i mean narrative authors >thomas paine
not a narrative author, debatably top-tier >nietzsche
his father died when he was like 4 and he was prolly depressed in the latter half of his life; so he might've have been depressed throughout his life and specifically b4 he wrote zarathustra
dog how old are you. ralph was like severely and iteratively depressed. he was medically bipolar. trying to keep a good attitude about things only goes so far and in his case did not suffice to counteract a medial and structural issue of his psychology and neurology, doofus/
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Probably older than you. Emerson could always keep his spirits up by going into or contemplating nature. I’m not saying he was never dealt significant blows. I know he was devastated over his first wife’s death to the point he dug her up. At least that’s what he wrote in his journal. Also his son’s and brother’s death. Despite this he found a way to make his life worthwhile. He focused on the individual instead of the mass. Writing is an introspective endeavor, which generally deals with ruminating on one’s issues. That’s why it shows in literature so much. Again, everyone is depressed at some time. But it’s the sum and not the parts that count. You are very naive if you don’t think everyone deals with ups and downs. It’s all perspective
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ok but nothing thus far has answered my question. I'm curious whether there's any big time, top tier author or poet out there who hasn't had major depressive episodes; and Emerson certainly has.
Nah. Above a certain threshold of intelligence you’re just going to have issues with either depression or bipolar. High intelligence is a disease state, like being 8’ tall. Being a great writer is somewhere above that threshold.
bipolar's a pretty inborn medical condition, that might correlate with intelligence but is definitely not some epiphenomenon thereof. medical depression likewise is unnecessary but definitely correlates with fictive capability. Guys like John Von Neumann, Terry Tao and marcus aurelius, all of whom were exceptionally intelligent had no reported depressive episodes.
Scanning it he effectively just includes low neuroticism in his own personal headcanon of genius. It’s a very nice headcanon but it has nothing to do with anything.
Depression and bipolar are midwit issues, this is known for everyone who is at least slightly observant. High IQ people are extremely more prone to sociopathy. By high I mean 130+, though there is no specific threshold after which the rate of sociopathy rises starkly, at least I am not aware of it due to limited sample size.
There is a negative correlation between sociopathy and IQ. If your personal experiences seem otherwise it means you are very sensitive to superficial charm and mistaking it for intelligence.
i mean maybe; i cant find any reports of depression with him.
still looking for someone more influential/arguably better than he is w/o major depressive incidents though
i mean maybe; i cant find any reports of depression with him.
still looking for someone more influential/arguably better than he is w/o major depressive incidents though
Tolstoy was one of the greatest of all time and not only dwelled in the peace of Christ, but he delivered the truth from scripture in defense of the poor and peasants which made him very controversial for his time
The faithful Christian has already found the path to contentedness and is compelled by God to go out into the world and help others
To add, Hemingway studied Tolstoy among others in Paris to achieve literary greatness
Yet he considered atheism a point of intellectual pride and ended up blowing his brains out with shotgun, despite achieving great wealth and literary fame in his own lifetime
…isn’t Tolstoy the one that wrote a whole thing about existential depression being like hanging by a rope over a pit with two mice chewing at it or something?
If you're not constantly fighting the urge to an hero you're never gonna make it
Nietzsche
Thomas Paine
Ridiculous
i mean narrative authors
>thomas paine
not a narrative author, debatably top-tier
>nietzsche
his father died when he was like 4 and he was prolly depressed in the latter half of his life; so he might've have been depressed throughout his life and specifically b4 he wrote zarathustra
Ralph Waldo Emerson always tried to keep a positive attitude
ralphy had bipolar and was neverhteless depressed throughout his life
Not sure if you realize it, but life has ups and downs. Everyone feels depressed at some time or other. It’s the attitude you take that counts
dog how old are you. ralph was like severely and iteratively depressed. he was medically bipolar. trying to keep a good attitude about things only goes so far and in his case did not suffice to counteract a medial and structural issue of his psychology and neurology, doofus/
Probably older than you. Emerson could always keep his spirits up by going into or contemplating nature. I’m not saying he was never dealt significant blows. I know he was devastated over his first wife’s death to the point he dug her up. At least that’s what he wrote in his journal. Also his son’s and brother’s death. Despite this he found a way to make his life worthwhile. He focused on the individual instead of the mass. Writing is an introspective endeavor, which generally deals with ruminating on one’s issues. That’s why it shows in literature so much. Again, everyone is depressed at some time. But it’s the sum and not the parts that count. You are very naive if you don’t think everyone deals with ups and downs. It’s all perspective
ok but nothing thus far has answered my question. I'm curious whether there's any big time, top tier author or poet out there who hasn't had major depressive episodes; and Emerson certainly has.
Nah. Above a certain threshold of intelligence you’re just going to have issues with either depression or bipolar. High intelligence is a disease state, like being 8’ tall. Being a great writer is somewhere above that threshold.
bipolar's a pretty inborn medical condition, that might correlate with intelligence but is definitely not some epiphenomenon thereof. medical depression likewise is unnecessary but definitely correlates with fictive capability. Guys like John Von Neumann, Terry Tao and marcus aurelius, all of whom were exceptionally intelligent had no reported depressive episodes.
You have no idea how IQ and mental illnesses work. Read Paul Cooijmans and his findings on his website.
Scanning it he effectively just includes low neuroticism in his own personal headcanon of genius. It’s a very nice headcanon but it has nothing to do with anything.
Depression and bipolar are midwit issues, this is known for everyone who is at least slightly observant. High IQ people are extremely more prone to sociopathy. By high I mean 130+, though there is no specific threshold after which the rate of sociopathy rises starkly, at least I am not aware of it due to limited sample size.
There is a negative correlation between sociopathy and IQ. If your personal experiences seem otherwise it means you are very sensitive to superficial charm and mistaking it for intelligence.
Wouldn't Murakami fit this description?
i mean maybe; i cant find any reports of depression with him.
still looking for someone more influential/arguably better than he is w/o major depressive incidents though
>top tier
Gene Wolfe
maybe, same deal as in
Will these charts solve the pain within?
Tolstoy was one of the greatest of all time and not only dwelled in the peace of Christ, but he delivered the truth from scripture in defense of the poor and peasants which made him very controversial for his time
The faithful Christian has already found the path to contentedness and is compelled by God to go out into the world and help others
To add, Hemingway studied Tolstoy among others in Paris to achieve literary greatness
Yet he considered atheism a point of intellectual pride and ended up blowing his brains out with shotgun, despite achieving great wealth and literary fame in his own lifetime
Atheism and depression go hand-in-hand
Christ is the way to everlasting peace
…isn’t Tolstoy the one that wrote a whole thing about existential depression being like hanging by a rope over a pit with two mice chewing at it or something?