>Dante and Shakespeare divide the world between them. There is no third.
Didn't Eliot forget someone?
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>Dante and Shakespeare divide the world between them.
True
One wrote a bible fanfiction and another cuckold porn plays
Great art, e*ropeens
>Dante
>fanfiction
Why do redditors have such a moronic view of literature?
If you're writing about funny interactions between existing characters that are not your own that is fan fiction. Whether it's a teenage girl writing about harry potter characters or some long dead nerd lifting characters from history, the only difference is in it's quality.
In that case Homer and Shakespeare are also fanfiction.
Yes.
Most of the best literature ever written is fanfiction
It's not fan fiction because there is no "fan" aspect in it, imbecile.
Being a "fan" is mostly a contemporary, popular culture phenomenon; Dante's relationship with God is not that of being a "fan". You can be a fan of a band, not a fan of God, or even of Virgil. It's an entirely different kind of relationship.
>uhhhh, Dante didn't write fanfiction even though he did by every definition because ehhh...le word didnt exist back then!
By extension Shakespeare wrote fanfic as well. So did Homer
Homer DOES deserve to be in there, frick Eliot.
Eliot didn't want Homer to be added to the Western canon because he knew it'd mean that stories inspired by his works, like The Adventures of Sinbad the Sailor, would have to be included in the list too.
In other words, he wanted to do everything possible to exclude sandBlack folk.
He comes before, long before during the birth of poetry itself. Dante and Shakespeare are Christian poets.
;_; >He didn't mention my favorite pagan in his essay on renaissance poetry so now I have to b***h and moan like a we wuz.
Cervantes
Does Virgil actually mog Homer on a purely literary/formal level or is that just something pseuds say to sound smart?
I objectively like Cervantes more than either Dante or Shakespeare but he was a humor writer who doesn't have the same aspirations.
Formally noone has ever matched the level of autistic perfectionism that Virgil put into his works. This doesn't show as much in the Aeneid as it does elsewhere because it is unfinished, but if you consider that most of Homer, excluding some small bits, wasn't even composed, in the modern sense of the term, there is really no debating which one is more formally refined.
It makes you think that this sort of opinion is always coming from anglos (Eliot) or angloids (Harold Bloom) from the northeast of the USA. I am including Lovecraft and others as well in this pattern. It is ridiculous how anglocentric they are; it is as if they have never actually critically approached literature. I wonder if Eliot would have dared to express such an opinion while he was in Oxford kek.
Eliot didn't want Homer to be added to the Western canon because he knew it'd mean that stories inspired by his works, like The Adventures of Tinbad the Tailor, would have to be included in the list too.
In other words, he wanted to do everything possible to exclude sandBlack folk.