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That's all I'll gonna say about this kinobook.
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judging from the cover it looks like a trip
the goofy robotic animals lost me
yeah I also thought it would have been better if nothing resembling life (even if it is just a machine) was included.
Adding the robots that do menial tasks kinda humanizes the misterious builders of Rama since building robots is someting that humans would also do.
The book got less interesting the more that the expedition made sense of some elements of the ship
truly. i just finished it and MAN what a let-down. couldn't recommend on any grounds. no discernible talent.
Roadside Picnic did it better
This and the city and the stars are his best novels. Couldn't finish Imperial Earth (felt too much like a tour guide of future Earth, the Titanic wreck being well preserved in one piece took me out as well as the dumb love triangle; I liked how Clarke predicted the Internet, PCs and pocket computers.).
Rama being hard sci fi makes this a winner by default. The Invincible is great Soviet era hard sci fi as so I heard.
I already saw the movie. I will try properly rereading Childhood's End and Songs of Distant Earth (I read them as a kid when I was first getting into sci fi) as well as Imperial Earth.
I read 2010 as a kid but have no interest in rereading it.
It's too slow for Hollywood and too massive for small scale.
>hard sci-fi is better
Reddit
Most of the sci fi your average Redditor is into is soft sci fi (Trek,Mass Effect, Dune and PKD though I love the latter too as well) or science fantasy (Star Wars). I like soft sci fi too and plenty of soft sci fi novels are better than a fair share of hard sci fi, but hard sci fi has a sense of tangibility something like melange or telepathy does not.
latter two.
I remember reading two hard sci fi classics (Ringworld and Eon) and how they both have moronic sex scenes that ruin pacing. But while I prefer stuff like Dune over stuff like Imperial Earth, I still have a soft spot for hard sci fi.
Yes. Rama is a Great classical mechanics problem for those so inclined. There is some filler here and there though. I generally like clarke but I just couldn't finish fountains of paradise. Childhood's end was also quite mediocre imo. Ghost from the grand banks was alright too.
This was alright. The subgenre is kino, where aliens exist but don't give a frick about us.
I really enjoyed these books when I was a kid. just saw them on my shelf today. might need to reread.
>These
Sequels too? How?
there's like 4 books man.
yeah and everything after the first is dog shit.
I was like 12 and loved reading bad sci fi books.
I read an excerpt from the second and it felt awful and lacking the magic of the first. I will take the blandness of the characters from the first to the sheer irritation of what I saw in that excerpt. Why did Clarke allow someone else to write the sequels? At least with 2001,the sequels had his voice.
I'm pretty sure he never intended for there to be a second book and the publishers wanted more after the first book was such a success so he allowed them to hire new writers who were shit.
i'll go one step further. i LOVE the blandness of the original characters. rendezvous with rama is the only book i've found to have such loveably bland characters. they're just at work. they all know that this is the most important thing they'll ever do so they don't quibble over anything. they just do their fricking jobs.
I had a hard time visualizing the interior of Rama. I kept seeing it as a series of concentric circles, rather than the inside of a cylinder.
The one ACC novel I can't believe hasn't been filmed yet is A Fall Of Moondust. It's got everything: a relatable setting, a diverse cast, a race against time, women in their underwear -- I don't see how it could lose.
I recall liking The Hammer Of God - there was something vaguely humorous about a potential world-ending asteroid strike.
2010 was OK; 2061 was meh; 3001 was terrible.
You would like Earthlight: professionals going about their business against the backdrop of looming interplanetary war.
thanks, i'll check it out.
Gentry Lee penned the sequels and Clarke just said sure. They're very much different than the original and filled with weirdo psuedo-pedophilic shit.
lol I haven't read them since I was a kid but I don't remember that
There is one scene in particular I think in the third book where the characters go into a kind of deep hibernation. A long time passes and their bodies age at a fraction of the normal speed. By this time, the man and woman who had been fricking in the previous book had children on Rama and they enter hibernation as maybe 7 years old and when they wake up, their bodies have aged to 18. But mentally they're still 7 since the hibernation happened instantly as far as they're concerned.
So, there is a lengthy scene where the 7 year old girl whose body is now 18 explores her post-puberty body and jerk offs to orgasm in front of a mirror. In a book series about exploring an alien ship!
how the frick do I not remember this? bro was on some steven king shit.
When you're a kid, you don't really understand how fricked up that is for a grown man to write.
wait, i thought book 1 established that all astronauts are sterilized. what happened?
It takes place on a different Rama ship that followed after the one from the first book, so different crew, I assume. It's been over a decade since I read it but I assume she was an OC.
Here's a review from a non-Rama book he "wrote" with Clarke called Cradle:
"I’m all for character development and, if it’s pertinent to future events, I don’t really mind if it drags a little. But the first few hundred pages of Cradle are filled with more-or-less pointless character development, clearly written by Lee, that would be perfectly at home in a Harlequin romance novel. A few pages of sci-fi, clearly not written by Lee, are interspersed so that the reader may be reminded that they paid $6 for a Clarke novel and not $2 for a grocery store romance tome."
The Rama books are about the same, though Clarke specifically said he didn't write a word, just pitched some ideas to Gentry Lee.
>so different crew, I assume.
yeah but it was all astronauts. not just all those astronauts. must have been a retcon.
Most stuff like this in silver age scifi came from weird Jack Parsons / Hubbard type Crowleyan occultism or literal demon worship disguised as scifi.
>I really enjoyed these* books when I was a kid. just saw them on my shelf today. might need to reread.
>>* (cf.)
So, there is a lengthy scene where the 7 year old girl whose body is now 18 explores her post-puberty body and jerk offs to orgasm in front of a mirror. In a book series about exploring an alien ship!
Absolutely. I love it. Ruined sci-fi for me because it was the first thing I read of genre. Really nothing as good.
I'd also recommend:
- Childhood's End
- 2001: A Space Odyssey, it's not the same as the film, I don't even consider them the same story. But still worth reading.
-The City and the Stars, the short story version is better but this is still worth reading
Oh and his short stories, there are many of them and some are short but they are great.
What's your opinion on the Space Odyssey sequels? I thought they were pretty insubstantial personally.
I've got 2001, Childhood's End and Rendezvous. Which one should I start with?
Rendezous, then Childhood. I recommend reading City and the Stars after that.
>- Childhood's End
Is this the life and times of Arthur C Clarke after he admitted molesting all those young boys in Sri Lanka?
In an interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson in February 2012, Freeman indicated an interest in playing the role of Commander Norton for the film, stating that "my fantasy of commanding a starship is commanding Endeavour". Tyson then asked, "So is this a pitch to be ... that person if they ever make that movie?" to which Freeman reaffirmed, "We are going to make that movie." In response to a plea to "make that come out sooner rather than later", Freeman reiterated that difficulty in authoring a high quality script is the primary barrier for the film, stating "... the only task you have that's really really hard in making movies, harder than getting money, is getting a script ... a good script".[20]
Denis Villeneuve is turning it into a movie
I liked Blade Runner 2049, Dune (even though it cuts parts from the first half of the book), and most of Arrival (even though the twist ending ruins the movie), so I think it will be good.
A fellow fan of Big Dumb Objects I see.
You might also like space odyssey 2001.
Id avoid the second rama book if you enjoyed this one.
This book is cool. I like it. Bump
The sequels are kinda shit, not written by Clark. They are more about human drama. Proceed at your own risk.
>The sequels are kinda shit, not written by Clark. They are more about human drama. Proceed at your own risk.
oh. that's disappointing. I just downloaded them to read as I enjoyed the first one