society is really moronic about choosing your career. Noone tells you in ernest 'just do what you would do anyway', and if they do It's in that stupid 'just be yourself' kind of way.
I pity that dude because I was there myself with a business degree, though I couldn't stand to think of the monetary value of anything, I chose that career because it promised an easy lifestyle. Learnt to code and couldn't be happier for my carreer change.
>colleges not offering unemployable majors
Do you not understand their business model? You go 4 years for that, then go back for something you decided was "real" like math or chemistry or what have you for another 4 years, then when you can't get a job there either you go in for a master's degree then a phd for another 4. They made 3x as much money off giving you 3 degrees, why would they possibly want you to just move on to working in your industry after the first one?
the purpose of college isn't to get a job you absolute troglodyte, it's to further academia. employers just realized it's a convenient way to vet potential employees as having a baseline knowledge.
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>the purpose of college isn't to get a job you absolute troglodyte, it's to further academia
God, I fricking wish. Maybe once you hit graduate level, undergraduate is basically just high school 2 and about as expected.
Go look at those fricking prices and tell me it's a smart decision to enroll if you actually want to learn.
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the purpose of college isn't to get a job you absolute troglodyte, it's to further academia. employers just realized it's a convenient way to vet potential employees as having a baseline knowledge.
pretty sure the purpose of college is to indoctrinate young people with left-leaning ideologies as a form of social subversion
if they graduate with any practical skills it's just a fluke
1 month ago
Anonymous
>high school 2
Pretty much. Used to be "high school diploma required" to work at mcdick's. Now it's practically "bachelor's degree required" since they have so many applicants for every job that they can just hire somebody with their certificate of showing up for 4 years.
1 month ago
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ok
https://www.ucf.edu/degree/computer-science-bs/
120 credit hours from nothing to bachelors, $25,473.6
https://www.ucf.edu/degree/computer-science-ms/
30 credit hours from bachelors to ms, $11,089.5
a whopping $36,563.1 over 6 years or $6,093.85/year
that's dirt cheap if you're going to educate yourself, some people spend more getting takeout.
1 month ago
Anonymous
College doesn’t even make sense for CS. You can learn more by watching YouTube, reading documentation and books. What you’re paying for is a piece of paper, and half of it is bullshit classes. I’d straight up lie about my education.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I’d straight up lie about my education.
based and fib-pilled
people have been lying to get ahead since the dawn of time and the vast majority get away with it. most people are averse to conflict so even if they found out they'd rather just pretend they didn't and continue the lie than create a shitstorm and face legal troubles.
1 month ago
Anonymous
hyuck hyuck professor, I'd like access to your research funding, lab with cutting edge tech, brainpooling with people who have decades of experience, all to perform research. my qualifications? oh yeah well here's my riced loonix install and I'm able to decode indian accents.
1 month ago
Anonymous
lol no CS undergrad at a state university is doing that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I'm able to decode indian accents.
You say this like it isn't a resume-tier skill.
1 month ago
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>paying for is a piece of paper
You say that like you made a discovery. It always has been about that and networking dumbo. Your college knowledge doesn't worth shit in the real world.
1 month ago
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I got a job making 6 figures because my brother in law is mid level management. Feels good man.
You guys just need to be more confident and get to know people in positions of power.
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Now do out of state.
Also at the same time that's either $40k out of pocket or $40k of debt during a timeframe where having a full time job is unfeasible so it hits you like a truck on the way out. That shit is entirely unreasonable just for an education, you need to be looking at job prospects going in unless you want to stick exclusively to academia which at that point is just luck of the draw.
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>it's not expensive because, uh, people are stupid and waste money anyway lol
never post on this site again
>The number of students nationwide seeking four-year degrees in computer and information sciences and related fields shot up 34 percent from 2017 to 2022, to about 573,000, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. The English-major head count fell 23 percent in that time, to about 113,000. History fell 12 percent, to about 77,000.
>Similar patterns unfolded at College Park. In 2010, arts and humanities majors of all kinds outnumbered the computer science total at U-Md. more than 4 to 1. Now the university counts about 2,400 students majoring in arts and humanities — a collection of disciplines that fill an entire college — and about 3,300 in computer science.
>University data shows that there were 925 computer science majors at College Park in 2010. By last fall, the total had more than tripled to 3,329, including specialty tracks such as machine learning, cybersecurity and quantum information. Federal statistics show that U-Md. awarded 810 bachelor’s degrees in computer science in 2021, second only to 822 awarded by the University of California at Irvine.
those figures are from before generative AI became mainstream too, so you'll be getting all kinds of normies joining for that and then quitting because it's too hard.
>Computer science undergraduate programs at four-year institutions reached their highest rate of growth in three years (+11.6%, +62,000 students) in spring 2023. At
two-year institutions, computer science enrollments are now above pre-pandemic levels, reversing three years of flat or declining numbers (+9.7%, +20,000 students).
Healthcare and education program enrollments continued to fall across two- and four-year institutions alike
https://nscresearchcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/CTEE_Report_Spring_2023.pdf
This just affects freshers.
What the industry is doing right now is to severely filter new applicants and almost beg for experienced people in key areas.
At some point this imbalance will not sustain itself, and the market will start pushing for the "lack of IT people" narrative again.
This happens in pretty much all fields, it's not something invented along the internet.
College is a scam. You go for 4 years. Tossed out deep in debt. Along the way your told "don't worry, you'll get a job, this debt is nothing" Then wham. The boot. The debt. The endless job search. The debt piles up. Maybe by the time your in your mid 40s you'll finally have your college degree paid off. Which has been collecting dust in a box for 20+ years in the meantime. Good job champ. You paid off that piece of dusty paper at last. Now work another 20 years and pay off your house. You won't have any retirement but hey least your debts will be wiped clean.
it's saturated thanks to gays like this in the first place. meanwhile people who've been writing programs since 10 (like yours truly) chose this field because they like it. it's fine though, I'm not an idiot. it would not be hard for me to learn anything else.
society is really moronic about choosing your career. Noone tells you in ernest 'just do what you would do anyway', and if they do It's in that stupid 'just be yourself' kind of way.
I pity that dude because I was there myself with a business degree, though I couldn't stand to think of the monetary value of anything, I chose that career because it promised an easy lifestyle. Learnt to code and couldn't be happier for my carreer change.
Except it's not. It's all the majors that filter people too weak for even calculus 1
I defeated calculus 1-3 but got a C in each one. Will I make it?
>got filtered from CS after two years due to my subpar intellect
>now I'm a cozy tradie with no end of jobs in sight
feelsgoodman
>never studied cs
>studied gender theory
>300k starting salary
>I hate coding anyways (forgot to mention that earlier in the post)
kek, was never gonna make it
OP picrel is 100% a pajeet. India is world wide power
When will colleges start banning CS? There’s not enough jobs. It’s a senior market only.
>colleges not offering unemployable majors
Do you not understand their business model? You go 4 years for that, then go back for something you decided was "real" like math or chemistry or what have you for another 4 years, then when you can't get a job there either you go in for a master's degree then a phd for another 4. They made 3x as much money off giving you 3 degrees, why would they possibly want you to just move on to working in your industry after the first one?
Colleges should only get paid once you get a job in the field you studied.
the purpose of college isn't to get a job you absolute troglodyte, it's to further academia. employers just realized it's a convenient way to vet potential employees as having a baseline knowledge.
>the purpose of college isn't to get a job you absolute troglodyte, it's to further academia
God, I fricking wish. Maybe once you hit graduate level, undergraduate is basically just high school 2 and about as expected.
Go look at those fricking prices and tell me it's a smart decision to enroll if you actually want to learn.
pretty sure the purpose of college is to indoctrinate young people with left-leaning ideologies as a form of social subversion
if they graduate with any practical skills it's just a fluke
>high school 2
Pretty much. Used to be "high school diploma required" to work at mcdick's. Now it's practically "bachelor's degree required" since they have so many applicants for every job that they can just hire somebody with their certificate of showing up for 4 years.
ok
https://www.ucf.edu/degree/computer-science-bs/
120 credit hours from nothing to bachelors, $25,473.6
https://www.ucf.edu/degree/computer-science-ms/
30 credit hours from bachelors to ms, $11,089.5
a whopping $36,563.1 over 6 years or $6,093.85/year
that's dirt cheap if you're going to educate yourself, some people spend more getting takeout.
College doesn’t even make sense for CS. You can learn more by watching YouTube, reading documentation and books. What you’re paying for is a piece of paper, and half of it is bullshit classes. I’d straight up lie about my education.
>I’d straight up lie about my education.
based and fib-pilled
people have been lying to get ahead since the dawn of time and the vast majority get away with it. most people are averse to conflict so even if they found out they'd rather just pretend they didn't and continue the lie than create a shitstorm and face legal troubles.
hyuck hyuck professor, I'd like access to your research funding, lab with cutting edge tech, brainpooling with people who have decades of experience, all to perform research. my qualifications? oh yeah well here's my riced loonix install and I'm able to decode indian accents.
lol no CS undergrad at a state university is doing that.
>I'm able to decode indian accents.
You say this like it isn't a resume-tier skill.
>paying for is a piece of paper
You say that like you made a discovery. It always has been about that and networking dumbo. Your college knowledge doesn't worth shit in the real world.
I got a job making 6 figures because my brother in law is mid level management. Feels good man.
You guys just need to be more confident and get to know people in positions of power.
Now do out of state.
Also at the same time that's either $40k out of pocket or $40k of debt during a timeframe where having a full time job is unfeasible so it hits you like a truck on the way out. That shit is entirely unreasonable just for an education, you need to be looking at job prospects going in unless you want to stick exclusively to academia which at that point is just luck of the draw.
>it's not expensive because, uh, people are stupid and waste money anyway lol
never post on this site again
>game designer
I stopped reading there. Grow fricking up manchildren.
>The number of students nationwide seeking four-year degrees in computer and information sciences and related fields shot up 34 percent from 2017 to 2022, to about 573,000, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. The English-major head count fell 23 percent in that time, to about 113,000. History fell 12 percent, to about 77,000.
>Similar patterns unfolded at College Park. In 2010, arts and humanities majors of all kinds outnumbered the computer science total at U-Md. more than 4 to 1. Now the university counts about 2,400 students majoring in arts and humanities — a collection of disciplines that fill an entire college — and about 3,300 in computer science.
>University data shows that there were 925 computer science majors at College Park in 2010. By last fall, the total had more than tripled to 3,329, including specialty tracks such as machine learning, cybersecurity and quantum information. Federal statistics show that U-Md. awarded 810 bachelor’s degrees in computer science in 2021, second only to 822 awarded by the University of California at Irvine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/05/19/college-majors-computer-science-humanities/
those figures are from before generative AI became mainstream too, so you'll be getting all kinds of normies joining for that and then quitting because it's too hard.
>Computer science undergraduate programs at four-year institutions reached their highest rate of growth in three years (+11.6%, +62,000 students) in spring 2023. At
two-year institutions, computer science enrollments are now above pre-pandemic levels, reversing three years of flat or declining numbers (+9.7%, +20,000 students).
Healthcare and education program enrollments continued to fall across two- and four-year institutions alike
https://nscresearchcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/CTEE_Report_Spring_2023.pdf
>just learn to code!
>and so they did.
Looks like you guys memed yourselves out of jobs when normies realized most companies just need someone with a pulse who knows python and java.
I wonder if your salaries are going to start decreasing, as in you'll get negative raises?
This just affects freshers.
What the industry is doing right now is to severely filter new applicants and almost beg for experienced people in key areas.
At some point this imbalance will not sustain itself, and the market will start pushing for the "lack of IT people" narrative again.
This happens in pretty much all fields, it's not something invented along the internet.
College is a scam. You go for 4 years. Tossed out deep in debt. Along the way your told "don't worry, you'll get a job, this debt is nothing" Then wham. The boot. The debt. The endless job search. The debt piles up. Maybe by the time your in your mid 40s you'll finally have your college degree paid off. Which has been collecting dust in a box for 20+ years in the meantime. Good job champ. You paid off that piece of dusty paper at last. Now work another 20 years and pay off your house. You won't have any retirement but hey least your debts will be wiped clean.
it's saturated thanks to gays like this in the first place. meanwhile people who've been writing programs since 10 (like yours truly) chose this field because they like it. it's fine though, I'm not an idiot. it would not be hard for me to learn anything else.
You sound like an awful person to be around.
>delusional fantasies of becoming a game designer
There you go
just give em a firm handshake