8 years ago I bought the penguin editions of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Hume's A Treatise of Human Nature and I never made it past 20 pages of each text
Is Hume that bad? I was hoping to make a quick run through a few big name philosophers like Hume and Kant before getting into Schopenhauer. I know Kant is notorious for his obscurity but I was under the impression Hume was at least somewhat more digestible.
lol I literally bought both of these the first day I came on IQfy except I studied them briefly in school and knew what to expect and I actually wanted to read them
I wouldn't say memed, but I have certainly bought books I haven't enjoyed as much as I was hoping. Any of Ernet jungers works is what I am referring to.
I bought Ulysses and A Portrait of the Artist after listening to IQfy. Haven't read more than 30 pages of them, because it's too much postmodernist frickery for me at the moment.
I can to IQfy when both it and I were young so there was not much of meme culture yet and I was too poor to buy anything but what I found in used book stores anyways.
Neither are remotely postmodern and not even all that extreme as far as modernism goes.
Williams is infuriating, he has moments of absolute greatness but always spoils it, generally by describing something banal in pointless detail that adds nothing.
not bait. the protagonist is a pathetic little homosexual and nothing he does is worth reading about. if the prose was beautiful there would be a point but it isn’t. Stoner sucks dick.
>McCarthy
Used to be easy to find but Blood Meridian became popular so his books aren't easy to come by now (with him dying they'll become even more rare). Overruns of The Passenger/Stella Maris should be available by this time next year but my guess is they sold well and you'll have to wait another year for overrun paperbacks. good luck finding anything other than The Road. >Ulysses, Moby Dick
Both of these are easy to find. New editions from major publishers come out continuously and they're both in the public domain (i.e. there are a lot of shit publishers who crank out disposable editions).
8 years ago I bought the penguin editions of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Hume's A Treatise of Human Nature and I never made it past 20 pages of each text
I had a similar experience, though I got a few chapters in.
I think the issue with Kant is that he's just very inefficient at expressing the key ideas.
try again:)
it took me a dozen tries but you start to automatically understand each term in all its depth. Like the first time you read and define 'intuition' you have to pause and consider and think about. After the hundredth time you just instantly recognise it as conscious objective representation
if that's not your jam it's ok, but I promise you the heights (or depths if you prefer) redeem it
The key ideas of CPR are in the Preface, Transcendental Aesthetic, the Antinomies and parts of the Transcendental Analytic. You can certainly get the key ideas in 80 pages or less. The rest is Kant autistically working out the details of what every key idea entails.
Never read a single page of Count Kantula’s squirrelly philosophy and Nietzsche was generally not a problem as long as you read supplementary material from internet philosophy blogs
I heard a lot about Mishima here, so I read “ The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea” and it was pretty good, although it seems I didn’t understand the end like one should lol, I was pretty disappointed that it stopped at the moment he drank his tea
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Wrt kantgays: Read prolegomena first for Kant. Also he is necessary for Hegel sure but you can read Nietzsche fine without. Ancient greeks may be good for Nietzsche tho tbh
100% of my purchases have been done following the IQfy 2018 chart and seeing which books get discussed often here
I loved e-girlta (so much to consider it my second favourite book, it also introduced me to Nabokov's other fantastic work like Pale Fire and Ada), I loved Blood Meridian (which introduced me to Cormac McCarthy) and I loved the dystopian trinity (Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and 1984)
I don't know why there's such animosity towards books that are recommended by IQfy, I haved loved every single one and I'm glad I did because they have enriched my life substantially more than if I had spent the time reading them doing drugs or playing videogames
I haven't read e-girlta yet but I very much agree. Most of the stuff recommended on here is genuinely really good. You just have to be able to discern the difference between books that are actually being recommended and books that are being memed or shilled.
i'm always puzzled by the acclaim this book gets here. it's just a normie thriller that happens to feature classics students and classics students read it and are like "omg that's so me" and uncritically love it?
I got meme’d into Catholicism by online image boards like this. Luckily I got out of it but it was weird how it happened and that phase of mine made me realise how susceptible I am to online propaganda
Gravity's Rainbow and Ulysses to feel smart, before realizing that I wasn't smart, nor did I care about contents of these books. Just read what interests you. I ended up putting those books in free library in the park.
I wouldn't quite say I was meme'd into reading them but I've purchased a few books that were disappointments in one way or another. Off the top of my head were >Steppenwolf >Melmoth the Wanderer >A large tome on the history of Western philosophy >The Secret Teachings of All Ages (I still think it's neat but it was not quite what I expected) >1984 >The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner
Not all of them were what I would consider "bad," just disappointing.
Henlo bros, brainlet here.
For years I've been neglecting to read anything, but recently I got really interested in philosophy.
Dont know where to ask, but I dont want to create a tard thread just for this, and this thread might be on topic for me. Picrel books suggested in one of the sticky recommendation images are still good starting points right? Dont know how the frick amazon works, I have placed my order but no payment was made yet, so I can still change things up if these books are not a good starting point.
8 years ago I bought the penguin editions of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Hume's A Treatise of Human Nature and I never made it past 20 pages of each text
Is Hume that bad? I was hoping to make a quick run through a few big name philosophers like Hume and Kant before getting into Schopenhauer. I know Kant is notorious for his obscurity but I was under the impression Hume was at least somewhat more digestible.
Depends which Hume book, An Enquiry concerning the principles of morals, isn't that hard. But some of his books are difficult
lol I literally bought both of these the first day I came on IQfy except I studied them briefly in school and knew what to expect and I actually wanted to read them
I wouldn't say memed, but I have certainly bought books I haven't enjoyed as much as I was hoping. Any of Ernet jungers works is what I am referring to.
I bought Ulysses and A Portrait of the Artist after listening to IQfy. Haven't read more than 30 pages of them, because it's too much postmodernist frickery for me at the moment.
I can to IQfy when both it and I were young so there was not much of meme culture yet and I was too poor to buy anything but what I found in used book stores anyways.
Neither are remotely postmodern and not even all that extreme as far as modernism goes.
>main modernist author
>so good he's now post-himself
>Joyce
>postmodern
Nice b8
Bought Stoner a few years ago. What an utter piece of fricking shit. I have no idea why people are still pretending that it’s any good.
Stoner filters another brainlet
if filtered means bored to death thanks to no memorable writing or story then yeah i was filtered
Williams is infuriating, he has moments of absolute greatness but always spoils it, generally by describing something banal in pointless detail that adds nothing.
>pretending
It's very good though.
It's fine to dislike a book, but spewing vitriolic hatred at Stoner? Get the frick out of here with your bait.
not bait. the protagonist is a pathetic little homosexual and nothing he does is worth reading about. if the prose was beautiful there would be a point but it isn’t. Stoner sucks dick.
You need to be 18 to post here.
I’m reading Stoner right now. I absolutely love it.
Don’t listen to that moron. Stoner is one of the only good books this place talks about on a regular basis
book of the new sun books 1+2. they're not bad, but just not my thing. I did like the first 100 or so pages of book one though.
I haven't purchased yet, but if I see them in the second-hand book store, I'll probably grab them. McCarthy, Ulysses, Moby Dick.
>McCarthy
Used to be easy to find but Blood Meridian became popular so his books aren't easy to come by now (with him dying they'll become even more rare). Overruns of The Passenger/Stella Maris should be available by this time next year but my guess is they sold well and you'll have to wait another year for overrun paperbacks. good luck finding anything other than The Road.
>Ulysses, Moby Dick
Both of these are easy to find. New editions from major publishers come out continuously and they're both in the public domain (i.e. there are a lot of shit publishers who crank out disposable editions).
I just wanted to read Nietzsche and people told me I HAD to read Kant first. Never read past 50 pages of CoPR
I had a similar experience, though I got a few chapters in.
I think the issue with Kant is that he's just very inefficient at expressing the key ideas.
try again:)
it took me a dozen tries but you start to automatically understand each term in all its depth. Like the first time you read and define 'intuition' you have to pause and consider and think about. After the hundredth time you just instantly recognise it as conscious objective representation
if that's not your jam it's ok, but I promise you the heights (or depths if you prefer) redeem it
The thing about Kant is he always tries to walk it in.
The key ideas of CPR are in the Preface, Transcendental Aesthetic, the Antinomies and parts of the Transcendental Analytic. You can certainly get the key ideas in 80 pages or less. The rest is Kant autistically working out the details of what every key idea entails.
Never read a single page of Count Kantula’s squirrelly philosophy and Nietzsche was generally not a problem as long as you read supplementary material from internet philosophy blogs
I heard a lot about Mishima here, so I read “ The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea” and it was pretty good, although it seems I didn’t understand the end like one should lol, I was pretty disappointed that it stopped at the moment he drank his tea
(blogpost ends here)
it's called buying infinite jest
Yes
These days I mostly read digital copies, latest read
Grim.
Sloterdijk is great. Not a meme, sir
Wrt kantgays: Read prolegomena first for Kant. Also he is necessary for Hegel sure but you can read Nietzsche fine without. Ancient greeks may be good for Nietzsche tho tbh
100% of my purchases have been done following the IQfy 2018 chart and seeing which books get discussed often here
I loved e-girlta (so much to consider it my second favourite book, it also introduced me to Nabokov's other fantastic work like Pale Fire and Ada), I loved Blood Meridian (which introduced me to Cormac McCarthy) and I loved the dystopian trinity (Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World and 1984)
I don't know why there's such animosity towards books that are recommended by IQfy, I haved loved every single one and I'm glad I did because they have enriched my life substantially more than if I had spent the time reading them doing drugs or playing videogames
I haven't read e-girlta yet but I very much agree. Most of the stuff recommended on here is genuinely really good. You just have to be able to discern the difference between books that are actually being recommended and books that are being memed or shilled.
This place had me under the impression that this was meant for adults to read
>foid author
That should have given you a hint.
she cute tho
I never understood rape until I saw her face.
That’s more a mainstream meme than a IQfy one. See this shit recced on goodreads
i'm always puzzled by the acclaim this book gets here. it's just a normie thriller that happens to feature classics students and classics students read it and are like "omg that's so me" and uncritically love it?
I have never seen this shilled on IQfy before. On the contrary, I see tiktok girls who read trash like colleen hoover reccomend it
Well I had to have seen it recommended here because I don’t know where else I would’ve found out about it
I got meme’d into Catholicism by online image boards like this. Luckily I got out of it but it was weird how it happened and that phase of mine made me realise how susceptible I am to online propaganda
I bought a collection of Nick Land's writings. What a load of gibberish.
Gravity's Rainbow and Ulysses to feel smart, before realizing that I wasn't smart, nor did I care about contents of these books. Just read what interests you. I ended up putting those books in free library in the park.
Yeah, Moby-dick. Way too long.
No, I'm not stupid.
I've never found a book too difficult to read. With infinite resources at your fingertips, there's no excuse except laziness.
I wouldn't quite say I was meme'd into reading them but I've purchased a few books that were disappointments in one way or another. Off the top of my head were
>Steppenwolf
>Melmoth the Wanderer
>A large tome on the history of Western philosophy
>The Secret Teachings of All Ages (I still think it's neat but it was not quite what I expected)
>1984
>The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner
Not all of them were what I would consider "bad," just disappointing.
Henlo bros, brainlet here.
For years I've been neglecting to read anything, but recently I got really interested in philosophy.
Dont know where to ask, but I dont want to create a tard thread just for this, and this thread might be on topic for me. Picrel books suggested in one of the sticky recommendation images are still good starting points right? Dont know how the frick amazon works, I have placed my order but no payment was made yet, so I can still change things up if these books are not a good starting point.
Good start I'd get Philosophy Before The Greeks and something on the Summerians with Gilgamesh and The Laws of Hammurabi.
Thanks! Will check these out too, thanks for the recommendations.
Yeah and Behead All Satans is the best book of the 21st century
Yeah, didn’t regret it tho.