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Space and time are the forms of all possible experience or phenomena, space being the form of all external phenomena and time of internal phenomena.
The thing-in-itself is the true correlate of these forms. That's why there is no space-in-itself or time-in-itself, but only a noumenon which is neither space nor time.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >The thing-in-itself is the true correlate of these forms.

    What do you mean by this?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Try to consider time as it would be in itself while also keeping space in mind. Can you?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The thing-in-itself is the true correlate of these forms.

        What do you mean by this?

        https://i.imgur.com/WqjCTgl.jpg

        Space and time are the forms of all possible experience or phenomena, space being the form of all external phenomena and time of internal phenomena.
        The thing-in-itself is the true correlate of these forms. That's why there is no space-in-itself or time-in-itself, but only a noumenon which is neither space nor time.

        Th concept of a thing in-itself was Kants biggest mistake, easily proven because it needs the external world to be defined as the negation thereoff.

        Also space and time does not exist at all in the external world.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          are you high?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >What do you mean by this?
      That the thing-in-itself is the true correlate of these forms.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >space and time
    anything else? feel like that’s not an exhaustive list.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      As far as describing the outside world that's about it. Space and time describe reality sufficiently.

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      Th concept of a thing in-itself was Kants biggest mistake, easily proven because it needs the external world to be defined as the negation thereoff.

      Also space and time does not exist at all in the external world.

      You are a moron.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        what about everything mental? like dreams?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Those are all subjective though.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've fairly new to philosophy and could never imagine trying to unravel the dense texts of these philosophers by myself. That being said, wtf does this mean?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That means start with the greeks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Can I start with the Hindus?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Start with the Hindus if you have to, or don't. It doesn't matter where you start, as long you start somewhere.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If you read Kant directly you'll see that he defines all his terms very clearly. It's not that hard, just really deep and dense stuff

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'm German and I'm currently reading it in a seminar. My professor told me not even he understands everything. Just look at the secondary literature

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i've come to realize over the years that the transcendental aesthetic is the dumbest part of the copr

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >space being the form of all external phenomena and time of internal phenomena
    I don't see any distinct boundaries with which we can confidently establish such a duality.

    >That's why there is no space-in-itself or time-in-itself
    Physics now posits spacetime (space and time are perceptions of the same manifold), which partially agrees with this conclusion. I don't think he demonstrated that we can't know -anything- about the noumenal, however; although we of course can't perceive it directly or know it completely, it seems to me that something of the noumenal must necessarily be conveyed in its appearances.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't see any distinct boundaries with which we can confidently establish such a duality
      It's not a duality but an a priori synthesis, because space and time cannot be deduced analytically from each other and must be considered synthetically.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >must be considered synthetically.
        Ultimately everything must be. Experience is the only conduit to knowledge, which is why Kant tried to save the 'a priori' distinction with the qualifier 'synthetic'. One wonders though if the distinction is really worth saving at that point (i.e. there is no clear border between the form and content of experience).

        But we digress, the statement does indeed uncritically presume a duality of internal and external, form and content.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Space and time are the forms of all possible experience or phenomena
    you forgot about emotion

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Emotions aren't real.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What emotion do you experience in a given instant? When Kant calls time the form of intuition, he means it literally.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        one of the many I've been programmed to possibly feel

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you're the form of intuition

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