>bought a copy expecting depressing, grimdark medieval kino straight from the source
>every character wears colorful clothes and quips like a Marvel superhero and is literally on vacation
Gay capeshit for 14th century morons.
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Did you read it in Old English?
middle english, you gay moron. old english is beowulf, pre-conquest. true grimdark kino. 1066 was a mistake, anglo saxons were beaten by literal norman soiboys.
You're such a whiny homosexual lol. I was just curious if you read a modern translation.
My bad, no. Middle english isn’t hard but a gloss helps for the weird words (I don’t know french).
15 year old redditor detected. You're going to think back on this in a few years and cringe.
>1066 was a mistake
Mitchell Heisman's hands wrote this post.
Normans are basedboys? you're def a seething self hating anglo. Lol
Normcuck detected.
hylic hands typed this
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO ENJOY THE QUIPS AND THE COLORS BRO, H-HE INSPIRED SHAKESPEARE, HE—
don’t care, go jerk off to jung and seethe over the demiurge somewhere else, dumb goober.
>opened the board expecting insightful posts
>every OP is a homosexual
Gay facebook surrogate for 21st century autists.
>soiboy newbies still seething
grim
>reads book from the 14th century
>expects book from the 21st century but also written in the 14th century at the same time
this is why zoomers can't into art.
Read Between Two Fires if you want grimdark. Still think you’re moronic for expecting that though.
nta but thanks sounds kino
>>every character wears colorful clothes and quips like a Marvel superhero and is literally on vacation
This is based. Only underages and satanist larpers are obsessed with 'depressing grimdark' themes. Back to IQfy or whichever shithole board you came from.
That's because people liked wearing nice clothes and everyone still enjoyed traveling and talking nonsense for fun? Why do people make out history to be like it was inhabited by aliens instead of humans?
>Why do people make out history to be like it was inhabited by aliens instead of humans?
That would make for an interesting story...
Another thread on the Cantebury tales instead of the hundreds of other pieces of medieval English language literature
The other stuff isn’t that good.
checked homosexual
So you didn’t read it.
Canterbury Tales is the happiest book in the English Canon, tbh.
The most famous story in the book is a dude farting out of a window. Why would you expect some gloomy shit?
Because medieval times wasn’t happy go lucky bullshit. Everybody died in horrible ways and every other woman was being burned alive by the clergy because they were witches. Peasants died of starvation. Kings terrorized their people, knights and layman included. Are you underage or baiting?
>T. Enlightenment stooge
>uhhhhh actually bro it was based and redpilled, /misc/ said so, please believe me bro just trust me dude
kek
You wouldn't know because you are informed by movies in the last 20 years on the matter and not reality
this homie browsed one fashwave thread on /misc/ and thinks he’s an expert on medieval times holy shit
This has nothing to do with /misc/ you stupid fricking autist, everyone in the thread is saying the same thing. Just because by our current standards, that time period would have sucked to live in does not mean they were a miserable depressed bunch. The amount of art, literature, and philosophy / historical accounts that exist should be enough to disprove this already.
>The amount of art, literature, and philosophy / historical accounts
Actually, this would get you laughed out of any university because it’s been debunked beyond belief. Anything worthwhile they stole from Arabs. Read the Golden Ages.
The Bright Ages*, my bad
>muh heckin song of roland is historically accurate bro
No argument. We’re talking about real life, not /misc/ capeshit.
>strawman
yeah you're just trolling like a moron and shitting up the board, i got baited my bad
Please have a nice day
>Actually, this would get you laughed out of any university because it’s been debunked beyond belief. Anything worthwhile they stole from Arabs. Read the Golden Ages.
Which says what about them not being happy within their circumstances
You’re arguing in bad faith, id est, you have no argument. Medieval times wasn’t like you’re heckin capeshit /misc/ revisionism. I’m sorry you’re gullible and swayed by nazis on IQfy, but it’s true.
You're a homosexual. Don't read anything medieval related again, it'll save you the brain cells.
Wouldn’t recommend you to read the Decameron then.
Chaucer was alive in medieval times and he chose to write about cucking and farting out of windows. Farting: farting never changes
Okay, so he wrote 14th century capeshit. What you said doesn’t make him any less of a trash writer. Why are normcucks like this?
>fart jokes are trashy
Sounds like someone's got a little growing up to do
It’s antisemitic drivel. The couplets are lazy and juvenile. There’s no characterization. The wife of bath is pure male projection. Mf didn’t even finish it because he knew it was so bad, and here you are defending it. Grim.
>It’s antisemitic drivel.
Sounds based. I'm going to pick it up now.
Frick this guy. Mods, do your thing.
its always hilarious coming across unexpected antisemitism. especially if its in memoirs and peoples first hand experiences with israelites. antisemitism truly transcends space and time
>Medieval times were soooo dark and depressing dude, like omg it was perpetually grey and there was no color or humor anywhere!
Fricking moron, read an actual history book. Chaucer is a better source for what the middle aged actually looked like, than your shitty fantasy books. People wore colorful clothing as a symbol of wealth and power, told jokes and travelled around. Least of all their heroes, who you would probably consider "capeshit" like St. George, or all of Greco-Roman culture.
Imaging being so moronic you bought one of the most famous comedic poems in the world, and expected GoT. Go back to fantasy, freak.
Why the frick are you so mad you stupid moron? Why go apeshit in response to everyone, go on /b/ if you want to vent idiot. Maybe next time do some research before buying a book instead.
also omfg read a fricking history book, you're 180 degrees, did you mold your middle age images from your teacher (TM approved) and Hollywood? I bet you think the "Dark age" was true due to the medieval period. fricking hell gtfo
Massive cringe, you are supposed to be 18 to post here.
Read Thomas Costain's Pageant of England
well b8d by friend
That was only how it was like for the French during Chaucer’s time
> The century had begun poorly for the French nobles at Courtrai (the "Battle of the Golden Spurs"), where they fled the field and left their infantry to be hacked to pieces; they had also given up their king at the Battle of Poitiers in 1358. To secure their rights, the French privileged classes – the nobility, the merchant elite, and the clergy – forced the peasantry to pay ever-increasing taxes (for example, the taille) and to repair their war-damaged properties under corvée – without compensation. The passage of a law that required the peasants to defend the manor houses of nobles that were emblems of their oppression was the immediate cause of the spontaneous uprising.
> In addition, bands of English, Gascon, German, and Spanish routiers – unemployed mercenaries and bandits employed by the English during outbreaks of the Hundred Years' War – were left uncontrolled to loot, rape, and plunder the lands of northern France almost at will, with the Estates-General powerless to stop them. Many peasants questioned why they should work for an upper class that would not meet its feudal obligation to protect them.
> “On 28 May 1358, in the village of Saint-Leu near Senlis, north of Paris, a group of angry peasants gathered for a meeting. They blamed the aristocracy for their miseries and for the capture of the French king, which troubled all minds’. They asked themselves: what had the “knights and squires done to liberate him? Emotions were running high and needed an outlet. The common people groaned’, wrote the French Carmelite chronicler Jean de Venette, ‘to see the money they had so painfully furnished for the needs of war dissipated in games and ornaments for the nobility. They believed that the nobles had shamed and despoiled the realm, and it would be a good thing to destroy them all.’
> “That night a group of about 100 peasants armed with staves and knives attacked a nearby manor house, broke into it, killed the knight, his wife and children, and burned the place down. It was a spontaneous outbreak of violence, and it spread quickly, attracting new adherents every day, armed with scythes, pitchforks and axes. Soon it had become a popular movement with its own leaders. Thousands rose up all over the Île de France, the Oise valley and parts of Picardy and Champagne. ‘The peasants continued killing and burning without pity or mercy,’ Froissart wrote. ‘They were like enraged dogs.”
> The account of the rising by the contemporary chronicler Jean le Bel includes a description of horrifying violence. According to him, "peasants killed a knight, put him on a spit, and roasted him with his wife and children looking on. After ten or twelve of them raped the lady, they wished to force feed them the roasted flesh of their father and husband and made them then die by a miserable death".
> The peasants involved in the rebellion seem to have lacked any real organization, instead rising up locally as an unstructured mass. Additionally it seems that the rebellion contained some idea that it was possible to rid the world of nobles. Froissart's account portrays the rebels as mindless savages bent on destruction, which they wrought on over 150 noble houses and castles, murdering the families in horrific ways. Outbreaks occurred in Rouen and Rheims, while Senlis and Montdidier were sacked by the peasant army. The bourgeoisie of Beauvais, Senlis, Paris, Amiens, and Meaux, sorely pressed by the court party, accepted the Jacquerie, and the urban underclass were sympathetic.[6]
> At the outset, many nobles panicked, abandoned their homes and goods, and fled with their families to the nearest walled town. The dauphin Charles seemed overwhelmed by it all and in the opening days of the revolt took little decisive action. Then, alarmed that Étienne Marcel and the merchants of Paris appeared sympathetic to the peasants’ grievances, the dauphin sent his family to Meaux, north-east of Paris, for safe-keeping. It was a disastrous error of judgement.
> Thousands of rebels were now ransacking government property in the environs of Paris. Learning that the dauphin’s wife, sister and infant daughter, together with some 300 ladies of the French court and their children, had been placed in a fortress called the Market of Meaux, where they were guarded by only a small force, they converged on the city ‘with great will to do evil’. On 9 June 1358 an army of around 10,000 enraged peasants appeared outside Meaux. The mayor and magistrates, who had sworn loyalty to the dauphin and promised to allow no ‘dishonour’ to his family, completely lost their nerve and opened the gates to the rebels. A frightening horde poured into the city streets and prepared to storm the fortress by sheer weight of numbers. The spectre of rape and death hung over the dauphin’s family.
> But as a torrent of peasants swept towards the fortified Market of Meaux – situated on a strip of land between the river and the canal – a small band of knights was galloping to the rescue. Gaston Fébus and Jean de Grailly, cousins riding home together from crusade in Prussia, had learned of this deadly menace. One was fiercely independent, the other – an architect of the victory at Poitiers – strongly loyal to England; neither man was a friend of the House of Valois. But the danger threatening these women and children overrode all other considerations. For a moment, the spirit of chivalry shone, a comet flaming through a darkened sky.
> A bridge connected the fortress with the rest of the city. As the rebels swarmed onto it, a portcullis rose at its far end, and twenty-five mounted knights, led by De Grailly and Fébus, readied themselves for the charge. Unwisely, the peasants chose to stand and fight on the narrow confines of the bridge, where superiority of numbers counted for little. Wielding “weapons from horseback, the knights cut down their opponents, trampling them, toppling bodies into the river, forcing the rest back across the bridge. They charged again and again, hacking furiously, killing the commoners until they were exhausted from the slaughter. Hundreds were slain and the rest fled into the countryside.
> Meaux became a turning point. The French nobles roused “themselves and pursued the rebel forces. ‘They flung themselves upon hamlets and villages, chased the peasants and miserably slaughtered them,’ an anonymous Norman chronicler recorded bleakly. The uprising collapsed as quickly as it had begun.
> In the ensuing Battle of Mello and in a campaign of terror throughout the Beauvais region, knights, squires, men-at-arms and mercenaries roamed the countryside lynching peasants. Maurice Dommaget notes that the few hundred aristocratic victims of the Jacquerie were known as individuals to the chroniclers, who detailed the outrages practiced upon them.[7] An estimated 20,000 anonymous peasants were killed in the reprisals that followed.
> The mayor of Meaux and other prominent men of the city were hanged. There was a pause, then the force led by the nobles and gentry plundered the city and set fire to Meaux, which burned for two weeks. They then overran the countryside, burning cottages and barns and slaughtering all the peasants they could find.
> The reprisals continued through July and August. Senlis defended itself. Knights of Hainault, Flanders, and Brabant joined in the carnage. Following the declaration of amnesty issued by the Regent on 10 August 1358, such heavy fines were assessed upon the regions that had supported the Jacquerie that a general flight of peasantry ensued.[8]
> The Jacquerie traumatized the aristocracy. In 1872 Louis Raymond de Vericour remarked to the Royal Historical Society, "To this very day the word 'Jacquerie' does not generally give rise to any other idea than that of a bloodthirsty, iniquitous, groundless revolt of a mass of savages. Whenever, on the Continent, any agitation takes place, however slight and legitimate it may be, among the humbler classes, innumerable voices, in higher, privileged, wealthy classes, proclaim that society is threatened with a Jacquerie".[9]
>Everybody died in horrible ways and every other woman was being burned alive by the clergy because they were witches
Protestant detected. Witch hunts are a preoccupation of Western Europe sans those of the Catholic Church.
All religion is a scam, thanks for trying to rope me into your creepy spiritual dick measuring nonsense tho
>Makes incorrect historical statement
>atheist mald when corrected
reddit be leaking
>uhhh the statement is wrong because i said so bro, BRO, you have to trust me i’m begging you
i accept your concession
>can't cope, begins to hallucinate
meds, take em
Either this is a shamerful bait, or you are historically illiterate. Read actual medieval literature and please stop watching tv.
Because it isn't a thing yet you moron. There's medieval lit that touches on dark things but not in any kind of disconnected and confused fetishism as epitomised by grimdark
>there’s medieval lit that touches on dark things just trust me dude please believe me i’m begging you
>ok, name some
>NAH FRICK YOU IM NOT GONNA NAME ANY YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE ME BRO
Why are newbies like this
>Complains about newbie
>Created the most newbie thread possible
You didn't even ask him "ok, name some" you disgusting nonwhite. Try Nibelungenlied.
>NOOOOOO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BRO THE WHITE MAN PROSPERED DURING MEDIEVAL TIMES EVEN THOUGH HE DIED OF THE PLAGUE AT 12 AND COULDNT READ OR WRITE, /misc/ SAID SO, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME BRO PLEASE
read history books homosexual. that's all you have to do. why are you so mad? you didn't answer. why buy a book if you have no clue about it? you did not answer. why do you have the mental image of medieval time period being dark gritty sad grim etc etc? you did not answer. we are on IQfy what's that got to do with /misc/? Or is it because I told you to actually read history books instead of watching hollywood movies on the subject?
you're being a fricking moron of an unprecedented level, you have no fricking idea about the medieval period on any subject but only images through pop media. I would die of embarrassment.
Have sex!
Consumerist-brain moment.
>can’t actually debunk the claim
Grim. leave, subhuman.
Is it fiction? I don’t read fiction. (i’m not moronic or emotionally stunted)
OP is either a massive moron or a decent troll, which would still make him a massive moron since you could be spending your time on useful things instead
Like what exactly? Genuinely curious, self-inflated incels on IQfy are very entertaining.
wtf are you on about. It's not at all 'capeshit' unless you mean it is entertaining.
>bought a copy expecting depressing, grimdark medieval kino straight from the source
Lol, brain damaged zoomer moron
It's bait.
Kino
14th century people didn't need to validate their masculinity through edgy grimdark fantasy. Their reality was already grimdark
thread full of homosexuals jesus christ
And you’re one of them, /misc/gay
i dont browse pol im no spic
>depressing, grimdark medieval kino
That is an enlightment/anglo/american invention — not shit your primary sources show a colorful society
OP I got you
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visio_Tnugdali#The_English_Vision_of_Tundale
https://d.lib.rochester.edu/teams/text/foster-three-purgatory-poems-vision-of-tundale
rampyng.
He wold a flown from that syght,
But he wyst never whydur he myght.
Thes fowle fendys cam to hym ther.
The sowle for ferd made drury chyr,
And that was full lytull wondor;
He went to a byn ryvon asondur.
Thei wer so loghtly on to loke,
Hym thoghtte the eyrthe undur hym schoke,
Her bodys wer bothe black and fowle;
Full gryssly con thei on hym gowle.
Her ynee wer brode and brannyng as fyr;
All thei wer full off angur and yre.
Her mowthus wer wyde; thei gapud fast.
The fyre owt of her mowthus thei cast.
Thei wer full of fyr within.
Her lyppus honget byneythe her chyne.
Her tethe wer long, tho throtus wyde,
Her tongus honged owt full syde.
On fete and hondus thei had gret nayles,
And grette hornes and atteryng taylys.
Her naylys wer kene as grondon styll;
Scharpur thyng myght no mon fyll.
Of hem cam the fowlest stynk
That any erthyly mon myght thynk.
With her naylys in that plas
Ychon cracched other in the face.
Thei gayhtton ycheon with odur and stryvon,
And ychon odur all toryvon.
Hit was a wondur grysely syght
To see how thei weryn all ydyght.
In tho word was no mon alive
That cowthe so grysely a syghth dyscryve.
Full grymly thei on hym staryd,
And all atonus thei cryd and rored
And seyd, "Gow abowte we yond wykyd gost
That hathe ey don owre cownsel most
Also some more kino.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Child%27s_Ballads/26
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troilus_and_Criseyde
and Translations exist of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_and_Saturn
Bruh I thought Cantebury Tales was finna be based and redpilled but it was cringe and reddit af fr on god on gang