Your picture doesn't explain why atheism is wrong, just that it leads to a poor society.
Atheism is reality and reality is bleak.
For the sake of a good society you can keep everyone believing the comforting lie of religion, or you can choose to live in reality and accept the consequences of that.
The proof is that it is indisputably irrational to deny the existence of God. To concede the existence of God is literally the only way of maintaining rationality.
The Bible teaches that we are in a fallen world , that we are in a fallen state, and that life is suffering. It’s not a big fricking theme park like atheists like to believe. Religion isn’t a cope , atheism is.
You just described that The Bible is cope, as it's providing the idea that there is somewhere a better world (heaven) instead of our current (suffering) one. So basically a cope that there is a better world
Christians must stay wary of sinning, day in and day out, 24/7, 365 days a year for the rest of our lives. We can't frick whoever we want, smoke, get tattoos, do whatever you moronic materialists do without risking eternal damnation. I'm pointing out that the original poster seems to think that Christian life is some easy way out of life, some kind of cope, when in reality atheism is the true cope. We have duties and responsibilities, we can't just sit at home watching Rick and Morty, you homosexual.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Christianity imposes on it's believers a set of rules and guidelines that are simply unachievable for a human, a person will always in some way sin. Now, that builds up a sense of guilt, with which you have to go to repent in some way be that going to priest for salvation or prayer.
And so christians go smoking, getting tattoos(like cross is one of the most popular tattoos), fricking people, because they have always a foundation to fall back on, so they can do that stuff, because the guilt that builds up in them can be released while repenting. Atheism simply doesn't have something to fall back on in case of feelings guilt.
Also feeling of guilt is not based on some kind of moral principle, but on psychology of humans.
You can enjoy doing materialistic stuff precisely, because you have metaphysics to fall back on in case of guilt for enjoying the materialistic stuff. And let's be real are christians really so godfearing and repentfull? Some of them are sure, but most of them are not. So for the majority the shield of seeking salvation by going to priest and praying is simply a cope.
9 months ago
Anonymous
just to add on
You are facing consequences, but replacing the real consequences with fake ones, that can be easly dismissed by prayer, going to priest and so on, and that's a cope
9 months ago
Anonymous
I completely agree that most Christians are not really god fearing, but that doesn't invalidate the teachings of the religion itself. What you are describing is not repentance, it's guilt or remorse.
Repentance in the Greek/Hebrew is a 'change of mind', or to 'change one's purpose', change of heart.
Genuine repentance involves a real desire and commitment to not repeat the sin and, thus, will lead to a person putting accountability measures in place in a concerted effort to conquer the ungodly behavior.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You are a fricking hylic,priest cant give you salvation only Christ can.
It's just a statistical anomaly that Muslims, israelites, and Christians are overwhelmingly not gay or trans, right? And the gays and trannies are overwhelmingly nonreligious, that's just another statistical anomaly?
Because those religions are hostile to gays, trans and the like
Most of the gay people are not atheists, because there is some natural predisposition in atheism towards what? being gay?
In many religions and communities being gay is considered a sin, something wrong, so of course those people are gonna seek closure in communities that are not hostile to them.
So gay people are not gay because they are atheists they are atheists because they are gay. You are simply confusing cause with effect.
well when your religion executes or otherwise persecuted you throughout history, then yeah it led to closeted homosexuality in these cultures. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you think there's just magically no biological gay people in Muslim countries, or are you intentionally being moronic
>intentionally moronic >claims gayness is biologically determined
What's the gay gene? What's the biological encoding?
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there's no reason to suggest it's not at the moment, it's absolutely not a life anyone would willingly chose. If I could make myself straight, I would in a heartbeat. I know your entire outlook is full of hate and being edgy all the time but you have no idea what it's like.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its a disease. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathies for the diseased but not treating it for what it is can be bad as well.
After Virtue by Alisdair McIntyre. If he had folded the mandates of industrialization into that book, it would be perfect. Instead, he blames everything on enlightenment liberalism and the abandonment of classical virtue. Maybe it did, but industrialization did far more damage and that seems to me undeniable.
The best book for that purpose would be a book that actually crushes the atheism of those who read it, which is pic related since it is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And many other NDE books are convincing as well. As one NDE researcher said that he does not know anyone who has read the literature on NDEs who has not been convinced by it.
And NDEs are more real than life. One way this manifests is how much more immersed NDErs are with that reality and with the beings they meet there. As one NDEr remarked:
>"To my surprise, and also distress, they seemed to be capable of knowing everything I was thinking. I didn't know whether I would be capable of controlling my thoughts and keeping anything secret. We began to engage in thought exchange, conversation that was very natural, very easy and casual. I heard their voices clearly and individually. They each had a distinct personality with a voice, but they spoke directly to my mind, not my ears. Everything I thought, they knew. They all seemed to know and understand me very well and to be completely familiar with my thoughts and my past. I didn't feel any desire to ask for someone I had known because they all knew me. Nobody could know me any better. Their love was tangible. You could feel it on your body, you could feel it inside you; their love went right through you. I wish I could explain it to you, but I can't."
From here: https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o
And the NDE convinces everyone who has it, even hardcore skeptics, according to this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist
So this argument is literally airtight, irrefutable proof of an afterlife, because we know now that the NDE will convince anyone. So it would convince you too, and the most skeptical person you know, no matter how skeptical you are of NDEs now, or why. NDErs were just as skeptical as you, and for the same reasons. And their NDEs still convinced them.
Dumbest fricking bullshit ive read,also your greentext means what ? That these peoples that are in your mind knows what you think,wow fricking crazy.
Have some respect for the angel of death,people dont go to heaven or hell when they die they go there when they are judged which happens at the end of time.
>Atheism is bad because it produces some weirdos.
While the religious are a bunch of immoral weirdos who created nothing but nonsensical fairytales and genocide.
I live in a majority Christian country where homosexuals outnumber atheists and abortion was made legal while Christians were in the majority so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but to feed your tautological delusions I am going to recommend the bible.
your picture is misleading, not having a brain virus aka belief in supernatural can and will lead to an advanced society but only if we kill communists who just replaced one mental disease with another.
How does culture wars memes change the simple fact that God does not exist and is a fantasy cooked up in more primitive times when we didn't even know about evolution, the extent of our universe, the existence of dinosaurs or earth's geological past.
How do monotheists cope with the fact that they're atheistic 99.999% of the time, and how the word atheism was first used to describe christians who didn't take part in the religious practices of the Roman empire? Basically they were the fedora tippers of Rome who didn't go to temple on sunday.
Ah yes, the ol "I just believe in one less God than you do". Please explain to me how this invalidates Christianity? If someone is murdered in a village with a population of 4000, since the odds of me finding the murderer are really low, does it therefore follow that there is NO murderer? Try harder materialist. Sad!
Your picture doesn't explain why atheism is wrong, just that it leads to a poor society.
Atheism is reality and reality is bleak.
For the sake of a good society you can keep everyone believing the comforting lie of religion, or you can choose to live in reality and accept the consequences of that.
>Atheism is reality
Maybe to you it is. You can't prove rationally one way or the other if God is real since God is supra-rational.
>supra-rational
new cope just dropped
frick off brownoid
The proof is that it is indisputably irrational to deny the existence of God. To concede the existence of God is literally the only way of maintaining rationality.
Why do you think atheism is reality? On what basis do you assert that no god exists?
Why do you think the non existence of fairies is a reality? On what basis do you assert that there are no fairies?
Fairies are real though.
The Bible teaches that we are in a fallen world , that we are in a fallen state, and that life is suffering. It’s not a big fricking theme park like atheists like to believe. Religion isn’t a cope , atheism is.
You just described that The Bible is cope, as it's providing the idea that there is somewhere a better world (heaven) instead of our current (suffering) one. So basically a cope that there is a better world
Christians must stay wary of sinning, day in and day out, 24/7, 365 days a year for the rest of our lives. We can't frick whoever we want, smoke, get tattoos, do whatever you moronic materialists do without risking eternal damnation. I'm pointing out that the original poster seems to think that Christian life is some easy way out of life, some kind of cope, when in reality atheism is the true cope. We have duties and responsibilities, we can't just sit at home watching Rick and Morty, you homosexual.
Christianity imposes on it's believers a set of rules and guidelines that are simply unachievable for a human, a person will always in some way sin. Now, that builds up a sense of guilt, with which you have to go to repent in some way be that going to priest for salvation or prayer.
And so christians go smoking, getting tattoos(like cross is one of the most popular tattoos), fricking people, because they have always a foundation to fall back on, so they can do that stuff, because the guilt that builds up in them can be released while repenting. Atheism simply doesn't have something to fall back on in case of feelings guilt.
Also feeling of guilt is not based on some kind of moral principle, but on psychology of humans.
You can enjoy doing materialistic stuff precisely, because you have metaphysics to fall back on in case of guilt for enjoying the materialistic stuff. And let's be real are christians really so godfearing and repentfull? Some of them are sure, but most of them are not. So for the majority the shield of seeking salvation by going to priest and praying is simply a cope.
just to add on
You are facing consequences, but replacing the real consequences with fake ones, that can be easly dismissed by prayer, going to priest and so on, and that's a cope
I completely agree that most Christians are not really god fearing, but that doesn't invalidate the teachings of the religion itself. What you are describing is not repentance, it's guilt or remorse.
Repentance in the Greek/Hebrew is a 'change of mind', or to 'change one's purpose', change of heart.
Genuine repentance involves a real desire and commitment to not repeat the sin and, thus, will lead to a person putting accountability measures in place in a concerted effort to conquer the ungodly behavior.
You are a fricking hylic,priest cant give you salvation only Christ can.
"At the Origins of Modern Atheism" by Michael Buckley may be interesting for you
Literature isn‘t about gratifying your 2014-era extremely online reactionary bias. Go back.
I bet you would like your post 2016 neoliberal views affirmed instead homosexual. have a nice day, I hope your mom finds your body.
Atheism has absolutely nothing to do with any of these, why are Americans so reductionist?
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/views-about-abortion/
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/views-about-homosexuality/
It's just a statistical anomaly that Muslims, israelites, and Christians are overwhelmingly not gay or trans, right? And the gays and trannies are overwhelmingly nonreligious, that's just another statistical anomaly?
Because those religions are hostile to gays, trans and the like
Most of the gay people are not atheists, because there is some natural predisposition in atheism towards what? being gay?
In many religions and communities being gay is considered a sin, something wrong, so of course those people are gonna seek closure in communities that are not hostile to them.
So gay people are not gay because they are atheists they are atheists because they are gay. You are simply confusing cause with effect.
>people turn to atheism to live our their hedonistic indulgences
Think about the ramifications of this for more than 2 minutes half-wit.
people who become atheists to spite christians are still christians in spirit
well when your religion executes or otherwise persecuted you throughout history, then yeah it led to closeted homosexuality in these cultures. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you think there's just magically no biological gay people in Muslim countries, or are you intentionally being moronic
>intentionally moronic
>claims gayness is biologically determined
What's the gay gene? What's the biological encoding?
there's no reason to suggest it's not at the moment, it's absolutely not a life anyone would willingly chose. If I could make myself straight, I would in a heartbeat. I know your entire outlook is full of hate and being edgy all the time but you have no idea what it's like.
Its a disease. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathies for the diseased but not treating it for what it is can be bad as well.
There is no such thing as a biologically gay person.
After Virtue by Alisdair McIntyre. If he had folded the mandates of industrialization into that book, it would be perfect. Instead, he blames everything on enlightenment liberalism and the abandonment of classical virtue. Maybe it did, but industrialization did far more damage and that seems to me undeniable.
Wow yet another leftist meme that is just a shitty ripoff of a better rightwing meme and makes no sense
The best book for that purpose would be a book that actually crushes the atheism of those who read it, which is pic related since it is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And many other NDE books are convincing as well. As one NDE researcher said that he does not know anyone who has read the literature on NDEs who has not been convinced by it.
And NDEs are more real than life. One way this manifests is how much more immersed NDErs are with that reality and with the beings they meet there. As one NDEr remarked:
>"To my surprise, and also distress, they seemed to be capable of knowing everything I was thinking. I didn't know whether I would be capable of controlling my thoughts and keeping anything secret. We began to engage in thought exchange, conversation that was very natural, very easy and casual. I heard their voices clearly and individually. They each had a distinct personality with a voice, but they spoke directly to my mind, not my ears. Everything I thought, they knew. They all seemed to know and understand me very well and to be completely familiar with my thoughts and my past. I didn't feel any desire to ask for someone I had known because they all knew me. Nobody could know me any better. Their love was tangible. You could feel it on your body, you could feel it inside you; their love went right through you. I wish I could explain it to you, but I can't."
From here: https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o
And the NDE convinces everyone who has it, even hardcore skeptics, according to this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist
So this argument is literally airtight, irrefutable proof of an afterlife, because we know now that the NDE will convince anyone. So it would convince you too, and the most skeptical person you know, no matter how skeptical you are of NDEs now, or why. NDErs were just as skeptical as you, and for the same reasons. And their NDEs still convinced them.
Dumbest fricking bullshit ive read,also your greentext means what ? That these peoples that are in your mind knows what you think,wow fricking crazy.
Have some respect for the angel of death,people dont go to heaven or hell when they die they go there when they are judged which happens at the end of time.
Refuted by the guy whose NDE sent him to Equestria
>Atheism is bad because it produces some weirdos.
While the religious are a bunch of immoral weirdos who created nothing but nonsensical fairytales and genocide.
I live in a majority Christian country where homosexuals outnumber atheists and abortion was made legal while Christians were in the majority so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make but to feed your tautological delusions I am going to recommend the bible.
your picture is misleading, not having a brain virus aka belief in supernatural can and will lead to an advanced society but only if we kill communists who just replaced one mental disease with another.
>it’s another flamewar thread
How does culture wars memes change the simple fact that God does not exist and is a fantasy cooked up in more primitive times when we didn't even know about evolution, the extent of our universe, the existence of dinosaurs or earth's geological past.
We need a board for religion and to ban religitards from IQfy and IQfy.
How do monotheists cope with the fact that they're atheistic 99.999% of the time, and how the word atheism was first used to describe christians who didn't take part in the religious practices of the Roman empire? Basically they were the fedora tippers of Rome who didn't go to temple on sunday.
Ah yes, the ol "I just believe in one less God than you do". Please explain to me how this invalidates Christianity? If someone is murdered in a village with a population of 4000, since the odds of me finding the murderer are really low, does it therefore follow that there is NO murderer? Try harder materialist. Sad!
>atheism is scene girls, a Black, and kids watching tv
Wut
what the hell does Mike Jones (who?) have to do with atheism?