Any works that have genuine insights into the relations between man and hypermodern society? Or are they just “fun” reads?
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Any works that have genuine insights into the relations between man and hypermodern society? Or are they just “fun” reads?
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None have yet to be made. Why not write one for us.
Dopey genre fiction where techbro nerds could reimagine themselves as 80s action moviestars. They're very ordinary works.
If you're into comics, Transmetropolitan
Dick, Gibson, Nick Land, and Burroughs and Ballard as precursors. For movie, Tetsuo the Iron Man, Videodrome, and Parallax View as precursor
why parallax view?
Cyberpunk is only fun read, if you want some serious insights on hypermodernism you should read jaques ellul or uncle ted.
What about Land and Mark Fisher?
land is the quintessential philosopher on hypermodernity. if you are interested in the subject at all you must read him. fisher is more engaged in cultural criticism and goes into commie digressions but he's important too. if you want more look into the other ccru members. fed ted is a meme, not a worthwhile philosopher just an incel manifesto don't waste your time and don't get yourself on a watchlist
This is the wrong site to ask this question, you need to head to arisuchan.
Land and Fisher are fast food philosophers. The whole CCRU "cyber theory" trend was just banal French leftoid theory with techbro level internet jargon sprinkled in to give it a cool technological aesthetic. e.g. Capitalist Realism is just a rehash of Gramsci with campy buzzwords shoved in to make it new and edgy. None of these people understood the tech they wrote about which is why none of them predicted something like social media happening. They are all just nobodies now with Land shitposting on Twitter because he thinks its cool with the kids.
> was just banal French leftoid theory with techbro level internet jargon sprinkled in to give it a cool technological aesthetic
First off its not "banal", it's the whole french post-structuralist scene that close to defined postt-ww2 philosophy. If that's banal for you then I don't know what isn't. Second they do talk about the tech, it's not an "aesthetic". Technology is essential in land's writings, It's..
everywhere. Did you actually read him? He's not a stemgay writing a paper so it's about the consequences and meaning of tech trends not about how a specific technology works.
>Capitalist Realism is just a rehash of Gramsci with campy buzzwords shoved in to make it new and edgy.
I agree that capitalist realism is overrated. It's still worth reading even then for a modern perspective, rather than the views of an early 20th century philosopher like gramsci
>which is why none of them predicted something like social media
This is unreasonable, either you are in bath faith or are moronic. Show me one philosopher who predicted social media. Though land did talk about "digital hypermedia", the further schizophrenization of mass media and politics due to cybernetics and new technology and the instability that would cause, for example.
>They are all just nobodies now with Land shitposting on Twitter because he thinks its cool with the kids.
This is just irrelevant. And he has disavowed his old writings since entering the "twitter nrx boomer ranting about trannies" phase
Land, Fisher and the CCRU are your run of the mill academic French influenced theorists, they incorporate discussions of hacker culture, computing and the internet to spice up their work and make it appear more radical and cutting edge than it actually is. Fanged Noumena is a good book, but halfway through it turns into unreadable jibberish. Fisher just regurgitates other peoples ideas but in that flashy high theory writing style. Deleuze, Deleuze, Baudrillard etc were great thinkers, but guys like Land and Fisher aren't.
>Show me one philosopher who predicted social media
McLuhan did and even if they weren't philosophers so did Licklider and Robert Taylor.
>he has disavowed his old writings since entering the "twitter nrx boomer ranting about trannies" phase
To me that's just proof he's an opportunist who latches himself onto whatever seems radical, underground and edgy. In the 90s, that was cyberpunk, hackers, and the internet, today it's right wing mumbo jumbo, troony bashing and pandering to /misc/tards.
Neoliberalism is just liberalism. Gramsci was already familiar with the kind of extreme policies the "neoliberals" would implement because they aren't new at all, they're the things extreme liberals have always believed in and done since the 19th century. Fisher might give us a more modern take, but your really wasting your time and might as well just read more established thinkers instead especially if they have a lot more to offer. Even Fisher's famous blogposts stink, he was a pseudo-intellectual op-ed writer.
gramsci wasn't even here for the cold war, how the frick is a commentary on the culture of 21st century neoliberal society a rehash of him? inspired? maybe. but that's all philosophy.
>arisuchan
I don't know why you are preaching the site to normalgays on here. But in any case, in case you didn't know, it's been gone for years.
Artraud and Terayama isnt cyberpunk but carries the spirit that would become prevalent in eroguro and japanese cyberpunk works.
>japanese cyberpunk
I’ve only seen some of the movies. Have they written anything good that isn’t manga?
The Ring novels have weird computer shit in them though they're not exactly cyberpunk and are basically Stephen King level
Cyberpunk isn't really about the general relations between man and hypermodern society, that's the background flavoring if anything. Cyberpunk specifically asks "what IS a person?" in a world where technology has significantly complicated the answer to that question.
>Cyberpunk specifically asks "what IS a person?"
So Stalker is Cyberpunk?
Can you read?
that movie sucks
This
Second it. Worst fricking piece of shit movie I've seen.
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