>desktop: 75W idle, 300W-800W load
>laptop: 7W idle, 20W load
there's no justification to owning a desktop
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>desktop: 75W idle, 300W-800W load. >laptop: 7W idle, 20W load
i don't even look at my power bill
isn't it hot in your room during summer? I have AC but I don't want to have it running just because of my computer
Typical NEET. Have some mercy on your parents, chud.
My energy bill amounts to like 40 burger bucks a month. Even if I left my PC on 24/7 it wouldn't be higher than like 50. What hellhole do you homosexuals live in where your prices are so high you have to worry about a desktops usage.
All the big cities that millennials and zoomers have been memed into moving to have 20-40 cent per kw/h energy costs
Really? Lmfao. I live in a "big" US city and I pay ~10c p kwhr
Don't big cities have lower electricity costs because you need less cables to serve the same amount of people?
EuroBlack folk pay a lot more for electricity. Pity the poor fools.
Of course, but your mom does.
h-how would she get access to my power bill?
She backdoored your Gentoo
its called a smart meter that shows you how much electricity being used
>anon not using PC = $1 an hour
>anon using PC = $5 an hour
The joke is that they were implying I lived with my mom and I was pretending not to get it
Thanks for not misgendering me and using a neutral pronoun. This site became much better for non-binary folx recently.
No problem friend
must be hard to live with morons
Anon try $0.01 per hour. Compared to my AC unit my computer barely shows on my power bill and I run my 4090 24/7 with AI.
we had a cold few months here in florida where I didn't have to run my AC. the power bill went from $280 per month to $103 and most of the $103 is mandatory to keep the pool pump running otherwise I'd be around $30
>to install smart meter I have to change the electric company plan to daily rates instead of static monthly ones
>won't let them homies israelite me anymore and install it
>prices go from 20/40euro cent a kwh to few euros on some days
WTFFFFFFFFFFFF
me2
Lmao this, I put that shit on autopay and don't give it a second thought
don't post my wife again
This.
My PC barely puts a dent in my power bill, even leaving it on 24/7
>linux drivers: 75W idle, 300W-800W load
>windows drivers: 7W idle, 20W load
fixed
>desktop: 75W idle
amjeet skill issue
17w + RAM, motherboard, fans, storage
+ monitor & keyboard/mouse
's no justification to owning a desktop
no?
i want to play games on max settings when I come home from work, work laptop is a macbook
besides having a decent GPU
>there's no justification to owning a desktop
Just buy carbon credits and then you can use 120,000 watts at idle and 420,000 watts whilst gaming. Go green.
that's just one solar panels worth of power though
it's also literally the same amount of energy as a bedroom space heater, as they start at 750W, and your computer expels all energy as heat, so that's literally a space heater in your room in the summer.
Just drill a hole in the wall, run a vent pipe from the PC to the hole. Now your PC is just a fart-remover.
that's why my computer is in an enclosure and cooled using geothermal cooling and a water pump that's solar powered. your heatsink is two pounds of copper? cute. mine is 5.9722×1024 kg of every single element.
Nice try
those are basically laptop internals though
yes, this is true
desktop CPU, but some laptops have that too.
5w idle thoughbeit
llama3 70b took 4.5gw to train, it's a few days output from a large power station. it's basically nothing
Who cares
energy is like 10cents
wait
your not a yuropoor are you
Why, are you about to bark that Russian bullshit about Europeans freezing? Go die in a drone video already, subhuman.
A dozen hohol conscripts died screaming while you typed this post
Projection, the crutch of the moskal moron.
Ukraine lost though
You lost your anal virginity during military service, pidor.
Kek this won't get your lost territory back, piggy
Your pink sock will never heal.
Desktop computers should be banned to fight climate change
If you are serious about climate change and not trolling, then we would need to have a serious discussion about banning "crypto currencies" and especially LLM's. Both demand so much power people are buying up old coal power plants and firing them back up.
Non state controlled cryptocurrencies and LLMs should be banned. Not only is this necessary to fight climate change but to fight fascism too.
this is a fake talking point by concern trolls that only sounds like it's valid to normies. the amount of electricity used is insignificant when compared to similar uses, same with the water used for cooling datacenters.
the whole VISA network power usage is actually minimal compared to the bitcoin network
that's not an apples to apples comparison to bitcoin though
Indeed, VISA is the apple and bitcoin is some goylop candy. One bitcoin action consumes 580 000 times energy and uses 1 000 000 times the CO2
wrong
You're just using that cryptocurrency to buy CSAM anyway, chud
I don't use cryptocurrency for anything other than an investment vehicle, I was talking about LLMs and other AI models.
>water used for cooling datacenters
Datacenters use water exactly once. They are a closed loop cooling system. The same water circulates for years and the oxide from the pipes is captured by filters.
If you want to have a serious discussion about water then first get rid of 100% of all soft drink companies. One soft drink company uses more water in one day than a datacenter uses in 100 years. Worse, some of the soft drink companies are producing their drinks in desert regions like Arizona and New Mexico where water is already scarce. California has a higher water allocation than them so they also drain all the ground water.
>hourly 3rd world energy crisis thread
yawn
you shouldn't be proud to be wasteful, fren.
Why not get a desktop with laptop-tier hardware.
Redpill me on reasons to own a desktop PC other than muh bing bing wahoo
ergonomical posture
working
big screens
separated keyboard
think before you typing sirs
you can literally do all of that with a laptop lol
My desktop setup usually sucks ~100w during light tasks and only during heavy gpu+cpu load that it will go above 500w continuously, meanwhile there is no equivalent laptop in performance to my i7 13th + 4070 super, shill israelitetuber will say otherwise because they are paid to do so and u're juwt a homosexual op who can't afford a decent desktop setup
Desktop gaming is a luxury. If you can't afford the associated costs then you're there is no justification to owning a desktop (for you).
it's not about costs moron. it's about heat
What laptop should be the only computer people are allowed to own and why should it be the libreboot x200t?
Macs are the most power efficient laptops.
You're asking for a world where everyone is government ordered to own a macbook.
>Macs are the most power efficient laptops.
No, they absolutely aren't.
Are you sure about that? Efficiency as in lowest performance-to-power ratio. Since Macs are closed platforms I guess they can optimize them better, making them more efficient.
They definitely are.
>cinebench
Not important.
Macbooks and iphones are for roasties, govt-mandated Apple gear would be a crappier timeline
My power bill is ~$25/month.
I have a server and 2 desktop pcs running 24/7.
My laptop had a 330W power brick
Honestly, power consumption was one of the main coping arguments I used to justify why my piece of shit laptop that runs like crap, overheats all the time, sounds like a jet turbine, is overpriced as frick and can't be easily upgraded was a better buying decision than a desktop
Forgot to mention that eventually the GPU just exploded and I had to get a desktop
It's about 2x as powerful and was still cheaper than the laptop (75%)
Even if I were to blast it 24/7, it would take months for that difference to even out, but since I run mine in hybrid mode, the idle power consumption is a joke and it needs maybe 500W under load (350W max for the GPU, but it's undervolted; ~70W for the CPU because it's not an intel), but the only time I saw my GPU max out was when I ran benchmarks
because you bought some moronic gaming laptop, the dumbest device ever created
A 20W laptop is shit and slow so I'm going to use something good and fast instead, even if it uses 500W 😉
Simple, just buy a 100W PSU. Then you'll never have to worry about the power bill ever again.
well what PoC laptop should one get? intel ones are crap on battery life. amd ones are slow and hot. iToy is a gazillion dollar tablet.
old shitpads are out of the questions. slow + trash battery + shit build quality.
new shitpads are even worse.
>soldered ram
>soldered ports
>soldered drive in some cases
it's bascially ishit lite
>amd ones are slow and hot.
Sure, back in 2013.
name a model homosexuals. name an under 1k euro mdoel. idc
Lol there is no good perfotmance laptop model other than macbooks, if you like having a battery life beyond 20 minutes and don't want to carry some big ugly abomination around.
m1 macbook air
you're just making up problems
Desktops are less secure
Laptops are like computers but for women.
/g/ents an maled normies struggle with computers no less than women, laptops are for everyone, moron
iPhones are for dumb roasties
>IQfyents an maled normies struggle with computers no less than women
Could you repeat that in English?
cope, gaytops are for women en homosexuals
t. troony
>iPhones are like computers but for women.
fixt dem dadgum typos
The cost of running the air conditioning during the 3 months of 100 degree heat we have here makes little things like computers shrink to nothing in comparison.
and you have to run it more if you have a space heater as a computer
It doesn't really heat up the house much at all. I also have a ceiling fan in the room anyway.
>have a old inspiron gaming 15 and m15 r2 i got for like 500 bux 2yrs ago
>sick of 16gb of ram so look up upgraded models like r18 and r16 r17 etc
>prices fkn nuts
frick not having user upgradable ram
still cheaper buying a lappy than a stupid overpriced 79xtx 4090 thats just about to be outdated and still costs over 1k
at this point, there really isn't. maybe a decade ago there were still big benefits, but not anymore.
the single reason to use a desktop is if you need a powerful GPU for work stuff. that's it. a laptop will do the exact same thing otherwise
> Upgrade laptop
> What?
> Upgrade your laptop... put a different GPU in it...
> I .... I can't...
> Exactly
/Thread
why would i want to do that
insane people "upgrade" their pcs constantly instead of just building a new one every 10 years or so
I replace my GPU and CPU every 4 years. Maybe a full system build every 8.
> playing manchild video game
So own a laptop then
>worse performance than a desktop
>can't upgrade
>worse mobility than a tablet+keyboard and Steamdeck
Imagine owning a laptop.
>worse performance than a desktop
not true in 99% of tasks
>>can't upgrade
upgrading consumer electronics is fricking moronic
mobility than a tablet+keyboard and Steamdeck
simply false
Guys look at this fricking moron
thy defiance strikes a jarring chord, yet I shan't smite thee, for thou art already burdened by thine own misconception
>poorgay that cares about milking his P4 as far as possible
>1 device vs 3 devices
True.
Pozzed game devs, Kikrosoft, and the greedy semiconductor industry all joined forces in curbstomping x86 so badly that it is now on par with consoles and Apple. PC "masterrace" shills will deny this but really there is no hiding that most dev studios are treating PC players like subhumans, we always get console ports that require a 7800X3D and a 4080 just to run at a quality better than a PS4. Or sometimes they don't give a shit at all and just keep it an exclusive. PC-only games are crappy UE school projects that are stuck in early access for 20 years. Windows 12 will have forced unremovable ads and 32GB minimum RAM. And Linux still lacks features, I know that half the programs on my desktop won't even run on it. Even """budget""" gaming builds cost at least 1000$ total, yet the masses keep flooding in building computers they don't really need and keeping prices high.
It's so fricking over, even AI isn't worth it because I'd rather pay 20$ a month for a paid service that btfos any local alternative, ends up being cheaper in the long run.
My desktop idles at ~300W
This avalanche of shit of a thread brings up an important point: there is no software tool to measure your PC's TDP accurately.
Can't put a big heatsink in a laptop so that even during heavy workloads the fans don't spin up to audible levels
>inb4 fanless laptop
The performance on those is still utter shite
So about a 1:3 ratio in both cases?
all of these idiots ITT talking about electricity prices lol
>go to cafe with my laptop
>free electricity
desktop goons are literally incapable of thinking
>buys a coffee for the price of the electricity needed to power a desktop for a whole month
Yeah but with my macbook air I can pick up cute twinks at starbucks. Can't do that with an optiplex.
there aren't a lot of cafes around me. the only place I can go and hangout for an extended period of time is Starbucks
what am I, your social worker?
>laptop: 7W idle, 20W load
>the laptop in question
most laptops are around that
Of course not, you moronic clown.
they are
don't give a frick energy is cheap and I'm not poor
Now try hooking up your laptop to a couple of 4K monitors.
what makes you think that's hard to do lol literally any iGPU from the last decade can do that
he's a dumbass boomer who hasn't owned a laptop since like 2008. literally only boomers use desktops.
couldn't help but 'mire them digits
Do you even know what this thread is about? Most power draw comes from the monitors once you get a couple of good ones
no it doesn't lol a 24" 1080p monitor uses like 10W. a 27" 4K monitor uses like 20W. it's nothing compared to what a desktop uses
Nah, you're clueless. I have both a laptop and a desktop. I easily quadruple the power consumption of my laptop once I hook it up to my monitors.
And that's during benchmarking. When laptop is idle, it would be tenfold+.
>posting the 32" 4K 144hz monitor with extra shit like KVM
quit fricking around anon
but you plug it into your desktop too...so it's the same amount of power. it's not "more" because you plugged it into a laptop lol. it's still an inefficient POS monitor, and your desktop is also an inefficient POS.
- 5W chromebook
The funniest part is that there are fricking morons in this thread building 1000W gaymer housefires, but still spends 99% of their time browsing IQfy.
Thank God I managed to wake up before falling for this meme money sink.
My 10 years old Thinkpad is still running heavy PS3 games on RPCS3, I was even able to play the fricking RE4make on Steam at moderate settings.
I literally don't need more.
>yuropoors are so cucked that 800w of electricity is expensive