only his 3rd point is valid. Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex. Either deal with it or don't participate
>websites are now apps.
apps shouldn't take 150MiB RAM either unless they're doing something with lots of data (like scientific computing or fancy graphical vidya). In case you're unaware, 150MiB is 1.2 billion ones and zeroes. It's the equivalent of 500 plaintext books (at 300KiB a book). What exactly is your shitty social media platform doing that needs its own private library's worth of memory?
this page we are writing on uses 96.1MB of memory.
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Anonymous
i don't get half that
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's the web browser that uses that memory, moron. Loading this very same page in a 2004 web browser would work exactly the same, living in a much more responsive and efficient environment. And the computer running it might not even have one gigabyte of RAM. That's a ridiculous amount.
You are fricking braindead if you really think this primitive page needs that much memory.
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Anonymous
>might not even have one gigabyte of RAM
or even 100 MB
Web devs are the very worst tier of programmer. They have NO IDEA how the machine works, which leads to not understanding what performance and/or memory impact something they do will have.
Source: I work with them and have to fix their shit. >uhh it's 100ms, that's nothing
Their mantra seems to be that 100ms is zero time elapsed.
Here's a fun exercise for anyone doubting what I'm saying. >Expose an API e.g. from a WASM module or via web view integration from Electron or Android. >Ask your web dev to only call function A once at startup. >Calls to function B must be matched by closing calls to C (begin/end pattern), and there can only be one such operation in flight at a time.
Simple stuff eh?
Try it.
Then imagine what will happen in your dialysis sessions when you're 60, when webshitters have made everything.
>websites are now apps.
And empty browser tabs are also apps.
>websites are now apps.
apps shouldn't take 150MiB RAM either unless they're doing something with lots of data (like scientific computing or fancy graphical vidya). In case you're unaware, 150MiB is 1.2 billion ones and zeroes. It's the equivalent of 500 plaintext books (at 300KiB a book). What exactly is your shitty social media platform doing that needs its own private library's worth of memory?
This was actually about an empty browser tab. Understandable that it takes up 150MB. It's its completely own app, sitting there, waiting for you to load more apps into it. Get with the time gramps.
>get with it gramps
It used to be possible to do full color page layouts, with multiple apps open (Quark, Illustrator, etc), in 16 MB of RAM. That’s megabytes, not giga. And those apps were more responsive on a 100 MHz cpu than today’s apps on multicore GHz class machines. Modern software engineering is shameful.
I don't think the internet is worse than before. I doubt the moron is a millenial as he says. malware and malicious ads were pervasive. today it's bad, but not as bad.
>they shouldn't >but they do
either accept the reality and deal with it or go live in a forest, moron
>Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex.
???
Well yes, I definitely would like my partner to not have any STDs
Like who cares? I like free stuff. If ads were good like LTT (that can't even use the terminal) says, the community wouldn't make ad blockers in the first place, it's the same problem with Netflix and piracy, if their services were good, no one would pirate, except brokies.
heres the deal... theres placing ads, and then theres just being a shitty capitalist company raping users for every penny. if companies would put, like, one or two ads on a page, then thatd be fine. but when they put one or two hundred.. its just sheer greed. then they wonder why people use ad blockers. maybe if they were reasonable about their ads, people wouldnt block them.
having sex with a condom is worse than not having sex at all. So many years of not having sex and having FOMO about it just to get into a committed relationship where I don't need one and realize I didn't miss anything at all
/thread
It's like homosexuals (both in figurative and literal sense) who complain about getting diseases and other shit but then you ask them if they wear protection. They look at you with that fluoride stare.
Not my problem anymore if they get herpes or the gonorrhea, unironically lost a few friends because I was being too "obnoxious" with my advice. I never had unprotected sex and asked tests of all my girlfriends in college. Not removing the plastic until I want to make children.
>Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex. Either deal with it or don't participate
the funny part is that women and atheists says this unironically
>Be living in a nice space >everything is great >buttholes move down the block >They start dumping trash all over their lawn >more and more people start dumping trash on their lawn >people begin shitting on the streets >Then some people begin throwing that shit at houses >soon your neighborhood becomes a dump >"just use drugs bro, then you won't be able to perceive the problem. Complaining that you need to use drugs is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex"
my parents are immigrants and I'm the only one in my friend group of engineers that is outraged about the abysmal quality of life
Canadians just do drugs and go to drag shows then look at me weird when I dare complain or imply that we live worse than the third world in many aspects
honestly if white urbanoids weren't like this I'd put all of my energy into trying to fix this country because I've lived in it my entire life and I don't believe in just giving up on what's yours that easily, but everyone I talk to is either brain damaged on the "right" or a passive man of inaction on the "left", as soon as I secure a job in the gulf I'm uprooting my family and leaving because waits in the emergency rooms are upwards of 14h with a open wound
Except sex without a condom feels better than sex with a condom, so there's incentive to not use one. The internet is only worse without adblock. Your analogy is fricking moronic.
any reasonably intelligent person should be able to find solutions to these issues
if your point is >why does it have to be so bad
it's because people are moronic now and there's no point trying to "save" the internet
only thing you can do is make your tiny space of the internet good
Yes, unfortunately. People basically use these graphical dedicated pagers which can now run operational systems np, and sites take advantage of this by digitally screaming about their agenda. It's basically a literal street market-tier distracting, except computers and without the advantages.
For me it's when social media is just a platform for companies to sell something to you. You think they're places for you to look at funny videos and stalk your friends' lives? No, you're going to look at sponsored boosted posts and you will purchase the product. If you ignore them, we'll pay your followed content creators to shill them to you.
why do you accept this as the default though? why is your idea of a good default to install an adblocker to make it so the web is more palatable? Shouldn't the default you want to be striving for is the one where you don't need an adblocker?
I don't think I'll use condoms ever again. I'd rather fap at home with weed and booze than insert penis in vegana with plastic interfering between them.
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Anonymous
Condoms are terrible. If the girl you're fricking is so disgusting you feel the need to wear a condom then you shouldn't be fricking her.
>You wouldn't be bothered if someone came knocking at your door every hour trying to sell you something?
Just put a no cold callers sign up man like i do, i don't LARP as Che Guevara and make massive over dramatic posts about the evils of advertising.
Install 1 addon, and the advertiser cannot bother you anymore.
It is not worth the energy to complain about.
completely based and correct. idk why autists on this board have to respond so insecurely. YES, we all use apps to cope with how shitty the net is now, and NO you are not smart for figuring that out. the big brain question is >where do we go from here?
Your knowledge is lacking.
Torrents require the internet, but they aren't websites. A chat program or even protocol, e.g, IRC, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal require the internet. They aren't websites.
A web browser is for browsing the web, the web is built on top of the internet. Email is also not something from the web, but something on the internet.
Got it?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you mentioned even comes close to the Web in functionality.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you posted is worth reading, stop putting words into other peoples mouths.
2 months ago
Anonymous
everything you mention relies on the web for interconnection and discovery at scale. but I'm guessing you're a greasy pedo happy with your private tracker group that specializes in e-girlslop.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I would kill you if I could 🙂
2 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing you posted is worth reading, stop putting words into other peoples mouths.
i guarantee I'm a better shot homosexual. cope, seethe, and dilate pls thx
2 months ago
Anonymous
a better shot at what? thinking of adult penises in childrens asses and veganas? or what are you better at, hmm?
>OMG!!! THEY ARE LIKE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING!!!!
What is it with moronic people on the net who think this is some 1960s Cuba level act of revolution to install an adblock?
I think it's fair to make an argument that... >Amazon has online market superiority for your day to day items >They make it deliberately hard to find the best item you may want >Instead they sponsor or promote items >So the best "thing" may be buried 30 pages in >They are essentially double dipping
Its not wrong in any legal sense, it just sucks that it's the case. It's like walking into the grocery store and they hid all the cheaper, fresh tomatoes behind the cereal boxes in isle 14 instead of having them there beside the ANKER HOTHOUSE TOMATOES (SPONSORED).
he forgot cookies.
every single fricking website comes with a popup.
they should be completely disabled by default. when i want them i can click a tiny link in the topright or something. frick advertisers. kill them with fire.
the pary's over .. I'm glad I got to experience the internet before the 'enshitification'.
As a wild west prospector going up during the advent of social media and stuff, I miss those days. Web3 was all hyped but fell flat.
Metaverse? Let's see
Look lads, I'll be honest with you: you're absolutely right about how fricked-up the Internet and modern technology is at the moment. It's easy to feel powerless at the state of it all. But I think you're missing something crucial. The fact that you could help fix some of this fricked up mess. If you wanted to: you could look into alternative communication technologies like meshtastic and figure out ways to design a new Internet. Maybe DIY long-range links could be possible?
You could figure out how to solve some of the most annoying issues with the current land-scape. Login systems are in-effect designed to be a pain in the ass to complete. They act as road bumps to stop spammers. You make them unique and make them fill out a bunch of bullshit and that imposes a cost on account creation. But maybe there is a better way to do this. Can you think of a way to allow access to system without account creation while keeping spam and abuse low? Maybe there is a solution others have missed.
The Internet as it stands is a bad design for privacy as IP is a fundamentally traceable protocol. Even VPNs aren't always safe. Is there a better way to do this? What about managing privacy issues that arise from living today? How can you minimize the amount of data you give out and limit the impact of a breach to different services (everything seems to be getting hacked.) I think that there are solutions to the problems the Internet faces today. But you need a plan. The boldest thing to me is when you realize that if you really wanted to you could change something that ought to be prohibited even if the way you do it is under-handed. That to me is what real freedom looks like. They ban my cute cat pics and you watch the news lads. let me tell you...
The only viable "alternative" is something like Tor or whatever that uses the existing internet infrastructure. I say this because in order to support the kind of global dissemination of information and media that we have right now, you need massive amounts of infrastructure in the form of millions of miles of fiber optic cable and servers all over the globe. Anything short of that and you're hopping in a time machine back to 1991 where you can post on a Usenet forum with 20 other people and that's about it.
Wireless mesh nets are not something that works on a large scale. Yeah, you could have some local intranet for a town or something but realistically that isn't going to happen and it's not going to actually be useful for anything.
https://i.imgur.com/l0BlkFa.jpg
This guy's complaints are really fricking basic and stupid. The internet sucks now because everything is highly centralized and every fricking day you have massive companies and governments conspiring to slowly turn the entire internet into a carefully curated walled garden where anything they don't like can be shut down or largely hidden from the public eye through legislation, DNS level blocking, domain hosts cancelling services, payment processors pulling the rug out from under site owners, and state orchestrated DDoS/hacking attacks.
>pls turn off adblock we need money >FRICK YOU *blocks* >ok subscribe to our journalism only $2.99 a month this is your last free article >FRICK YOU *changes useragent to googlebot*
just admit you don't want to pay for anything ever
Remember back when web 1.0 fansites used to exist? When domains were cheap and anyone could run a website because the ad money was guaranteed? Adblock literally killed that. It took the soul right from the internet and forced everyone to centralize into Big Tech sites like Twitter and Discord. When your favorite content creators said "turn off that pesky adblock" you should have listened. Now here we are, paying the price.
If someone wants to run a website it's not hard or expensive, the only costs are electricity and a domain name, which is like 10 dollars a year. All my shit just runs off a desktop PC, if electricity was prohibitively expensive here I could switch to a NUC or something lightweight.
literally the inverse happened moron. Dynamic advertising from Doubleclick combined with SEO created a number of perverse incentives that destroyed the internet.
Ad blockers exist because of the quantity and quality of ads, there are too many ads and most of them are just scams and malware. If there were fewer ads and malicious/scam ads weren't so common, there wouldn't be so many people using ad blockers.
I remember these exact posts being made 25 years ago. The internet was always full of shit and ads, the difference is back then you had no way to block them and needed to endure every website opening 5 popup ads. Your nostalgia is fake.
AI (and Pajeet) generated content should be added to this list. I have noticed that when doing engineering related searches many of Googles top hits are AI generated mumbo-jumbo. At it first seems legit content but if you have expertise in the field you quickly notice the "article" is full of small and large errors, making it complete misinformation.
Fricking this. What I’m looking for >literally one sentence that answers some question about an obscure technical point
What I find >1,000 links to sar videos that waste 20 minutes each to answer something that takes one sentence >oh and the answer they give is wrong
Not sure how to fix AI, but India should be range banned. The entire country.
>logins
Sure, but if I am not logged in why would they need a cookie for that? >website settings
Depending on what these settings are, they may o may not need to be implemented with cookies. >dark mode
Why does it need a cookie? Can't they use CSS media queries?
EU carved a exception for exactly that. If you only use cookies for logins, websites settings, etc (strictly necessary cookies) you don't need to do the consent pop-up. Cookies pop-up consent is only needed to track the user and sell their data.
The law should have
- classified cookie functions (functionality, internal statistics, advertising)
- required that the site ask the browser for your prefs, or ask you once (old browsers)
- obey the choice
It would have been trivial for browsers to add the preference.
This idiot thinks he was growing up as the internet 'came about.' Fricking moron, he's talking about the web obviously but he's too stupid to know that. His opinion should be discarded on that basis alone.
Hard agree with his 4th point, but I'll extend it to suggest that too many websites on the internet have broken elements (which may or may not be broken because of the adblock necessary to use today) that make navigating them a chore.
Although all web dev gets derided as not "real programming", it is actually like most forms of programming where there's like 5% of people who can do it well and just seas of people who are kind of out of their depth with the (admittedly arbitrary) demands of modern website development. The reason why websites ran so much better during Web 1.0 and early Web 2.0 is simply that there wasn't too much expected out of them, they presented the data and accepted the data that obviously the user wants to interact with when accessing the website, now that gets compromised with layers and layers of additional shit trying to collect data the user doesn't intend to give and (if the website isn't broken as frick because of it) ideally shouldn't even be aware of said data's existence and collection.
Too many websites end up being obviously unmaintainable lumps of shit now and I miss the days when most websites were built with teams of, at most, two or three people and solely did whatever it claimed to do.
>Complaining about "log in with google/facebook"
Yeah I love letting random morons store my personal information on their dubiously secure systems instead of a login token nobody can identify me with
>all of these opinions are posted here daily >someone on reddit posts it >suddenly all the opinions are wrong and invalid and the modern internet is good actually
Contrarianism is a disease.
just wait until AI slops is flooding the whole internet
facebook is already inundated with AI slop and people can't even recognize the fake pictures of a kid building a miniature ship model or grandpa baking a layer cake
lies will spread even faster which is very good news for the bolsheviks
AI will kill the internet, then humans or vice versa.
>Just a moment... >We want to make sure it is actually you we are dealing with and not a robot. >CAPTCHA security challenge >Match the characters >Slide the slidey doo-doo into the jiggy hole thingy >Select all images with acid trip manatees >Select the color of մ̷͈̐͒ե̵͉̾̎կ̵̥̀̂̇մ̷̯̟̑շ̶̺̖̽̉́ͅկ̷̜̩̆ո̷̫́ւ̶̹́͑̊յ̶̼̳̣̇͋թ̸̱̬̋̚ at thrembo o'clock
HE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE WORST ONE
The redditor isn't wrong but doesn't go far enough. The internet is dead outside of pages like reddit, twitter and youtube. I dread whenever I open an old bookmark of mine only to find some broken page.
Forums used to be a thing. Now good luck trying to find anything relating to your query that isn't on a fricking discord, facebook group or other closed group that can't be searched.
So much content, so many old websites and user pages have been scrubbed entirely from the internet.
Google Search itself has become near unusable. I remember being able to find so many things and being very good at finding exactly what I need. Now most of your results aren't relevant, every link is either some sanitized shit from an "official" page or straight up some Indian scam page generated by a bot. Reverse image search doesn't work. Images and videos constantly disappear but don't reappear anymore.
Everytime you visit a page you're forced to accept cookies or some other bullshit to even load the page. And don't even get me started on anti-adblock cancer.
It's dystopian and only getting worse. Now your image searches are filled with hideous AI-slop. Is nobody going to stop this?
Yep. Google went to shit, and I had to start adding "reddit" to search queries just to get a result that wasn't SEO clickbait. Then reddit started blocking all VPN IPs unless you were logged in, so I had to use old.reddit.com instead. And since a few days ago, even that doesn't work. I am so sick of this shit.
What a dumb post. It completely excludes the most important points that nothing on the internet is worth reading anymore because it's all SEO'd shit smeared Indian garbage.
>unless you let a page load absolutely completely, when you try to click on something it moves
this is a valid complaint. the rest just use an adblocker. But I do fricking hate when I try to click on something but as I click the webpage loads more shit and I click the wrong link
I just run a memory usage test with brave on a few websites.
1.IQfy IQfy catalog -> 40mb
2. Open a thread ->38mb
3. gmail(logged in) -> 348mb
4. twitter(elon's account) -> 100 mb
5. brave newtab -> 24mb
6.suckless.org -> 64mb
7. brave://blank -> 19.4mb
corporations, the state, subhumans and glowies destroyed the internet, i remember the internet 20 years ago, it was pretty slow but fricking great, so many forums where you could talk, chat rooms where you could talk without getting canceled, no modern politics/homosexualry everywhere (now you can't watch a movie or play a game without some modern politics/homosexualry)
Then Steve jobs happen, so you could access the internet while taking a shit, then a decade later after the first iphone you could buy a smartphone for 100-200$, so third world subhumans on the internet
>China
Does it count? How much does the great firewall block? >No Google >No YouTube >Specific word censorship >Most international news is blocked
Etc.
At least it can be fixed with ad-blockers unlike the shit that requires you to have an account or straight up doesn't let you access it because you are using a vpn.
>reddit
>not old.
Multiple morons detected.
only his 3rd point is valid. Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex. Either deal with it or don't participate
>using adblock is like wearing a condom
No... no it's nothing like that...
Enjoy your digital AIDS
4&5 are valid too
complaining about RAM usage is just fricking gay though. shut the frick up. It's not 2005 anymore grandpa, websites are now apps.
>websites are now apps.
apps shouldn't take 150MiB RAM either unless they're doing something with lots of data (like scientific computing or fancy graphical vidya). In case you're unaware, 150MiB is 1.2 billion ones and zeroes. It's the equivalent of 500 plaintext books (at 300KiB a book). What exactly is your shitty social media platform doing that needs its own private library's worth of memory?
this page we are writing on uses 96.1MB of memory.
i don't get half that
It's the web browser that uses that memory, moron. Loading this very same page in a 2004 web browser would work exactly the same, living in a much more responsive and efficient environment. And the computer running it might not even have one gigabyte of RAM. That's a ridiculous amount.
You are fricking braindead if you really think this primitive page needs that much memory.
>might not even have one gigabyte of RAM
or even 100 MB
>What exactly is your shitty social media platform doing that needs its own private library's worth of memory?
Tracking you, maybe?
Web devs are the very worst tier of programmer. They have NO IDEA how the machine works, which leads to not understanding what performance and/or memory impact something they do will have.
Source: I work with them and have to fix their shit.
>uhh it's 100ms, that's nothing
Their mantra seems to be that 100ms is zero time elapsed.
Here's a fun exercise for anyone doubting what I'm saying.
>Expose an API e.g. from a WASM module or via web view integration from Electron or Android.
>Ask your web dev to only call function A once at startup.
>Calls to function B must be matched by closing calls to C (begin/end pattern), and there can only be one such operation in flight at a time.
Simple stuff eh?
Try it.
Then imagine what will happen in your dialysis sessions when you're 60, when webshitters have made everything.
>websites are now apps.
And empty browser tabs are also apps.
This was actually about an empty browser tab. Understandable that it takes up 150MB. It's its completely own app, sitting there, waiting for you to load more apps into it. Get with the time gramps.
>get with it gramps
It used to be possible to do full color page layouts, with multiple apps open (Quark, Illustrator, etc), in 16 MB of RAM. That’s megabytes, not giga. And those apps were more responsive on a 100 MHz cpu than today’s apps on multicore GHz class machines. Modern software engineering is shameful.
>Why does every woman have herpes?
>Invalid complaint just use a condom
you're a bigger redditor than OP
complaint just use a condom
OR don't participate. Fricking dumb frick
quite easy for you I imagine
I don't think the internet is worse than before. I doubt the moron is a millenial as he says. malware and malicious ads were pervasive. today it's bad, but not as bad.
>they shouldn't
>but they do
either accept the reality and deal with it or go live in a forest, moron
>Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex.
???
Well yes, I definitely would like my partner to not have any STDs
have a nice day NOW
Adblock is theft.
diverting my attention from the content i'm actually looking for is theft
Like who cares? I like free stuff. If ads were good like LTT (that can't even use the terminal) says, the community wouldn't make ad blockers in the first place, it's the same problem with Netflix and piracy, if their services were good, no one would pirate, except brokies.
He got his kids covid vaccinated.
Opinion discarded.
heres the deal... theres placing ads, and then theres just being a shitty capitalist company raping users for every penny. if companies would put, like, one or two ads on a page, then thatd be fine. but when they put one or two hundred.. its just sheer greed. then they wonder why people use ad blockers. maybe if they were reasonable about their ads, people wouldnt block them.
Eyyy chill homie, no need to announce that you're a cuck.
having sex with a condom is worse than not having sex at all. So many years of not having sex and having FOMO about it just to get into a committed relationship where I don't need one and realize I didn't miss anything at all
/thread
It's like homosexuals (both in figurative and literal sense) who complain about getting diseases and other shit but then you ask them if they wear protection. They look at you with that fluoride stare.
Not my problem anymore if they get herpes or the gonorrhea, unironically lost a few friends because I was being too "obnoxious" with my advice. I never had unprotected sex and asked tests of all my girlfriends in college. Not removing the plastic until I want to make children.
>Complaining that you need to use adblock is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex. Either deal with it or don't participate
the funny part is that women and atheists says this unironically
That analogy only works if all the women on earth are prostitutes.
lol, i've fricked a few prostitutes and i still refused to wear a condom
>Be living in a nice space
>everything is great
>buttholes move down the block
>They start dumping trash all over their lawn
>more and more people start dumping trash on their lawn
>people begin shitting on the streets
>Then some people begin throwing that shit at houses
>soon your neighborhood becomes a dump
>"just use drugs bro, then you won't be able to perceive the problem. Complaining that you need to use drugs is like complaining that you need to wear a condom during sex"
Apt analogy for anyone living in the US or Canada.
my parents are immigrants and I'm the only one in my friend group of engineers that is outraged about the abysmal quality of life
Canadians just do drugs and go to drag shows then look at me weird when I dare complain or imply that we live worse than the third world in many aspects
honestly if white urbanoids weren't like this I'd put all of my energy into trying to fix this country because I've lived in it my entire life and I don't believe in just giving up on what's yours that easily, but everyone I talk to is either brain damaged on the "right" or a passive man of inaction on the "left", as soon as I secure a job in the gulf I'm uprooting my family and leaving because waits in the emergency rooms are upwards of 14h with a open wound
Except sex without a condom feels better than sex with a condom, so there's incentive to not use one. The internet is only worse without adblock. Your analogy is fricking moronic.
any reasonably intelligent person should be able to find solutions to these issues
if your point is
>why does it have to be so bad
it's because people are moronic now and there's no point trying to "save" the internet
only thing you can do is make your tiny space of the internet good
>people are moronic now
>now
I recently watched a David Attenborough documentary on india. They've been moronic for millennia.
remember that webm of 2 old indian men walking on the tracks when a train is coming and 1 gets run over. the other loses his legs and hops away
this is what happens when the internet became about business.
how are you using infinity after the 3rd party app ban? are you paying for fricking reddit?
Things may be bloated, but they are definitely faster than when I was using dialup. I don't get popups so I dunno about that shit. Is that common?
Yes, unfortunately. People basically use these graphical dedicated pagers which can now run operational systems np, and sites take advantage of this by digitally screaming about their agenda. It's basically a literal street market-tier distracting, except computers and without the advantages.
For me it's when social media is just a platform for companies to sell something to you. You think they're places for you to look at funny videos and stalk your friends' lives? No, you're going to look at sponsored boosted posts and you will purchase the product. If you ignore them, we'll pay your followed content creators to shill them to you.
Skill issue.
>b-but I need to install extensions!
Oh no, how will you ever manage?
why do you accept this as the default though? why is your idea of a good default to install an adblocker to make it so the web is more palatable? Shouldn't the default you want to be striving for is the one where you don't need an adblocker?
That is correct. It's burger's "not my problem" mentality.
Wrong. Actually, it's the nu-Moralists with:
>if you are dumb enough to get fricked over you deserve it
Which is pretty twisted, but whatever.
>it is another moron with low impulse control moaning about adds on the internet.
You know you can always not open your wallet right?
Go back to Tiktok, zoomers.
Condoms are still a prank.
I don't think I'll use condoms ever again. I'd rather fap at home with weed and booze than insert penis in vegana with plastic interfering between them.
Condoms are terrible. If the girl you're fricking is so disgusting you feel the need to wear a condom then you shouldn't be fricking her.
Enjoy your six bastards.
>enjoying a piece of media
>suddenly a blaring or flashy ad appears, interrupting you
You wouldn't be bothered if someone came knocking at your door every hour trying to sell you something?
>You wouldn't be bothered if someone came knocking at your door every hour trying to sell you something?
Just put a no cold callers sign up man like i do, i don't LARP as Che Guevara and make massive over dramatic posts about the evils of advertising.
Install 1 addon, and the advertiser cannot bother you anymore.
It is not worth the energy to complain about.
>I visit websites I do not like and now I am mad. The world is ending!
Women moment
completely based and correct. idk why autists on this board have to respond so insecurely. YES, we all use apps to cope with how shitty the net is now, and NO you are not smart for figuring that out. the big brain question is
>where do we go from here?
the net ain't the web, pal
Oh yeah let me Gopher, Telnet and FTP my content.
Your knowledge is lacking.
Torrents require the internet, but they aren't websites. A chat program or even protocol, e.g, IRC, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal require the internet. They aren't websites.
A web browser is for browsing the web, the web is built on top of the internet. Email is also not something from the web, but something on the internet.
Got it?
Nothing you mentioned even comes close to the Web in functionality.
Nothing you posted is worth reading, stop putting words into other peoples mouths.
everything you mention relies on the web for interconnection and discovery at scale. but I'm guessing you're a greasy pedo happy with your private tracker group that specializes in e-girlslop.
I would kill you if I could 🙂
i guarantee I'm a better shot homosexual. cope, seethe, and dilate pls thx
a better shot at what? thinking of adult penises in childrens asses and veganas? or what are you better at, hmm?
the web is dead. no one uses hypermedia anymore, it's all huge monolithic javascript monstrosities. that "ain't the web", kiddo
filter bubble/skill issue
install yandex browser
He's not wrong. Even ublock only goes so far as well.
>OMG!!! THEY ARE LIKE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING!!!!
What is it with moronic people on the net who think this is some 1960s Cuba level act of revolution to install an adblock?
?
Did you think this was an apt comparison? Perhaps even a clever one? Because it's neither. You're just a homosexual.
You dropped your Beret and your gay card.
My beret and gay card don't make you less of a homosexual.
>They are trying to sell me something
>The site he was browsing
>Amazon.com
Hahahaha
I think it's fair to make an argument that...
>Amazon has online market superiority for your day to day items
>They make it deliberately hard to find the best item you may want
>Instead they sponsor or promote items
>So the best "thing" may be buried 30 pages in
>They are essentially double dipping
Its not wrong in any legal sense, it just sucks that it's the case. It's like walking into the grocery store and they hid all the cheaper, fresh tomatoes behind the cereal boxes in isle 14 instead of having them there beside the ANKER HOTHOUSE TOMATOES (SPONSORED).
he forgot cookies.
every single fricking website comes with a popup.
they should be completely disabled by default. when i want them i can click a tiny link in the topright or something. frick advertisers. kill them with fire.
the pary's over .. I'm glad I got to experience the internet before the 'enshitification'.
As a wild west prospector going up during the advent of social media and stuff, I miss those days. Web3 was all hyped but fell flat.
Metaverse? Let's see
the modern internet sucks, i hope putin blows up all the datacenters worldwide and resets everything
>dOnT YoU mEaN tHe WeB? tHe WeB iS nOt ThE nEt
Look lads, I'll be honest with you: you're absolutely right about how fricked-up the Internet and modern technology is at the moment. It's easy to feel powerless at the state of it all. But I think you're missing something crucial. The fact that you could help fix some of this fricked up mess. If you wanted to: you could look into alternative communication technologies like meshtastic and figure out ways to design a new Internet. Maybe DIY long-range links could be possible?
You could figure out how to solve some of the most annoying issues with the current land-scape. Login systems are in-effect designed to be a pain in the ass to complete. They act as road bumps to stop spammers. You make them unique and make them fill out a bunch of bullshit and that imposes a cost on account creation. But maybe there is a better way to do this. Can you think of a way to allow access to system without account creation while keeping spam and abuse low? Maybe there is a solution others have missed.
The Internet as it stands is a bad design for privacy as IP is a fundamentally traceable protocol. Even VPNs aren't always safe. Is there a better way to do this? What about managing privacy issues that arise from living today? How can you minimize the amount of data you give out and limit the impact of a breach to different services (everything seems to be getting hacked.) I think that there are solutions to the problems the Internet faces today. But you need a plan. The boldest thing to me is when you realize that if you really wanted to you could change something that ought to be prohibited even if the way you do it is under-handed. That to me is what real freedom looks like. They ban my cute cat pics and you watch the news lads. let me tell you...
I dunno if this is copypasta or not.
The only viable "alternative" is something like Tor or whatever that uses the existing internet infrastructure. I say this because in order to support the kind of global dissemination of information and media that we have right now, you need massive amounts of infrastructure in the form of millions of miles of fiber optic cable and servers all over the globe. Anything short of that and you're hopping in a time machine back to 1991 where you can post on a Usenet forum with 20 other people and that's about it.
Wireless mesh nets are not something that works on a large scale. Yeah, you could have some local intranet for a town or something but realistically that isn't going to happen and it's not going to actually be useful for anything.
This guy's complaints are really fricking basic and stupid. The internet sucks now because everything is highly centralized and every fricking day you have massive companies and governments conspiring to slowly turn the entire internet into a carefully curated walled garden where anything they don't like can be shut down or largely hidden from the public eye through legislation, DNS level blocking, domain hosts cancelling services, payment processors pulling the rug out from under site owners, and state orchestrated DDoS/hacking attacks.
>.network
huh?
Everything the man said was true.
>pls turn off adblock we need money
>FRICK YOU *blocks*
>ok subscribe to our journalism only $2.99 a month this is your last free article
>FRICK YOU *changes useragent to googlebot*
just admit you don't want to pay for anything ever
Why the hell would anyone give a journalist money?
Remember back when web 1.0 fansites used to exist? When domains were cheap and anyone could run a website because the ad money was guaranteed? Adblock literally killed that. It took the soul right from the internet and forced everyone to centralize into Big Tech sites like Twitter and Discord. When your favorite content creators said "turn off that pesky adblock" you should have listened. Now here we are, paying the price.
Spoken like a true homosexual.
If someone wants to run a website it's not hard or expensive, the only costs are electricity and a domain name, which is like 10 dollars a year. All my shit just runs off a desktop PC, if electricity was prohibitively expensive here I could switch to a NUC or something lightweight.
literally the inverse happened moron. Dynamic advertising from Doubleclick combined with SEO created a number of perverse incentives that destroyed the internet.
Ad blockers exist because of the quantity and quality of ads, there are too many ads and most of them are just scams and malware. If there were fewer ads and malicious/scam ads weren't so common, there wouldn't be so many people using ad blockers.
I remember these exact posts being made 25 years ago. The internet was always full of shit and ads, the difference is back then you had no way to block them and needed to endure every website opening 5 popup ads. Your nostalgia is fake.
AI (and Pajeet) generated content should be added to this list. I have noticed that when doing engineering related searches many of Googles top hits are AI generated mumbo-jumbo. At it first seems legit content but if you have expertise in the field you quickly notice the "article" is full of small and large errors, making it complete misinformation.
Fricking this. What I’m looking for
>literally one sentence that answers some question about an obscure technical point
What I find
>1,000 links to sar videos that waste 20 minutes each to answer something that takes one sentence
>oh and the answer they give is wrong
Not sure how to fix AI, but India should be range banned. The entire country.
remember when EU mandated that every website has to spam every user with cookies notification spam?
Good going eu
It's frickign annoying but at least it gives me a chance to reject the tracking of all the 2600 companies
Why are you blaming the EU here? The websites could just stop tracking us then they wouldn't have to put the banner there you know.
cookies are used for essentially 100% of websites and store info like logins, website settings, dark mode or whatever
>logins
Sure, but if I am not logged in why would they need a cookie for that?
>website settings
Depending on what these settings are, they may o may not need to be implemented with cookies.
>dark mode
Why does it need a cookie? Can't they use CSS media queries?
EU carved a exception for exactly that. If you only use cookies for logins, websites settings, etc (strictly necessary cookies) you don't need to do the consent pop-up. Cookies pop-up consent is only needed to track the user and sell their data.
The law should have
- classified cookie functions (functionality, internal statistics, advertising)
- required that the site ask the browser for your prefs, or ask you once (old browsers)
- obey the choice
It would have been trivial for browsers to add the preference.
This idiot thinks he was growing up as the internet 'came about.' Fricking moron, he's talking about the web obviously but he's too stupid to know that. His opinion should be discarded on that basis alone.
I get his point, it would be a great world if we didn't have to use adblocks.
Hard agree with his 4th point, but I'll extend it to suggest that too many websites on the internet have broken elements (which may or may not be broken because of the adblock necessary to use today) that make navigating them a chore.
Although all web dev gets derided as not "real programming", it is actually like most forms of programming where there's like 5% of people who can do it well and just seas of people who are kind of out of their depth with the (admittedly arbitrary) demands of modern website development. The reason why websites ran so much better during Web 1.0 and early Web 2.0 is simply that there wasn't too much expected out of them, they presented the data and accepted the data that obviously the user wants to interact with when accessing the website, now that gets compromised with layers and layers of additional shit trying to collect data the user doesn't intend to give and (if the website isn't broken as frick because of it) ideally shouldn't even be aware of said data's existence and collection.
Too many websites end up being obviously unmaintainable lumps of shit now and I miss the days when most websites were built with teams of, at most, two or three people and solely did whatever it claimed to do.
>Complaining about "log in with google/facebook"
Yeah I love letting random morons store my personal information on their dubiously secure systems instead of a login token nobody can identify me with
He's completely right and it doesn't have to be that way, it is only that way due to greed and incompetence
>OLD GOOD NEW BAD
chud thread
>all of these opinions are posted here daily
>someone on reddit posts it
>suddenly all the opinions are wrong and invalid and the modern internet is good actually
Contrarianism is a disease.
PEBMAC
works on my machine
gatekeeping morons on the web is good.
https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/ is a work of art
kek this site made me angry so hard despite being sarcastic. wi'm really glad I use script and adblockers daily.
in my experience it tends to be way worse, because it's slow as shit too. That website is way too fast to be an example of modern web cancer.
just wait until AI slops is flooding the whole internet
facebook is already inundated with AI slop and people can't even recognize the fake pictures of a kid building a miniature ship model or grandpa baking a layer cake
lies will spread even faster which is very good news for the bolsheviks
AI will kill the internet, then humans or vice versa.
obsessed with child intercourse much? mr big shots of cum into kids holes?
piece of shit you, die motherfricker
DIE
The internet always sucked, now it just sucks for different reasons.
>Just a moment...
>We want to make sure it is actually you we are dealing with and not a robot.
>CAPTCHA security challenge
>Match the characters
>Slide the slidey doo-doo into the jiggy hole thingy
>Select all images with acid trip manatees
>Select the color of մ̷͈̐͒ե̵͉̾̎կ̵̥̀̂̇մ̷̯̟̑շ̶̺̖̽̉́ͅկ̷̜̩̆ո̷̫́ւ̶̹́͑̊յ̶̼̳̣̇͋թ̸̱̬̋̚ at thrembo o'clock
HE DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THE WORST ONE
I hate captchas so much
The redditor isn't wrong but doesn't go far enough. The internet is dead outside of pages like reddit, twitter and youtube. I dread whenever I open an old bookmark of mine only to find some broken page.
Forums used to be a thing. Now good luck trying to find anything relating to your query that isn't on a fricking discord, facebook group or other closed group that can't be searched.
So much content, so many old websites and user pages have been scrubbed entirely from the internet.
Google Search itself has become near unusable. I remember being able to find so many things and being very good at finding exactly what I need. Now most of your results aren't relevant, every link is either some sanitized shit from an "official" page or straight up some Indian scam page generated by a bot. Reverse image search doesn't work. Images and videos constantly disappear but don't reappear anymore.
Everytime you visit a page you're forced to accept cookies or some other bullshit to even load the page. And don't even get me started on anti-adblock cancer.
It's dystopian and only getting worse. Now your image searches are filled with hideous AI-slop. Is nobody going to stop this?
Yep. Google went to shit, and I had to start adding "reddit" to search queries just to get a result that wasn't SEO clickbait. Then reddit started blocking all VPN IPs unless you were logged in, so I had to use old.reddit.com instead. And since a few days ago, even that doesn't work. I am so sick of this shit.
You can tell who in this thread never lived in the pre-internet time.
What a dumb post. It completely excludes the most important points that nothing on the internet is worth reading anymore because it's all SEO'd shit smeared Indian garbage.
This guy is an idiot for deliberately not using the extremely effective and obvious solution to his problem.
what would that be?
suicide
>unless you let a page load absolutely completely, when you try to click on something it moves
this is a valid complaint. the rest just use an adblocker. But I do fricking hate when I try to click on something but as I click the webpage loads more shit and I click the wrong link
The way things are going, the dark web might just become the best internet experience at the expense of its privacy
I just run a memory usage test with brave on a few websites.
1.IQfy IQfy catalog -> 40mb
2. Open a thread ->38mb
3. gmail(logged in) -> 348mb
4. twitter(elon's account) -> 100 mb
5. brave newtab -> 24mb
6.suckless.org -> 64mb
7. brave://blank -> 19.4mb
>7. brave://blank -> 19.4mb
this is criminal
corporations, the state, subhumans and glowies destroyed the internet, i remember the internet 20 years ago, it was pretty slow but fricking great, so many forums where you could talk, chat rooms where you could talk without getting canceled, no modern politics/homosexualry everywhere (now you can't watch a movie or play a game without some modern politics/homosexualry)
Then Steve jobs happen, so you could access the internet while taking a shit, then a decade later after the first iphone you could buy a smartphone for 100-200$, so third world subhumans on the internet
>China
Does it count? How much does the great firewall block?
>No Google
>No YouTube
>Specific word censorship
>Most international news is blocked
Etc.
At least it can be fixed with ad-blockers unlike the shit that requires you to have an account or straight up doesn't let you access it because you are using a vpn.
>moron can't figure out ad blockers for 30 years
kek