It seems the US overplayed its hand. China's gov now issued ban on US chips. Domestic companies now set to profit billions and grow larger
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China bans US computer chips
It seems the US overplayed its hand. China's gov now issued ban on US chips. Domestic companies now set to profit billions and grow larger
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What other chips can they use?
They make billions of ARM chips. Kirin line of chips for smartphones/smart devices/servers/etc. There also seems to be some new RISC development in China which has the US asking to ban RISC tech from going to China. Along with some older AMD partnered company that produces x86
Russia did this years ago. It seems obvious to not use US chips in important systems.
China and Russia both have domestic chip industries. For government purposes, you don't need mass manufacturing, high yield efficiency, or even profitability. What you need is the ability to produce it at all. Both Russia and China at boutique volumes can produce chips equal to anything out of AMD, Apple, or Intel.
>produce chips equal to anything out of AMD, Apple, or Intel
Doubt.
We know they can produce ARM chips that are okay with older gen intel/amd chips, but not the latest. Which is okay for office works, servers, cloud shits, etc. But still not top of the line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDMC_Supercomputer
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDMC_Supercomputer
This doesn't mean their chips are equal. Just that they can build a super expensive super computer out of a bunch of their shit chips. Cope.
It just needs to be able to run their Excel equivalent (Excerr?) and maybe a few databases. Whatever they can push out will do.
The Russian government doesn't use domestic chips, Elbrus didn't pass the requirements before the war; they use grey market stuff.
Besides, Elbrus are manufactured by TSMC, there's no such thing as a "domestic Russian chip industry"; there's one (1) founder that can make very low volume chips at something like 45 nm.
>Elbrus are manufactured by TSMC
Most of you don't seem to understand how chip manufacturing works. It's not actually that difficult to manufacture chips, for countries with serious industry and experience (Russia, for one). The thing about TSMC is they are able to do it more efficiently - their unique ability is in manufacturing chips at high volume with high yield. This is a serious advantage for which they deserve much credit.
If you only need a small number of chips and the commercial profitability is not a factor, this doesn't matter. For secure government/military purposes a serious country will do boutique manufacturing - creating basically one-off runs to make the chips they need. You keep this in house so you can ensure security of the entire process. You CAN produce very high power and advanced chips, it's just that your equipment can not do it at a rate and yield that would make it possible to sell them in smartphones and things like that.
The only reason people doubt Russia's ability in the chip industry is because they don't know the first thing about Russian science, industry, or history.
Yeah it's like they kept parity with the West with computers during the Cold War... Oh wait. That is the prime reason and exactly why people doubt their ability to inhouse everything. We're talking about the fact they failed at all to do 65nm domestically at any scale and that their best procvess is 90nm.
>Elbrus didn't pass the requirements before the war
False. Some israelites running Sberbank didn't want to be forced to buy Elbrus servers so they tanked a demo. Guess what happened later?
Elbrus is running on all secure government servers already.
LooooooooooooongSon
Bri'ish ones
Backdoorpilled
>IT SEEM DA YUU ESS HAVE OVEWPLAYED IT HAND. CHINA GOV NOW ISSUE BAN ON U S CHIP. DOMESTIC COMPANY NOW SET TO PWOFIT BIWWION AND GWOW LAAWJUH
Seethe, irrelevant westoid
Implessive
>government computers
well obviously
>they still use arm and x86 architectures for their local chips
>they run the linux kernel
lol why bother then
No PSP and IME tracking your computers
>No PSP and IME tracking your computers
source?
Source is because they are intel and amd botnet. China bans them for gov. Are you mentally moronic?
I don't understand, what do chinese government workers sending emails and documents need that they couldn't switch to self produced ARM + Linux years ago?
>Chink experts say that ime and psp in gov computers is bad
good
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
>China
People's Republic of China
There is no other China. Taiwan, formerly the Island of Formosa, is not Chinese.
don't care, didn't ask. address them by their full name because it is cooler
No
I guess they shouldn't speak Chinese or use Chinese characters then.
Is America british?
Yes
>civilians unaffected
nothingburger
>No you didn't ban us buying them we banned ourselves from buying them
well frick
BREAKING NEWS!!!
if only more boomers did that. Social media is bad, but modern television is so much worse
It only makes sense. They're all backdoored by mossad. Why would China use equipment compromised by the enemies of the entire world?