>vengeance
Japan is an American lapodg and isn't allowed to have their own military
vengeance isn't needed when they've been humiliated this much
2 years ago
Anonymous
>japan doesn't have their own military
why do morons always think this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Japan has no military
Japan has one of the largest militaries in the world the decision to not have a military initially was a Japanese one, not American.
America has encouraged Japan to develop a strong military to prevent the spread of communism since 1947
Depends how much global warming affects china along with how the gov deals with the aging population.... though if the US becomes the next Yugoslavia then I could see this happening within the decade.
China is the most rapidly aging society in the history of the planet and Made in China 2025 is a dumpster fire because of shit-eating-moron-tier Wolf Diplomacy and continuous COVID-19 lockdowns because the CCP is too fricking stubborn to use foreign vaccines. There is a reason China spends more on internal security forces than they do on their military.
The 21st century holds only misery for everyone, that's the ultimate joke on China. They get dabbed on for centuries after being the big fish in the little pond, focus everything on reforming themselves, and emerge right as the shit show of stalling economies, population collapse, and climate change induced instabilities begin to really sink their teeth into civilization.
You're exaggerating its threats but all it would have to do in this situation is fall apart slower than everyone else and pick up the pieces of ruins around them.
China has a worse demographic problem than fricking Japan, shill-kun. As the population ages there are less workers to fund the state at the same time the state has to increase funding to support the elderly - and without a successful transition into advanced manufacturing the only feasible way to mitigate the problem, greater productivity per worker, is out of reach. This is especially dangerous for China because while the coastal parts of the country have standards of living similar to western Europe the entire interior is dependent on government subsidy.
I don't even hate China, it's just mind numbing seeing how bad their decision making has been. They are still struggling with lockdowns in their manufacturing centers because they are still using the Chinese vaccine which was only 58% effective against the original COVID-19 variant and useless against the current ones. They are throwing away everything they have built.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But most don't live true first world lives. The elderly can be brought together in cheap housing, watched for cheap. Maybe they'll rebel for better standards of living but they're just as likely to take it.
Covid is fake news and is barely more scary than regular flu based on official CDC reports.
2 years ago
Anonymous
China demographic crisis is just as overblown as Japan's
White people are going extinct soon yet Europe and America aren't doing shit about it
Basically this.
China needs less people than it has. They only need enough to sustain their economy and military, about 700 million are just existing to make food and eat and live in their homes. That's 700 million whose jobs are rapidly becoming obsolete and are willing to rebel for their lower or middle class standards of living. Caring for the elderly is a meme and they could just make Xinjiang type complexes if it becomes too much of a problem. They already have problem areas under lockdown.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>about 700 million are just existing to make food and eat and live in their homes
Have those 700 million build a fleet to conquer the Pacific then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Have those 700 million build a fleet to conquer the Pacific then.
They just built their third carrier in the last few days. In the last decade, they made something like 100 new destroyers/subs/etc and hundred+ aircrafts.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Have those 700 million build a fleet to conquer the Pacific then.
They just built their third carrier in the last few days. In the last decade, they made something like 100 new destroyers/subs/etc and hundred+ aircrafts.
The Chinese are not natural sailors and won't be until they have a real blue-water fleet and base for it. They don't want to send useless, superfluous peasants too stupid to be engineers to do it, they'll just frick things up like the Spanish did.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except spaniards and portugueses are natural sailors.
They just hadnt had enough numbers to compete.
2 years ago
Anonymous
what the frick are you talking about idiot? what do they have to do with this
2 years ago
Anonymous
And how will they be fed?
2 years ago
Anonymous
With the newly developing Siberian breadbasket due to climate change.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Covid is fake news and is barely more scary than regular flu based on official CDC reports.
God can this board get any dumber.
Hello virology is a thing you know.
2 years ago
Anonymous
moron, people our age are 100x more likely to die in a traffic accident, so throw yourself in front of a car, and I'll take my chances with the fake news virus.
2 years ago
Anonymous
China demographic crisis is just as overblown as Japan's
White people are going extinct soon yet Europe and America aren't doing shit about it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, do these responses make sense? I'm neither for nor against China, but the so called demographic crisis is memey.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so called demographic crisis is memey.
??? they have a shitty birth rate, a one child policy population hitting retirement age, and have gone from 50:1 worker:dependent ratio to 2:1 in the space of 30 years.
>crisis what crisis???
2 years ago
Anonymous
lmao so? america's golden age had 1 worker for 3-4 dependents.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No.
2 years ago
Anonymous
At least they are still Han Chinese.
Europe and N Ameica on the other hand are being replaced.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Dies
"Hey at least we don't have immigrants"
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you think 1.4 billion (excluding Chinese living outside of China) will disappear, you are moronic.
China will lose a few hundred million and stabalise.
The west will lose its native population, but be replaced by third worlders so there wont be any major population number changes
But when all is said and done, China will be Chinese. The west will be afro-muslim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This but unironically, I would much rather let the population shrink than bring in a bunch of fricking shitskins. If I wanted to live with the monkeys, I'd move to the jungle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
China is so big they’ll be first even after half their working population dies off
2 years ago
Anonymous
>what is India >Nigeria >US
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Literal peasant populist democracy shit struggling to reach positive gdp/capita growth, I guess some cities and Kerala are decent, doesn’t have 1/10th of the organisation and institutions of China, will get rekt by global warming but doesn’t have the capability to build infrastructure against it, they’ll slowly bump along their way to superpower without being able to surpass China
>Ah yes the country where half the economy is in the black market Kek, have you seen their current politics? They may do some shit done next century if the whole thing doesn’t collapse from desertification and sahelian refugee
>Lol tier
2 years ago
Anonymous
What would even be the effects of demographic collapse in China? They can finally live in houses instead of commieblocks?
Russia wiener slapped them into obedience so it’s unlikely that’ll change.
Pretty much this. The reality is that China only caught up in an age of decay caused by powers even they are subservient to, there’ll be no grand flexing of muscles on everyone that owned them in the past beyond just being the one that produces their stuff like exploding fridges and escalators that mulch people who ride on them.
PRC signed some deal with Russia and Mongolia voiding their claims iirc.
Right-KMT boomer's in Taipei still recognise Mongolia province and Tuva as occupied by communist bandits along with the rest of the mainland though.
>Chinks should thank the Manchus
Manchus considered themselves Chinese as did the Yuan
Keep coping
China has a worse demographic problem than fricking Japan, shill-kun. As the population ages there are less workers to fund the state at the same time the state has to increase funding to support the elderly - and without a successful transition into advanced manufacturing the only feasible way to mitigate the problem, greater productivity per worker, is out of reach. This is especially dangerous for China because while the coastal parts of the country have standards of living similar to western Europe the entire interior is dependent on government subsidy.
I don't even hate China, it's just mind numbing seeing how bad their decision making has been. They are still struggling with lockdowns in their manufacturing centers because they are still using the Chinese vaccine which was only 58% effective against the original COVID-19 variant and useless against the current ones. They are throwing away everything they have built.
This cope is even more hilarious >They are still struggling with lockdowns in their manufacturing centers because
This has nothing to due with the Chinese vaccines, they're effective and work just fine. It has to do with the CPC'S zero covid policy which is based
Human lived are worth more than the economy
>Manchus considered themselves Chinese as did the Yuan >Keep coping
Lmfao. Yes, after the conquered them and assimilated. What he said makes sense. Cry, moron.
they didn't but they basically assimilated and cucked themselves into northern hans. and then you have all these beijing and liaoning mutts, chinese colonists in mongolia who LARP as Qings because they have a deformed looking skull
>China's lost territories. Note how it doesn't go after the Russian ones.
If Russia keeps destroying itself for Hoholland, they might make an attempt lmao.
But right now the Russian east is practically China's already, they're utterly reliant on Chinese goods and trade with China more than the Kremlin. China on the other hand gets the benefits of the East without actually having to own and run the place. Its a Cuckoos nest out there.
Historically speaking, China is the middle kingdom for which everyone else is tributary state. Roman empire/Byzantine Empire/Indians/Japanese/Koreans/Russians/Persians/Egyptians were all territories China had subjugated. In fact, given that China is the middle kingdom, it means the whole universe is China's territory.
Because unlike Putin, China is smart enough to know that war costs way more than any land or natural resources that can be so gained. They may still fight for Taiwan, but that has far more importance for them than any resource or land because it's a Chinese province.
More like look at all of Mongolias lost territories, if you include the Mughals, its pretty much the whole map. We should topple all the eurasian buttholes and put mongols back in charge.
China will be like Hitler dreamed of what Germany and Germans will be if they win the war. Demographic? Africa and South America will be Chinese colonies and from these countries will go to work in China millions, Indians will be no exception
>Indians will be no exception
Not even mentioned, yet they live rent free in Chinese heads.
https://ceias.eu/chinese-views-of-the-world-at-the-time-of-the-russia-ukraine-war/ >tfw even though china is entering a cold war with america, they still hate india as much just because they didn't back down after chinese border aggression
Never underestimate the hive mind.
The high IQ realpolitik knower understands that claims over muh rightful clay and other historical bullshit stem from modern geopolitical power struggles, not the other way around. First you figure out why it benefits you to pick a fight, then you “find” the evidence to make your claims and change the textbooks as necessary. If it’s not worth fighting over, don’t talk about it and the public forgets in a decade
China is rightful nihon clay
>Taiwan not coloured in
Other way round
They basically consider Taiwan already part of China, as a matter of fact, though it is also a matter of subduing the rebellious regional government.
Cope, you'll never get your vengeance.
>vengeance
Japan is an American lapodg and isn't allowed to have their own military
vengeance isn't needed when they've been humiliated this much
>japan doesn't have their own military
why do morons always think this?
>Japan has no military
Japan has one of the largest militaries in the world the decision to not have a military initially was a Japanese one, not American.
America has encouraged Japan to develop a strong military to prevent the spread of communism since 1947
cringe
based
Taiwan is china. Both sides say so.
Japan was a tribute state to China for 500 years
delusional
Primorsky is ethnically Russian, the others are either tiny strategic strips of land or historically part of China and inhabited by yellows.
Because they settled it through the 1991 Sino-Soviet Border Agreement
Yeah unlike le based Russia that is destroying itself for some fricking hohol land
It eventually will once it displaces the us as the world hegemon.
How long do you think it'd take?
I'm betting around 20 years.
Depends how much global warming affects china along with how the gov deals with the aging population.... though if the US becomes the next Yugoslavia then I could see this happening within the decade.
Nukes mean it won't happen.
Population collapse will be fricking them up by then.
China would just act like a tributary nation yet with more diplomatic bs.
Probably won't happen until at least 2100. Wait for the 13% with 70 IQ to do 50% of the work of destroying Muttmeristan.
China is the most rapidly aging society in the history of the planet and Made in China 2025 is a dumpster fire because of shit-eating-moron-tier Wolf Diplomacy and continuous COVID-19 lockdowns because the CCP is too fricking stubborn to use foreign vaccines. There is a reason China spends more on internal security forces than they do on their military.
The 21st century holds only misery for everyone, that's the ultimate joke on China. They get dabbed on for centuries after being the big fish in the little pond, focus everything on reforming themselves, and emerge right as the shit show of stalling economies, population collapse, and climate change induced instabilities begin to really sink their teeth into civilization.
You're exaggerating its threats but all it would have to do in this situation is fall apart slower than everyone else and pick up the pieces of ruins around them.
China has a worse demographic problem than fricking Japan, shill-kun. As the population ages there are less workers to fund the state at the same time the state has to increase funding to support the elderly - and without a successful transition into advanced manufacturing the only feasible way to mitigate the problem, greater productivity per worker, is out of reach. This is especially dangerous for China because while the coastal parts of the country have standards of living similar to western Europe the entire interior is dependent on government subsidy.
I don't even hate China, it's just mind numbing seeing how bad their decision making has been. They are still struggling with lockdowns in their manufacturing centers because they are still using the Chinese vaccine which was only 58% effective against the original COVID-19 variant and useless against the current ones. They are throwing away everything they have built.
But most don't live true first world lives. The elderly can be brought together in cheap housing, watched for cheap. Maybe they'll rebel for better standards of living but they're just as likely to take it.
Covid is fake news and is barely more scary than regular flu based on official CDC reports.
Basically this.
China needs less people than it has. They only need enough to sustain their economy and military, about 700 million are just existing to make food and eat and live in their homes. That's 700 million whose jobs are rapidly becoming obsolete and are willing to rebel for their lower or middle class standards of living. Caring for the elderly is a meme and they could just make Xinjiang type complexes if it becomes too much of a problem. They already have problem areas under lockdown.
>about 700 million are just existing to make food and eat and live in their homes
Have those 700 million build a fleet to conquer the Pacific then.
>Have those 700 million build a fleet to conquer the Pacific then.
They just built their third carrier in the last few days. In the last decade, they made something like 100 new destroyers/subs/etc and hundred+ aircrafts.
The Chinese are not natural sailors and won't be until they have a real blue-water fleet and base for it. They don't want to send useless, superfluous peasants too stupid to be engineers to do it, they'll just frick things up like the Spanish did.
Except spaniards and portugueses are natural sailors.
They just hadnt had enough numbers to compete.
what the frick are you talking about idiot? what do they have to do with this
And how will they be fed?
With the newly developing Siberian breadbasket due to climate change.
>Covid is fake news and is barely more scary than regular flu based on official CDC reports.
God can this board get any dumber.
Hello virology is a thing you know.
moron, people our age are 100x more likely to die in a traffic accident, so throw yourself in front of a car, and I'll take my chances with the fake news virus.
China demographic crisis is just as overblown as Japan's
White people are going extinct soon yet Europe and America aren't doing shit about it
Anon, do these responses make sense? I'm neither for nor against China, but the so called demographic crisis is memey.
>so called demographic crisis is memey.
??? they have a shitty birth rate, a one child policy population hitting retirement age, and have gone from 50:1 worker:dependent ratio to 2:1 in the space of 30 years.
>crisis what crisis???
lmao so? america's golden age had 1 worker for 3-4 dependents.
No.
At least they are still Han Chinese.
Europe and N Ameica on the other hand are being replaced.
>Dies
"Hey at least we don't have immigrants"
If you think 1.4 billion (excluding Chinese living outside of China) will disappear, you are moronic.
China will lose a few hundred million and stabalise.
The west will lose its native population, but be replaced by third worlders so there wont be any major population number changes
But when all is said and done, China will be Chinese. The west will be afro-muslim.
This but unironically, I would much rather let the population shrink than bring in a bunch of fricking shitskins. If I wanted to live with the monkeys, I'd move to the jungle.
China is so big they’ll be first even after half their working population dies off
>what is India
>Nigeria
>US
>Literal peasant populist democracy shit struggling to reach positive gdp/capita growth, I guess some cities and Kerala are decent, doesn’t have 1/10th of the organisation and institutions of China, will get rekt by global warming but doesn’t have the capability to build infrastructure against it, they’ll slowly bump along their way to superpower without being able to surpass China
>Ah yes the country where half the economy is in the black market Kek, have you seen their current politics? They may do some shit done next century if the whole thing doesn’t collapse from desertification and sahelian refugee
>Lol tier
What would even be the effects of demographic collapse in China? They can finally live in houses instead of commieblocks?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/total-fertility-rate
Russia wiener slapped them into obedience so it’s unlikely that’ll change.
Pretty much this. The reality is that China only caught up in an age of decay caused by powers even they are subservient to, there’ll be no grand flexing of muscles on everyone that owned them in the past beyond just being the one that produces their stuff like exploding fridges and escalators that mulch people who ride on them.
The Chinese are already taking over major corporations in Western countries, especially Western Europe.
Russia has nukes. Russia is also China’s biggest ally. China will not be going after the territory it lost to Russia.
PRC signed some deal with Russia and Mongolia voiding their claims iirc.
Right-KMT boomer's in Taipei still recognise Mongolia province and Tuva as occupied by communist bandits along with the rest of the mainland though.
China proper is this. Chinks should thank the Manchus for giving them claims on Manchuria, Tibet, Mongolia, Xinjiang
>Chinks should thank the Manchus
Manchus considered themselves Chinese as did the Yuan
Keep coping
This cope is even more hilarious
>They are still struggling with lockdowns in their manufacturing centers because
This has nothing to due with the Chinese vaccines, they're effective and work just fine. It has to do with the CPC'S zero covid policy which is based
Human lived are worth more than the economy
The Qing kept their own language at court. They were very aware of not being Chinese and were proud of that.
>Manchus considered themselves Chinese as did the Yuan
>Keep coping
Lmfao. Yes, after the conquered them and assimilated. What he said makes sense. Cry, moron.
they didn't but they basically assimilated and cucked themselves into northern hans. and then you have all these beijing and liaoning mutts, chinese colonists in mongolia who LARP as Qings because they have a deformed looking skull
>China's lost territories. Note how it doesn't go after the Russian ones.
If Russia keeps destroying itself for Hoholland, they might make an attempt lmao.
But right now the Russian east is practically China's already, they're utterly reliant on Chinese goods and trade with China more than the Kremlin. China on the other hand gets the benefits of the East without actually having to own and run the place. Its a Cuckoos nest out there.
They will when Putin's regime collapses
Historically speaking, China is the middle kingdom for which everyone else is tributary state. Roman empire/Byzantine Empire/Indians/Japanese/Koreans/Russians/Persians/Egyptians were all territories China had subjugated. In fact, given that China is the middle kingdom, it means the whole universe is China's territory.
Kek based wumao
Because unlike Putin, China is smart enough to know that war costs way more than any land or natural resources that can be so gained. They may still fight for Taiwan, but that has far more importance for them than any resource or land because it's a Chinese province.
>Because unlike Putin, China is smart enough to know that
You're moronic
More like look at all of Mongolias lost territories, if you include the Mughals, its pretty much the whole map. We should topple all the eurasian buttholes and put mongols back in charge.
China will be like Hitler dreamed of what Germany and Germans will be if they win the war. Demographic? Africa and South America will be Chinese colonies and from these countries will go to work in China millions, Indians will be no exception
>Indians will be no exception
Not even mentioned, yet they live rent free in Chinese heads.
https://ceias.eu/chinese-views-of-the-world-at-the-time-of-the-russia-ukraine-war/
>tfw even though china is entering a cold war with america, they still hate india as much just because they didn't back down after chinese border aggression
Never underestimate the hive mind.
>dude population small is bad we need to breed
can we just thin the herd for once
The high IQ realpolitik knower understands that claims over muh rightful clay and other historical bullshit stem from modern geopolitical power struggles, not the other way around. First you figure out why it benefits you to pick a fight, then you “find” the evidence to make your claims and change the textbooks as necessary. If it’s not worth fighting over, don’t talk about it and the public forgets in a decade