stood for the past and pined for the good ol' days of guts, glory, and patriarchy, all the while ignoring the inevitable material and social advances of society that made possible the advantages that they themselves benefited from. Nietzsche especially strikes the observant reader as an embittered offspring of the mid-century Romantics (to whom he owes much of his taste in culture, despite his disavowals to the contrary), decrying the bourgeois status quo of his age whilst offering not an alternative for the future, but a distorted view of the past. His own insights on the limits of shared truth (i.e. perspectivalism), and the role played by a community in shaping and passing down the values and beliefs that mold a society, doom his own project for prescribing a new universal moral code for the "higher man" or ubermensch. Instead he reaffirms his blind faith that someday, somewhere, an exemplar will rise above the herd, reclaim that essential dynamism and boldness of action, and serve as a guide and exemplar for the new generation. It's cope at the highest level.
Tsunetomo is the same, but even less so. In a bureaucratic, feudal society that is increasingly responsive to economic expansion and a desire for centralized institutions of government, he calls for a return to the almost medieval ethos of selfless devotion of a retainer to his lord, regardless of the moral qualities or lack thereof demonstrated by one's superior. His preoccupation with the existential constant of death, and its use as a motivator for immediate and purposeful action is not novel in-and-of itself, but for what it will eventually yield (that is, the phenomenon of hyper-nationalism and imperial conquest by the Japanese in WW2).
I agree with Nietzsche because you see it everyday. Name one instance of your life in this modern world where you spoke to a man worth being called so. Even the most prominent male figures fawn over the ideas comforts. The idea that current men are half of what they use to be is inside every single adult mans head. How can every man collectively share this idea that masculinity is dead and feminine ideals are the forefront of society? Even you know this true. The point of these works in my opinion is to cultivate a learned middle man. You and I do not live in a time of crisis and turmoil. Therefore we should not allow the luxury to soften our minds, our habits and how we present ourselves. You take what they preach and apply it almost verbatim as if this is the intended purpose of modern man reading these recordings and stories. Obviously Bushido related to the Edo period is totally out of line with our society but that doesn’t mean adopting the spirit of these individuals is stupid. If you think the purpose of studying these materials is to preach slavery to a master or wait for an omnipotent being to usher in glory to manhood again by example you totally missed the point. The point being that time is right now. You are a Middle man. Your existence is totally worthless as man in our current state of affairs. However things change. Turmoil will return to the land you live. Maybe not your life time, but then entire point is to give this knowledge to the men who will face the adversity which is no doubt soon to come. You and I are tainted by modern society in ways that are totally un-reversible. We have been blasted with state propaganda for generations. This includes televisions in your home which diluted your family growing up, and extends to the non stop barrage of political attacks on your psyche that you subconsciously consume. You take these teachings and give them to the people worth building up. Zarathustra demonstrates this with his disciples
>everybody knows that masculinity in the realm of culture and ideas is dead and femininity reigns supreme. how do I know this? Uh...well... I just DO, ok, chud?
>resorts to lazy and vacuous ad-hominem when challenged on the validity of his favorite thinker's prescription for society's ills.
>refuses to engage with the points made, instead just preaches the same old "you'll see, one day you'll see I was right" diatribe that all right-wing nuts resort to.
Listen, bud. I have no problem with discussing the issues that are a harm to modern society and the potential sources of and solutions to those trouble areas. Nevertheless, I object to the holding up of Nietzsche and his ideological kin as being relevant luminaries in these areas of trouble. I consider him a charlatan and a fraud; whose philosophical insights are better phrased by other thinkers in a more fleshed out and systematic manner, and without the underlying malice that colors his whole corpus. His ethics are, without question, wholly inapplicable to the problems facing our world in the 21st century; not mention that his epistemology precludes any attempt to universal morality, thus undermining his whole project. His view of the world as merely an aesthetic spectacle in which one participates with the sole intent of realizing one's creative potential before the inevitability of death drops the curtain on life's performance is the production of an immature narcissistic mind; at best, it is the philosophy of a smug and successful bourgeois professor. Finally, his deliberate exaltation of the absurd, the violent, and the irrational for its own sake gave a cue to the reactionary and extremely polarized politics of the post WW1 era and led, indirectly, to the establishment of totalitarian regimes in Europe and abroad.
It's fine if you like these guys, anon. But let's not pretend that ideas don't have consequences, nor forget that history is the most fair judge of outcomes.
I didn’t even read your post because you used IQfy le epic meme format
You say history is the most fair judge of outcomes. I hope you weren't the guy that vouched for Marx as an alternative contemporary of Nietzsche.
Who would you advocate for? I liked your critique even if I don't agree. Earlier in the thread someone was criticizing right wing thinking in general. As a moderate I'm tired of this "team sports" approach to basic thinking/politics/philosophy
I think society has some responsibility to the poor too, but without men to operate the gears and pull the levers and put in the work, there is no society. Without MEN to make families, none of it is possible. There is wisdom in some old ways. To throw it all away as conservatism is dangerously silly.
Bottom line? Nietzsche and Tsunetomo aren't considered thinkers of the highest caliber, along the line of more famous contemporaries such as J.S. Mill or Karl Marx, for the simple fact that they refused to engage with the most pressing issues that so agitated the societies in which they lived. They were too preoccupied with a revisionist view of the past and publishing Jeremiads railing against the "degeneracy" of their peers.
It is the denigration of reason that marks them out as black sheep amidst their compeers; an almost scornful embracing of outdated values without justification and a willingness to shout down the opposition with violence of speech and force of feeling, rather than logical argument or discussion.
The inevitable fruit of these twin philosophies was the Italian futurists of the early 20th century (with their emphasis on immediate action, violence, technology, and chauvinism) and the rise of rabidly xenophobic, ultra-conservative, and populist parties in a post-war European environment (Christian Social Party of Vienna, Action Française, etc.) that ultimately produced the Nazis. Japan's hyper-nationalist government likewise leveraged Tsunetomo's work as propaganda during their military incursions in Southeast Asia and the Pacific. Hagakure was widely read by troops on deployment.
The tall and short of it is that these two chuds, Nietzsche and Tsunetomo, were pseuds of the highest order who mistook their clarity of thought for depth of insight, and whose force of personality and epigrammatic style attracts the maladjusted youth of society who seek purpose and who lack stabilizing relationships. Stick a fork in this thread, it's done.
What does it feel like to be smarter than Nietzche?
Perhaps your not understanding us. We like these ideals and no matter how much you try to turn into OMG NAZI worship, we discard you, because we know you have nothing to offer other men. These ideals largely resonate with more men than modern day society. I purpose this, how does the ideal of man hood translate in a country like the USA. Please explain to us what it means to be a man in the USA without using anything Yamato and Nietzsche harken to? You fricking can’t because you live to destroy true men. In other words your a clit and would rather have a nice conversation over some coffee or tea like a fricking women. These “teachings” resonate with far more guys striving to achieve man hood. Go frick yourself
You are a crass ignoramus who seemingly cannot grasp the notion that there are ethical ideals and exemplars outside of the narrow conceptual apparatus provided by fringe-folk heroes like Nietzsche, Tsunetomo, and Evola who are worshiped by the dissolute youth of modern society. I look to the men of the Reformation, to the scientists and explorers of the 16th, 17th, and 18th century. I look to men like Locke, Spinoza, Harrington, Milton, William of Orange, Johnson, Burke, Fox, Robert Owen and many others. And lest I be accused of merely preferring those men of much thought and little action, I likewise regard Gustavus Adolphus, the Duke of Marlborough, and General Washington with similar respect and due honor. In other words, my friend, I honor them who are duly worthy of honoring. I do not praise mere bloodshed and gore the way Nietzsche and his ilk do; a paltry sham of masculinity that reduces it to the mere exercise of one's will over another, whether in the form of brute strength or military effectiveness. Your idols are hypocrites who yearned to be men of action, but left no legacy of memorable action themselves; they are failures and by your own criteria.
If anything has been made clear in this exchange, it is that you have been forced to confront an immature mentality for what it truly is and, in the face of such a revelation, have responded with name-calling and fallacies. You have to rebuttal; no real substantive argument. You simply cannot admit that your formative influences are dead-ends and can offer no real solutions to the problems that face us in the 21st century. Thanks for the engaging talk, anon. Here's hoping it helps prod you along to further reflection.
I actually respect you for not retaliating in my out burst of anger. Surely you see why men like me are drawn to these folks. For a long time Iv watched my peers, hell, my brothers fall down a cascading black hole due to modern societies values. I find it almost impossible to surround myself with individuals with even singular aspects to strive towards. I almost with utmost certain can tell you there is no one in their lives they strive to emulate that aren’t consumers or sales men, clever men, and deceivers alike. I constantly brood that my family has nothing to aspire towards because all the male men in my line folly. My father neglected residing me, always referring to me as my mother’s son. My uncles are all consumers who fell victim to perpetual propaganda, always parroting insanity to me. If I even had a shred of respect for those men I would have easily fallen into their ridiculous propaganda. I’m talking actual right wing idiocy. So what can you say to a man like me? What can you offer me and the absurd amount of youth exactly like me? More men fall in line with the Superman now than ever. It’s obvious men absolutely need true conflict. I don’t sit here thinking about taking power or government control or revolution. We want to become men because so many of us seek to be at god damn peace. Yamato appeals to this by simply preaching the idea of being already dead. No weights can hold you down and you can leap head first into any adversity in your path. This is infinitely more appealing than anything you can offer unless you prove me wrong
I don't believe that any one man or one system of thought can provide the necessary substantive fiber for human beings to live lives of utmost virtue and dignity; it is as Shakespeare says, "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." The names listed here
provide some of the basis for my overall moral and axiological framework, but they too are a drop in the bucket. I too admire and draw insight from the Stoics, as well as the Peripatetic and even the Epicurean schools. I've studied the wisdom of Chinese philosophy and the religious traditions of India. All of these I submit to the test of experience, both individual (personal) and collective (historical). There is room enough for every nugget of worth in the treasury that a mature man makes his bedrock of success.
Lastly, and most importantly, I am committed to a Reformed Christian worldview that sees and judges everything in light of Scripture and the testimony afforded by God to all men. My opinions are so formed as to attempt synthesis and reconciliation where possible, and yet know when compromise is untenable. To sum up, I would offer to the young men of today the esteemed works of our shared Western tradition, in all of its complexity and nuance, keeping in mind that its heart and soul as rooted in the Christian faith. It is my conviction that no secular ideology or aesthetic spectacle can long take the place that religion and religious affections occupy in the soul of man. Ultimately, we derive our core values and principles of action from our beliefs, deeply held and sincerely felt.
I would recommend the series "The Story of Civilization" by Will Durant, not so much as a secondary historical source, but for the broad and integrated view he holds as regards to culture, philosophy, science, and religion as a whole. Hope this helps grease the wheels a bit, anon.
TL;DR
The stoics advice to live a virtuous life for more authenticity would surely apply to the youth of our time
Nietzsche also speaks to the singular individual first, instead of virtues he adulates aesthetics and self overcoming, the book Zarathustra even advises you renounce him once you have learned from him and developed your own opinions(possibly to return later)-
Nietzsche doesn't ask you to submit to anyone or anything, and he tells you to aspire higher no matter the hardship-
In what sense is this sentiment not a noble ether to give modern men?
His is a philosophy to the person first not the grand metaphysical "phenomenology"
And he surely speaks a good inspiration to the individual who contemplates his word carefully
holy fricking based. chad IQfy posters do still visit this board.
>muh pseuds muh incels
What a brainlet.
stop eating "liquid meals" and start going to the gym any time
It taught me that while you often can't fix your mistakes, you can move past them, be a good person in spite of them.
In Tune with the Infinite
Free to read:
https://www.sacred-texts.com/nth/twi/twi02.htm
None, but that's one good book.
Karl Marx - Capital
Prometheus Rising, by Robert Anton Wilson
Got me into zeteticism and the 8 circuit model of consciousness
The Psychedelic Experience, by Leary, Albert and Metzner
Was read to me during an LSD session and made me into the person I am today
The Game of Life by Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson
Became my guide in life for about 5 years, a constant reference as to how to trip
Sex, Ecology, Spirituality by Ken Wilber
Got me off psychedelics and onto serious exploration of states and stages of consciousness - this is the best theoretical text I've ever read. Chapter 3 is guaranteed to blow minds. A taste: https://www.integralworld.net/20tenets.html (A holon is a whole made of parts as well as a part of a whole)
isn't that image used as the cover of Frankenstein?