Considering most secret societies borrow (steal) heavily from Egyptian mythology (Freemasonry, O.T.O., Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians, etc.) is it safe to say the Egyptians might've been onto something? Or is it just a matter of aesthetics?
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yes onto something, but they didn't begin it and I wouldn't bother looking to larp groups for preserves of truth.
In some ways Egypt is the secret founder of western civilization.
The Greeks borrowed from them, the alphabet was developed in Egyptian-ruled Canaan, and Monotheism first appeared in Egypt.
I wouldn't say "secret founder" considering any historian will probably tell you the same thing.
maybe lesser known is the better phrase.
>The Greeks borrowed from them, the alphabet was developed in Egyptian-ruled Canaan, and Monotheism first appeared in Egypt.
all of this has been a huge mistake
They just preserved legacy of previous civilization cycle better than others
Tl;dr yes, but modern usage of egyptian imagery is more of a larp that happened to be an accidentally correct assumption.
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Yes, although I don't think the link is as direct as it may seem. The cult of Isis was, as far as I've seen, the first panthiest mystery/initiation cult. It went on to influence the temple at Eleusis, Minoan Crete, and possibly even the cult of Mithras (although I think that one is closer to Freemasonry than it was to the Egyptian/Eleusian). I'd even go as far as to say that there's a line that can be traced from the Isis mystery cult to Germanic Paganism.
However, I think some secret society type organizations, while espousing similar ideas and imagery, are more a product of their time. The best example of this is Golden Dawn/Thelema/Crowley's stuff. I think part, if not all, of his reason for using that imagery was because of the time period. Egypt was being excavated and was home for some really exciting finds, such as mummies and tombs and such. Western society played on this idea and was excited about it. It's kind of like the Viking craze in the mid-2010's to now. We never had that craze for things we already know about. We are always looking for some secret knowledge rather than looking at what's effective; it's likely that Christianity or Buddhism are more effective than a lost secret initiation cult- and this is coming from someone who isn't christian or buddhist and who's autistic fixation is on ancient religions.
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It's just forbidden Watcher knowledge.
>safe to say the Egyptians might've been onto something?
Yes
>is it just a matter of aesthetics?
Mostly
Egypt developed the first portable writing industry too
Don't tell the Chinese
ALL these secret societies were Abrahamic Christians. The Question is why would these Judeo-Christans deny their beautiful chaldean Mesopotamian first civilization root and attach themselves to a heathen culture destroy by God.
I don't know who you're against or what you stand for but I'm about your way of going about it
Hermes Trismegistus basically founded occultism and he was Egyptian, and the Hermetica is usually considered his work (or at least, a development of Hermes' original work). In Islam he's attributed to the figure Idris and in Christianity he's Enoch.
So the Egyptians started esotericism, then the Greeks picked it up from them, then the Romans, on until the present day. Basically Ancient Egypt just started esotericism and occultism and secret societies continued it, and that's why it has a heavy Egyptian influence.
Purely aesthetics. All those groups sprang up right around the time Egyptology was popular, especially with the upper class who had time to dabble with such things.
Yes they were onto a religion made by Satan. To divert them from pure monotheism.
"There will come a time when it will be seen that in vain have the Egyptians honoured the divinity with a pious mind and with assiduous service. All their holy worship will become inefficacious. The gods, leaving the earth, will go back to heaven; they will abandon Egypt; this land, once the home of religion, will be widowed of its gods and left destitute. Strangers will fill this country, and not only will there no longer be care for religious observances, but, a yet more painful thing, it will be laid down under so-called laws, under pain of punishments, that all must abstain from acts of piety or cult towards the gods. Then this most holy land, the home of sanctuaries and temples, will be covered with tombs and the dead. O Egypt, Egypt, there will remain of thy religion only fables, and thy children in later times will not believe them; nothing will survive save words engraved on stones to tell of thy pious deeds. The Scythian or the Indian, or some other such barbarous neighbour will establish himself in Egypt. For behold the divinity goes back up to heaven; and men, abandoned, all die, and then, without either god or man, Egypt will be nothing but a desert."