it can write novel things. but only if you can design them. I had it write a python script for blender I am absolutely sure nobody but me had a reason to do before. I dont think I have any images of the finished product laying around but basically it's a tile parser that parses tiles for UV faces.
>no-one has ever had to reflect an image before
Shiggydiggy
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yes I'm sure this never been done before...
im sorry you have bad reading comprehension, but I admit it's mostly my fault for assuming you would read my post instead of look at the image, scratch your head, and go back to chimping about ai, since it's the only thing you know how to do.
2 weeks ago
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> posts irrelevant image > IM sORry yOu HAVe bAd rEadINg COMPreHEnSiOn
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>posts irrelevant image and says as much >two idiots dont read and rush to jerk off to their uninformed word salads >get called out for it >n-no actually it was your fault see because
Black person tongue my anus.
>in addition to contributing to upstream python, we >* maintained a stable version of python within google, and made sure that everything in the monorepo worked with it. in my time on the team we moved from 2.7 to 3.6, then incrementally to 3.11, each update taking months to over a year because the rule at google is if you check any code in, you are responsible for every single breakage it causes > >* maintained tools to keep thousands of third party packages constantly updated from their open source versions, with patch queues for the ones that needed google-specific changes > >* had highly customised versions of tools like pylint and black, targeted to google's style guide and overall codebase > >* contributed to pybind11, and maintained tools for c++ integration > >* developed and maintained build system rules for python, including a large effort to move python rules to pure starlark code rather than having them entangled in the blaze/bazel core engine > >* developed and maintained a typechecker (pytype) that would do inference on code without type annotations, and work over very large projects with a one-file-at-a-time architecture (this was my primary job at google, ama) > >* performed automated refactorings across hundreds of millions of lines of code > >and that was just the dev portion of our jobs. [...]
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176338
Nope, just an obscure tenured team headed by some guy named Atlas who did nothing but hold up the planet all day. He's been an underperformer for ages.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How has he underperformed?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Had Atlas done his job the west would not have fallen. Sure, Atlas only needed to kill all people in Israel, a few billions in Africa and India, fix international relationships and culture, develop immortality, cure cancer, resurrect some dead great people from the past and probably do some programming while doing the above, but hey: unless you are bombing Israel, while having cure for cancer developed on 1 laptop on the right and developing backend on Django on 2nd laptop on the right, you do not deserve the position of junior python dev.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>israel isRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL
obsessed
you should have a nice day tbh
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
its only 1 of the 3 places i would bomb if i could.
>a programming language so shit that you need 10 people working full time to make it work
LMAO
HOW CAN PYTHON BE SUCH A JOKE??? >in my time on the team we moved from 2.7 to 3.6, then incrementally to 3.11, each update taking months to over a year >maintained tools to keep thousands of third party packages constantly updated from their open source versions >had highly customised versions of tools like pylint and black, >developed and maintained build system rules for python, >developed and maintained a typechecker (pytype)
It's literally ALL things that normal languages do out of the box!
Holy shit. I haven't laughed like this in a long while. I will link this thread on the next Pytoddler shill thread.
Really? I work at a place with ~1k people and we have at least 10 working on this kind of tooling. Especially trying to scale out builds and test pipelines.
>It's a tough day when everyone you work with directly, including your manager, is laid off -- excuse me, "had their roles reduced", and you're asked to onboard their replacements, people told to take those very same roles just in a different country who are not any happier about it
Wow, one month of salary to get fricked over and be a good little cuck? You should sign anything before and it shouldn't have any clause about training. After that, tell them tough luck and go slack off. Not my problem, I'm not training my replacement and if you wanna fight in court about my severance I'll win. Or Ill tell my replacement wrong things to frick with them.
2 weeks ago
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teach your replacement to always implement everything from scratch and copy solutions from stack overflow over using standard library or functions available in dependencies, that'll show them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
> one month.
Usually these places are a minimum 3, if not 6-12 if you're on good terms and specialized enough.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wagies like this fricking moron can't comprehend severance.
holy shit google really is fricked
the company is going to be 100% sars by 2030
i wouldnt hold google stock
days of growth are now over. time for penny-pinching micro-managing sars to take over
>Python dev >verifiable gayMAN on resume
Companies are literally forming a line right now to try instantly snatching these guys.
It is literally impossible to stay unemployed with this combination.
>Companies are literally forming a line right now to try instantly snatching these guys.
Companies are not "forming a line" to hire former Google employees because they can't afford them. Seriously. It's cheaper to ship the work to a room full of a pajeets or hire a few visa chinks to tinker with AI so the work can be automated. If Google is laying off swaths of *Python* developers, it's pretty much over.
They're moving the jobs to Munich. Dev salaries were already low in the EU and have been dropping the last couple of years. They're getting non-Asians at a cheap price.
>entire move is predicated on the management's assumption that pajeets will do well with maintaining the code >they really haven't learned yet from other companies >worst thing is that this is their internal tooling
time to turn the entire tooling codebase into Designated Shitting Repos
Maintaining codebases is the hardest part of any software job and no one wants to do it because it's a literal janny job except it requires you to rethink every commit you make because unless your org has an excellent CI/CD setup, you're going to frick things up. AI can help, yes, but it's still very premature and its best use case is to assist the developer in reading over the docs or asking for a starting point in debugging. It will never take our jobs because you need developers to actually program shit.
Reason why I quit this whole coding shit ( in terms of jobseeking ) , if dudes with CS degrees and work experience are getting sacked then where does that leave me lmao
it's just bad economy + techbros grifting hysteria. Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers because they're about to find out that the majority of junior devs that graduated within the last 2-3 years are moronic. Go improve your skillset, aim for a niche area, and don't pay heed to any mainstream news whatsoever.
>Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers because they're about to find out that the majority of junior devs that graduated within the last 2-3 years are moronic.
If anon doesn't have industry experience yet, he'll be even more fricked down the line than he is now. The "learn to code" bubble has popped.
>Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers
In 2-3 years they'll be in another field or not interested in joining. Just like how the aviation industry fired all their staff during covid and now they can't get them back. You burn people and they stay gone
No one ITT is even reading what is actually happening >Google has laid off their Python Foundation team and asked them to train their replacements who will be in the Munich office.
They're aren't getting rid of Python, merely offshoring the jobs
>Biden spends 80b of your tax dollars on Ukraine >no law exists to make it illegal for us companies to offshore jobs >you get fired >nobody in your sector is unionized
Reason why I quit this whole coding shit ( in terms of jobseeking ) , if dudes with CS degrees and work experience are getting sacked then where does that leave me lmao
Damn, pytype was a really great tool. I once spend a week comparing all available checkers and pytype was practically best one available.
It's a shame to abandon such a great project.
>Industry becomes bloated due to L2C meme, COVID pumping tech stocks >Inevitably start regressing to mean
This is good and required in the long term, tough for the millions of tech bros who got on the L2C train, but that's life.
With this skillset it's more likely 200/year for american and 100-150/year for german so I don't really understand how google can benefit from this arrangement
Based. Frick those overpaid man children. Googleniggrs get paid more than real professions like doctors and lawyers to go to a glorified adult daycare, and they thought that was sustainable?
No, you work for me and the other shareholders, and we say the party’s over. Thanks for making me richer lol.
> Googlers get paid more than real professions like doctors and lawyers
Ok and? Now they got fired and the CEO makes all that money for doing nothing instead? How is that better
>daily demoralization thread
Thanks OP, I was going to make it but you now I don't need to. Demoralize these homosexuals some more, nu-IQfy IQfyners are subhuman.
>Python
ChatGPT can write Python code
Can it write novel Python code or just things other have written before?
it can write novel things. but only if you can design them. I had it write a python script for blender I am absolutely sure nobody but me had a reason to do before. I dont think I have any images of the finished product laying around but basically it's a tile parser that parses tiles for UV faces.
yes I'm sure this never been done before...
>no-one has ever had to reflect an image before
Shiggydiggy
im sorry you have bad reading comprehension, but I admit it's mostly my fault for assuming you would read my post instead of look at the image, scratch your head, and go back to chimping about ai, since it's the only thing you know how to do.
> posts irrelevant image
> IM sORry yOu HAVe bAd rEadINg COMPreHEnSiOn
>posts irrelevant image and says as much
>two idiots dont read and rush to jerk off to their uninformed word salads
>get called out for it
>n-no actually it was your fault see because
Black person tongue my anus.
That's entirely the point of the thread you stupid twat
it's needful to calm down, sir
ChatGPT has a specialized sub-AI just for Python.
what is the use case of a python team?
>in addition to contributing to upstream python, we
>* maintained a stable version of python within google, and made sure that everything in the monorepo worked with it. in my time on the team we moved from 2.7 to 3.6, then incrementally to 3.11, each update taking months to over a year because the rule at google is if you check any code in, you are responsible for every single breakage it causes
>
>* maintained tools to keep thousands of third party packages constantly updated from their open source versions, with patch queues for the ones that needed google-specific changes
>
>* had highly customised versions of tools like pylint and black, targeted to google's style guide and overall codebase
>
>* contributed to pybind11, and maintained tools for c++ integration
>
>* developed and maintained build system rules for python, including a large effort to move python rules to pure starlark code rather than having them entangled in the blaze/bazel core engine
>
>* developed and maintained a typechecker (pytype) that would do inference on code without type annotations, and work over very large projects with a one-file-at-a-time architecture (this was my primary job at google, ama)
>
>* performed automated refactorings across hundreds of millions of lines of code
>
>and that was just the dev portion of our jobs. [...]
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176338
am I reading this right the team only had 10 people?
>be python dev
>only responsibility is developing and maintaining python
>be fired
womp womp
Actually solving backwards compatibility? Just have a million containers and virtual environments bro.
So they didn't produce anything?
Spoken like a real manager
Nope, just an obscure tenured team headed by some guy named Atlas who did nothing but hold up the planet all day. He's been an underperformer for ages.
How has he underperformed?
Had Atlas done his job the west would not have fallen. Sure, Atlas only needed to kill all people in Israel, a few billions in Africa and India, fix international relationships and culture, develop immortality, cure cancer, resurrect some dead great people from the past and probably do some programming while doing the above, but hey: unless you are bombing Israel, while having cure for cancer developed on 1 laptop on the right and developing backend on Django on 2nd laptop on the right, you do not deserve the position of junior python dev.
>israel isRAEL ISRAEL ISRAEL
obsessed
you should have a nice day tbh
its only 1 of the 3 places i would bomb if i could.
>a programming language so shit that you need 10 people working full time to make it work
LMAO
HOW CAN PYTHON BE SUCH A JOKE???
>in my time on the team we moved from 2.7 to 3.6, then incrementally to 3.11, each update taking months to over a year
>maintained tools to keep thousands of third party packages constantly updated from their open source versions
>had highly customised versions of tools like pylint and black,
>developed and maintained build system rules for python,
>developed and maintained a typechecker (pytype)
It's literally ALL things that normal languages do out of the box!
Holy shit. I haven't laughed like this in a long while. I will link this thread on the next Pytoddler shill thread.
you literally never wrote a single line of code in your life, let alone ever had a job
this is the least employed comment currently on fourchan
True!
Really? I work at a place with ~1k people and we have at least 10 working on this kind of tooling. Especially trying to scale out builds and test pipelines.
Heh
"Python team"?
they all worked on cpython
They were snakes
good luck creating an AI that can deal with Microsoft's bullshit HA!
>It's a tough day when everyone you work with directly, including your manager, is laid off -- excuse me, "had their roles reduced", and you're asked to onboard their replacements, people told to take those very same roles just in a different country who are not any happier about it
Why would you onboard your replacement? Don't. What are they gonna do, fire you? Suck my wiener. Not surprised, most techgays are spinless losers.
Severance beyond the minimum required by law usually comes with strings attached like training your replacement.
Wow, one month of salary to get fricked over and be a good little cuck? You should sign anything before and it shouldn't have any clause about training. After that, tell them tough luck and go slack off. Not my problem, I'm not training my replacement and if you wanna fight in court about my severance I'll win. Or Ill tell my replacement wrong things to frick with them.
teach your replacement to always implement everything from scratch and copy solutions from stack overflow over using standard library or functions available in dependencies, that'll show them
> one month.
Usually these places are a minimum 3, if not 6-12 if you're on good terms and specialized enough.
Wagies like this fricking moron can't comprehend severance.
>you're asked to onboard their replacements,
>very same roles just in a different country
Based Sundar sir, bringing more glory to his people.
holy shit google really is fricked
the company is going to be 100% sars by 2030
i wouldnt hold google stock
days of growth are now over. time for penny-pinching micro-managing sars to take over
>Python dev
>verifiable gayMAN on resume
Companies are literally forming a line right now to try instantly snatching these guys.
It is literally impossible to stay unemployed with this combination.
>Companies are literally forming a line right now to try instantly snatching these guys.
Companies are not "forming a line" to hire former Google employees because they can't afford them. Seriously. It's cheaper to ship the work to a room full of a pajeets or hire a few visa chinks to tinker with AI so the work can be automated. If Google is laying off swaths of *Python* developers, it's pretty much over.
> I won't say which MAAN_, but the recruiters are half based in India now.
the fire is rising you dug your grave no lie in it.
Why didn't they lay off C++ team yet? C++ is useless, embrace Rust bro.
The Rust team maintain 41% vacancy rate they have to supplement with the C++ devs.
why not just hire Rust programmers 170% more often to offset the 41%?
Didn't google's C++ team develop Go and replace it with that?
They're moving the jobs to Munich. Dev salaries were already low in the EU and have been dropping the last couple of years. They're getting non-Asians at a cheap price.
you know you can work for yourself, dont have to be some big corporate dick sucker
im starting to get sad
>entire move is predicated on the management's assumption that pajeets will do well with maintaining the code
>they really haven't learned yet from other companies
>worst thing is that this is their internal tooling
time to turn the entire tooling codebase into Designated Shitting Repos
>use ai to write tools that help maintain the codebase
Maintaining codebases is the hardest part of any software job and no one wants to do it because it's a literal janny job except it requires you to rethink every commit you make because unless your org has an excellent CI/CD setup, you're going to frick things up. AI can help, yes, but it's still very premature and its best use case is to assist the developer in reading over the docs or asking for a starting point in debugging. It will never take our jobs because you need developers to actually program shit.
it's just bad economy + techbros grifting hysteria. Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers because they're about to find out that the majority of junior devs that graduated within the last 2-3 years are moronic. Go improve your skillset, aim for a niche area, and don't pay heed to any mainstream news whatsoever.
>Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers because they're about to find out that the majority of junior devs that graduated within the last 2-3 years are moronic.
If anon doesn't have industry experience yet, he'll be even more fricked down the line than he is now. The "learn to code" bubble has popped.
>Give it 2-3 years and these fricking morons that sacked programmers will come crawling back for experienced programmers
In 2-3 years they'll be in another field or not interested in joining. Just like how the aviation industry fired all their staff during covid and now they can't get them back. You burn people and they stay gone
>aim for a niche area
and what area would be that?
>Maintaining codebases is the hardest part of any software job
OP has never had a software job
No one ITT is even reading what is actually happening
>Google has laid off their Python Foundation team and asked them to train their replacements who will be in the Munich office.
They're aren't getting rid of Python, merely offshoring the jobs
effectively the same outcome for americans
>Biden spends 80b of your tax dollars on Ukraine
>no law exists to make it illegal for us companies to offshore jobs
>you get fired
>nobody in your sector is unionized
But hey, at least you have gay pride month.
>muh biden
Go back to your containment board
Which part of his post was wrong?
Reason why I quit this whole coding shit ( in terms of jobseeking ) , if dudes with CS degrees and work experience are getting sacked then where does that leave me lmao
I better have unlimited context by next quarter OR ELSE
>"hacker" "news" screenshot
how is this different from a twitter screenshot
Damn, pytype was a really great tool. I once spend a week comparing all available checkers and pytype was practically best one available.
It's a shame to abandon such a great project.
>Industry becomes bloated due to L2C meme, COVID pumping tech stocks
>Inevitably start regressing to mean
This is good and required in the long term, tough for the millions of tech bros who got on the L2C train, but that's life.
Why Would Google Hire Americans For 150k/Year When Europeans Do It For 50k?
With this skillset it's more likely 200/year for american and 100-150/year for german so I don't really understand how google can benefit from this arrangement
Europeans only work 3 days a week for 6 hours.
Americans do 40-50 hours a week
>Europeans only work 3 days a week for 6 hours
Bullshit
>python team
nothing of value was lost
>And for no reason, Gemini is killed off by google in 2027
Based. Frick those overpaid man children. Googleniggrs get paid more than real professions like doctors and lawyers to go to a glorified adult daycare, and they thought that was sustainable?
No, you work for me and the other shareholders, and we say the party’s over. Thanks for making me richer lol.
> Googlers get paid more than real professions like doctors and lawyers
Ok and? Now they got fired and the CEO makes all that money for doing nothing instead? How is that better
>doctors
hahahahahahahahah
>daily demoralization thread
Thanks OP, I was going to make it but you now I don't need to. Demoralize these homosexuals some more, nu-IQfy IQfyners are subhuman.
YOU BLOODY BASTARD b***h
Give full context and not just a screen cap of what will draw attention