John 1:18.
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."
>Did he claim to be God?
No. Other people just said that about him. He claimed specifically NOT to be God. John 10:31-37 shows him being accused of making himself out to be God. He defends himself against the accusation, saying he's no more god than his accusers.
While some apologetics would use that to say that Jesus was being clever, it is the opposite. Psalm 82 is referring to El Elyon presiding over a council of Elohim, who are gods. Therefore it's basically saying that Jesus is a son of God (El) and divine in Himself, Jesus would probably be the "Elohim" who was given the whole world to rule and judge.
He explained that no man can truly be "God" since God is fundamentally metaphysical, however he did reveal through the affirmations of others that he was the Son of God, which is the physical human avatar that perfectly emulates the metaphysical personhood of God. Then you have the Holy Spirit, which is the personhood that connects God and man, the metaphysical with the physical, which is why it appeared to Jesus when he got baptized.
Now you know why the Holy Trinity is a necessary theological construct.
Before he died? Probably not, maybe just picturing himself as the son of man of Daniel. After? Definitely.
"Who do you say that I am?"
?
I miserable pile of Most High secrets.
>Did he claim to be God?
No.
"And Jesus said unto them, I am God." John 6:15
>Before Abraham was, I Am.
Too vague
No. That's some shit made up by his butt buddies after he died. Just like the Trinity. He clearly speaks about his "father" as a different person.
That's because His father is El Elyon. Why do you think Allah (YHWH) gets so pissed off about the idea of having a son?
Yes, he did.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
That could mean anything.
John 1:18.
"No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."
John is fanfiction.
Heavily disputed translation.
By Jehovah's Witnesses, and who cares what they think?
It’s the only translation that works. Be so fr rn how does this make any sense.
But, seriously, why was he so cryptic about it?
Just go like: I am literally God
then we'd have fewer heresies
He did.
Jesus didn't exist.
That’s been debunked.
He didn't even exist as a human.
That’s been debunked.
>durrrrr if I repeat this enough it will change historian consensus durrrrrrrr
>truth is a popularity contest
What's the consensus on him doing miracles?
>Did he claim to be God?
No. Other people just said that about him. He claimed specifically NOT to be God. John 10:31-37 shows him being accused of making himself out to be God. He defends himself against the accusation, saying he's no more god than his accusers.
So is John or Jesus lying?
While some apologetics would use that to say that Jesus was being clever, it is the opposite. Psalm 82 is referring to El Elyon presiding over a council of Elohim, who are gods. Therefore it's basically saying that Jesus is a son of God (El) and divine in Himself, Jesus would probably be the "Elohim" who was given the whole world to rule and judge.
He explained that no man can truly be "God" since God is fundamentally metaphysical, however he did reveal through the affirmations of others that he was the Son of God, which is the physical human avatar that perfectly emulates the metaphysical personhood of God. Then you have the Holy Spirit, which is the personhood that connects God and man, the metaphysical with the physical, which is why it appeared to Jesus when he got baptized.
Now you know why the Holy Trinity is a necessary theological construct.