Like 90% of any site is something else than the content you came there to watch.
Why dont people realize this? Whenever I explain these things to normies their minds misfire and go blank
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Those aren't dark patterns.
it is brother
recommendations exist to frick your mind
anything that rapes your nervous system is dark pattern design
>it is brother
you're brown
Learn to have some will power you homosexual.
Black person what do you think this site is
it never pretends to be more than it is
.>it is brother
you're probably dark pattern design
This guy gets it
Read this book. Understand why this is a serious concern.
Ever wondered why mental health issues have skyrocketed in the last decade?
OPs topic is so very relevant.
And to add...
Those here saying "just ignore", " full screen" etc etc have no idea what they are talking about. They have no idea HOW this crap works on the human brain and on what parts of the brain it ruins.
agreed
My browser hides all ads and my youtube plug-in hides all recommendations, comments and sets the landing page to my subscriptions. 99% of youtubes problems solved right there
I'm building a new content platform that is designed to frick the user as little as possible
No recommendations
No upvotes
No ads
Just the vid file, nothing else
People will screech though, they want distractions and low IQ brainpoop
>I'm building a new content platform that is designed to frick the user as little as possible
Consider using LBRY as the backend.
>No recommendations
part of why people (including me) even use these platforms is to discover new content
>No upvotes
up- and downvotes are useful for alerting other viewers to harmful content, e.g. scams
>No ads
That's fine, but how do you plan to finance the platform?
>we demand recommendations, upvotes and user comments
Are you there to watch a movie or socialize?
Comments arent that bad (even though theyre just normie circlejerks these days), but recomms and upvotes are literal cancer. Did you know that the Finnish IQfy has had voting on posts for a long time now? You wouldnt want every IQfy post to have scoring, would you? It's absolute fricking cancer. People no longer write down their arguments, they just push a feeling button instead. Say something bad about women, you get -50 votes, nobody even explains why, say something bad about incels, people give you +50 points and you win gold account days. Voting is just thinking with your feet and wearing your heart on your sleeve which is what you dont want. Downvoting the shit out of incel posts has become a form of passive aggressive violence on Ylilauta
Admins like these features because they ADDICT. Yes, voting fricking addicts. I have written a book on dark patterns because it's alarming as hell that not even IQfy people understand the underlying psychology behind web design decisions.
>up- and downvotes are useful for alerting other viewers to harmful content, e.g. scams
More like you dont even watch an intellectual video because some IQ 60 people got offended by it and downvoted it off your stream.
Anyway frick you Jez, you're a typical social media consumer. regards Mark Corrigan
>didn't answer the question about financing
lemao
>I need recommendations to find new content
No you dont.
How do you think I found content on Newgrounds and JJ.AM in 2004?
Definitely not through some AI analysis on my personality.
Ok so you don't.
How are you gonna keep the browns out of your new piece of white internet?
I'm excited for this, make a thread and keep us posted. Make sure it doesn't turn out like preddit.
>No recommendations
Genuine recommendations would still be good.
I mostly watch science and engineering related channels.
So if someone made a new science or engineering channel tomorrow I would like to hear about it.
But all the "recommendations" I get are consoomer crap, YouTube doesn't want me to watch more science and engineering they want me to watch ads disguised as content.
>People will screech
People won't use it all, don't kid yourself.
But it's exactly this
>they want distractions and low IQ brainpoop
They're not dark patterns because they're literally what people want. They want to go on israelitetube to waste time.
You're an economic-terrorist.
So just a file hosting site? You get the same effect by uploading it to some cloud storage and sending the link out.
>plug-in hides all recommendations
What's it called?
nta, but "unhook" can do all of that and more.
Freetube is even better, though.
Wow if only there was a button to make the video bigger (theater mode) or a button to make the video take up the full page (fullscreen).
Why do you see comments / other videos as "distractions"? For some people they're an essential part of the site
Of course they'll keep you on the site longer - because they're interesting. Should we require all sites to be less interesting to accommodate your baby-like self-control?
>Why dont people realize this?
Have you not heard about all the criticism against tiktok for this exact same thing? And it's not just youtube and tiktok using addictive content, it's on facebook, reddit, snapchat, everywhere.
You must be living under a rock or something if you don't know about algorhytms making addictive watching patterns by now.
I think your biggest issue is that you're poor at explaining it and sounds like a schizo.
You're the kind of person that don't realize that the browser listens to your conversations and look through your search history to give your targeted advertisement, aren't you?
I had to stop using one of my phones because I couldn't stand that it listened to my conversations. It was extremely provoking, and I never figured out how to turn it off.
meds
The scary thing is that no, your phone isn't listening to your conversations. It's all due to connecting data and metadata.
How did Instagram know that I was out of multivitamins and showed me an ad when I was thinking about getting more? I didn't vocalize it, I didn't type/text it, I don't take them on routine. Sometimes I feel like my mind is being read and it makes me uncomfortable. Not schizo either but damn.
>How did Instagram know that I was out of multivitamins
Whoever you bought the previous pack from sold your data to a broker
Multivitamins are a pretty generic topic. Nothing strange about that. You are the one making the connections. How many ads did instagram show you? How many products do you actually buy regularly or talk about with others? There is bound to be some overlap. Especially since that is exactly the job of targeted advertising. You likely have previously positivels interacted with content about food supplements, too.
I use Graphene OS and Instagram PWA in a container. I guess maybe my transaction information was sold, I can see that it'd be linked to the name on my card, likewise with the stalking that meta platforms do. There have been other instances that I can't recall but this is not the first time I have felt this way. I don't exactly have conversations with other people about vitamins, maybe my partner. But it happened within like, 5 mins of thinking about it as I ate the last two. Got an ad for the same brand too.
It's mostly a coincidence. You ignore the countless times you talked about or needed a product and didn't see an ad for it, or saw an ad which had no connection to your recent experiences.
However the store selling the transaction information (what you bought, when, and where) is definitely also possible and would further help the 'correct' timing of the ad.
>Instagram & Maps read location
>Receipt info is sold to ad companies
>???? Multivitamins on receipt, 30 pk
>Wait 30 days
>???
>Profit
FB Messenger is :^)
this is IQfy bro anyone that says they fell for a dark pattern or distraction will be blamed for falling for the dark pattern or distraction
things are never the company's fault only the users
have you seen the "new" youtube with comments panel to the right
I dont use Youtube. I literally dont. I must be the only person in the world
>comments are a dark pattern
>recommendations are a dark pattern
You need to be over 80 iq to use this website, sir.
Yes but they are not simply comments and recommendations. They are also UNSOLICITED. That is the key factor.
If you needed to open them separately you'd complain about how the israelites at google are trying to save money by only loading stuff when absolutely necessary or some equally dumb shit.
>They are also UNSOLICITED
only for you moron, just download the unhook extension if you hate it so much, they have toggles for both so it only shows the video
Social media is a cancerous waste of time. I'm sorry you can't see that, zoomzoom.
4chuds is social media
>chuds
>no argument
I'm a millennial and I've probably been on the internet longer than you've been able to even read. I'd argue IQfy is an equally big time waster.
i've wasted over half my life on IQfy, you've already lost if you ended up here
It's so you watch more than one video, the same thing as when you go shopping and 90%+ of the stuff you see are not those you came for.
First scenario: you come, you quickly buy what you wanted, and you leave.
Second scenario: you come, you see tons of shit you may be interested and you end up buying more than what you came for.
They're here to make money, nothing else.
i never did think of it in that way, the way in which you showed us with your opening image and words. thank you very much kind sir. i think im going to be living happier, more fulfilling life now
you mean you can't just... ignore it?
my mother has a hard time and, because of it, she has suffered tremendous grief over the past decade. the government should do its job!
I use a Perl script that rubs yt-dlp and populates my Downloads folder periodically. That is how I "subscribe" to channels.
Youtube recs and comments aren't dark patterns, you fricking moron. Learn what the word means. Neither of these two are even that bad, one is for engaging in content you were interested in and the other was originally for helping find similiar content you were already looking for.
Dark patterns are explicitly about shit that is malious or otherwise trying to trick people to do things they otherwise wouldn't. Like fb trying to eat all your data and making it hard to understand what they are getting and hiding the opt-out fairly deep. Or an online store having an opt-out button on final buy page in a out of sight spot for paying extra money for something. Or like clicking through a bunch of confirm screens and the last one asks something people really don't want but they switch the colours of the ok and cancel button so most people will misclick as you parse colour long before text.
my youtube client doesn't have this problem
>comments have been disabled due to all the /b/ tards
you probably didn't even need for this video kek
its probably because you can't efficiently articulate your point even though in your head it sounds right.
A classic sign of midwits that think of themselves as high IQ btw.
those are good you Black person
actual dark patterns are those fricking "youtube shorts"
>can't scroll the video or see the duration
>every single "short" has the most obnoxious title just straight lying about the content
>comments are hidden behind a click to make it more time consuming so you can't check them quickly to see if the "short" is bullshit
>videos are limited to 1 minute so they are hyperactive and skip over all the details
>instead of a list of similar "shorts" below the video you get the fricking dopamine treadmill attention span annihilator
>>can't scroll the video or see the duration
You dont need to scroll a 15 second video, anon.
Try pressing the "F" key
To pay respects?
if those are dark patterns this book is the Necronomicon
>t. 2,1 tilaajaa
Install the "Unhook" addon. Thank me later.
Is a grocery store having more things than the 3 you went in to buy a dark pattern? moron
Nice reductionism, you disingenuous moron.
90% of the shartmart is distractions, not the content I came for... help me shopperman I'm going insane... I can even see the brand names on everything I walk by I can't survive one more day of being force fed advertising like this please bro I can't take anymore
it is.
there should only be a single brand of butter, milk, eggs, etc available, and only basic products, pretty packages are also a dark pattern
Moronic statement.
Spotted the kid.
If they also try to sell electronics, gardening tools, porno mags, lottery tickets, etc. etc. then yes.
I come there to buy groceries, not porn.
I would be equally annoyed if my local sex shop tried to sell me carrots.
grocery stores sell the same product aimed at different target groups in different packaging at different prices. yes, those are dark patterns. you're deceived into getting 'your' version, instead of just the cheapest one.
She doesn't buy dudewipes
It's more like if you went to the grocery store and someone follows you around putting things in your basket that you don't need.
dude fricking wait until you figure out why there's always baked goods and sweets at the entrance of a walmart and a line of impulse candies and drinks at the checkouts
it's literally the original "dark pattern", just not called something so dramatic
I work for a popular south-eastern supermarket and we merchandise things based on pairing/impulse. If we put it in your face, you will buy it.
>pip on corner
>keep browsing/working
any way to block this? I don't want to be a IQfy prisoner
You're here forever
posting porn leads to a 3day vacation
use invidious or enchancer for youtube if you hate it so much. this shit has existed since day 1 for youtube, the algo has just improved. so stop complaining.
meds
Hush child, adults are talking
whatever you say, schizo
Mass marketing is such a cancer. I'm tired of all the predatory practices, even though I can recognize them. Imagine what it's like for kids growing up with this
>LE EBIL DISTRACTIONS
You have free will (I assume), simply choose to not get distracted.
No one is forcing you to read comments.
No one is forcing you to watch other videos.
Theater Mode exists.
Fullscreen exists.
Yeah this is exactly why I use RSS feeds. It's just the content extracted from the website and no extra bullshit.
RSS has fallen so far out of favor that it's barely even discussed on IQfy now, but it's still very much worth it.
You're still reading propaganda, though
you can fullscreen the video anon
>Kirjaudu sisään
Finland doesn't exist
also you forgot the big channels that have ads with their merch all over the page
I intentionally ignore comments because I have noticed lately that the bot generation is spitting out so many accounts it has given up on even pretending to be humans anymore.
Plus most of the comments seem to be more about distracting from actual video subject matter, as well as cause arguments that further derails from the subject matter in the video.
I could be wrong
>press F
>now your entire screen is content
congratulations you just solved the internet
>press F
>now half of the screen becomes black instead of showing your other windows
>fell for the ultrawidescreen meme
Use the Tablet player or full screen. Why would you get a huge screen and then watch a content in a phone's dimention?
Stay based bro, I had to use 3 add-ons to make youtube usable, and recently they decided to frick them only for a change of you getting hooked more time in their shitty platform
I've been using mpv and rss feeds for Youtube/Odysee, never looked back. It evens blocks the annoying sponsors inside the videos.
Trying to keep you on a service is not a dark pattern.
Dark patterns are deceptive web designs that hide information from users, particularly if said information is widely advertised/promoted to people. Or tricking people into additional services.
ie. the *free* service TurboTax was required to provide by law to those who qualify ... their "Freedom" and "Free Editions" were not free, (and not the aforementioned free service they were required to provide.)
i recently discovered youtube-local, which i'm really liking so far
https://github.com/user234683/youtube-local/
it's a python-written web app that provides an alternative frontend to youtube, similar to invidious but intended for local/personal use. it has integrated sponsorblock, and the ability to proxy both metadata and/or streams through tor (i'm not using that part though, it's optional)
it's way, way faster than using regular youtube in pale moon, i've used invidious instances for a while, but they can be hit-or-miss sometimes, they don't seem to support the highest quality formats, and it doesn't have integrated sponsorblock (double checking that apparently the sponsorblock extension itself supports invidious, but since i use pale moon, i can't use the sponsorblock extension)
now i've only been playing with it for a day, so we'll see, but so far it's been pretty nice
If invidious/ weren't so moron they would make a one click installer.
what?
Man hate these things
just use invidious
This is the the wildest dark pattern I've seen in a while lmao
When I hovered over the Deny button (that's greyed out to begin with) it didn't even highlight to indicate you're on it like with the other buttons
Nasty shit the shit these websites are doing lol
I've never clicked on a recommendation because they always look stupid. How do I make the algorithm give me something that I would like?
by searching, clicking on videos, liking videos, disliking videos, pretty much any interaction sends signals that shapes recommendations.
And don't clear your cookies, or it all resets back to square one.
I have like 50 yt tabs deloaded that I'll likely never watch
>why is firefox using so much memory I have no idea lol
schizolarp bait thread