You don't want your monitor to remain powered on do you when you leave it? Monitors keep backlight on during any connection. Docks are also a problem and keep providing power to the monitor, Windows S3 (sleep) event ejects the DisplayPort PNP device.
You shitc**t.
Both HDMI and Displayport have a sense pin specifically for cable disconnect so that the computer knows if you're just turning off the monitor, putting it to sleep or actively disconnecting it.
The problem is many Displayport connected monitors act like they have been disconnected when they haven't.
moron, Displayport is working exactly how sleep mode is suppose have work on mointors in the first place. It was broken on HDMI/DVI. It either disconnects or DVI/HDMI port and mointor gets confused with handshaking.
Blame the Energy Star initiative for the whole and simply disable power saving for monitors if it is boring you so much.
made me wonder why there is not a clean standby entry command on this fancy interface. every time the os decides that its monitor standby time it makes the monitors show the no signal error instead of just putting them in the mode cleanly
It is because of Energy Star initiative. Eco-gays are trying to cutdown on "vampire" energy consumption.
Displayport monitor behave more like build-in laptop displays.
>turn computer on >all 3 DP monitors on sleep >HDMI tv is "off" >Only my "main" display turns on, other 3 dead not extended >All activate/extend if i turn on the TV
WHY, this never used to happen, do I need to reset something? I use my tv when I need it, no point in having it on all the time.
>two hdmi >two dp >start pc >it goes through each monitor to find the main one >finally boots after half a minute >sometimes only one monitor is turned on and it's not the main one >sometimes the entire boot procedure is fricked and just freezes because it can't pick a monitor to use >have to power every monitor and pc off/on for it to work again >after a few months I realize I have to switch my main monitor off/on after I boot the pc for the procedure to work like it should
I have something similar on my system. Boot takes forever and one of my screens literally never wakes up from sleep and I have to disconnect and reconnect it which causes the OS to cycle through all the displays for a few minutes before it finally works.
I also had this very particular problem when I got my 4th monitor, 4k 144hz.
I couldn't render videos out of this software until I had removed and out my gpu back in.
Must be related to bandwidth.
Also glad I'm not alone with these issues, it means we're not insane.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Windows and Nvidia are evil and moronic. They may be able to do a little more than Linux can with open drivers but it feels like they're just getting lucky and things may or may not work as expected without any explanation. At least with Xorg you know exactly what's happening and why.
2 years ago
Anonymous
One of the main reasons I use Linux is because I was able to easily make some scripts using both xrandr and ddcutil to manage my complex multimonitor setup.
>Connect mouse and keyboard to hub in display >Screen turns off after being inactive >Mouse and keyboard is disconnected as well, so can't get out of idle mode >connect m&k to another hub
>Wake up PC from either sleep or just screen-off >DVI displays wake up instantly >PC starts displaying on them >DP on the other hand has to start up, so it takes too long and PC thinks it's dosconnected >All windows on the DP screen are shuffled over in a mess to the other screens >MP monitor finally decides to connect
>have any other port on card, VGA, DVI, HDMI >Any passive $1 adapter works fine >Run out of those ports >Need to buy $40 active DP->other adapter
>Need to buy $40 active DP->other adapter
I run one cheap DP - HDMI cable. Was maybe like €5.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah I have too, but those only work on dual-mode ports,which basically are DP + HDMI ports. Where as (digital)VGA; HDMI and DVI are all natively passively convertible.
Windows remembers different configurations depending on what's connected and enabled at a given time. If you leave the TV off next time and configure the 3 monitors the way you want then they will probably work the way you want next time. I'm guessing you set up the config with them all enabled so when the TV is off Windows just sort of defaults the other screens.
You have no fricking clue how many moronic office cucks this is saving hours of IT calls
Try clicking to open a file in explorer and having explorer not open on your main monitor, and instead open on your second connected monitor that is not on
Windows will not notify you of this in any way. The end user will see nothing. If the monitor automatically disconnects, this hypothetical never occurs.
I always thought it was a ~~*gimmick*~~, but it does make a difference, even when not gaming. Going back from 120hz at home to 60hz in the office almost feels like I have pointer trails enabled for the mouse cursor.
my dvi monitor already high refresh rate. 75hz. and yes difference was palpable. mouse movement just so much smoother, which is why i dont wanna switch monitor now
[...]
because unless you intend to use a single screen and a 900 series card forever you'll have to at least use a DP adapter to your DVI
>have just 1 monitor >turn PC on >half the time the monitor will turn on >have to turn it off and then back on >half the time it won't turn back on >reset switch and let it boot into windows
FRICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
my older monitor didn't do this and it was display port as well.
I have to reach behind my monitor to get to the buttons and one of them is the power button. I accidentally hit it quite a few times while adjusting settings. This wouldn't be jarring if the system didn't just decide to do this dumb bullshit.
>literally on samgsung right now >served for over 15 years >has blue energy sticker >has power switch >still works
what are you talking about Black person?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>monitor that was made 15 years ago and made to last..lasts.
whoaaaaaaaaa
i'm talking about 2022 samsung you stupid Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
then you should be more clear when specifying brands since im staring at samsung logo literally every other day and you should add citation that you mean samsung 2022. not samsung 2005, you moronic mongoloid
Wrong, Displayport is a completely different beast from DVI/HDMI.
The only common elements is that both HDMI and DP share a small flat physical connector and are both pure digital connection.
[...]
Displayport has been flawless for me since Day 1. I had far more stupid issues with VGA (mainly RFI shielding) and DVI than HDMI/Displayport. I suppose some of your problem may reside with convertors when you trying to use prehap DP-era monitors.
>Have valve index plugged into GPU >Uses displayport >Monitor uses displayport as well >BIOs uses HMD as the display and not my monitor
It's annoying for sure but unplugging the headset is effortless
>Windows
I sleep.
Good.. don't wake up from that sleep.
Cute penguinz tho
It's a "feature" that has been pissing people off for a decade.
The standard is SUPPOSED to treat sleep as a hotplug event. For some fricking reason.
>every new "feature" restrics user control
it's all so tiresome
It's optional, unless you have some cheap chink monitors I guess.
>using non-certified cables
Don't throw shade, I only use the best.
i'll certify my fist up your ass
proprietary technology is really dangerous...
works on my machine
You don't want your monitor to remain powered on do you when you leave it? Monitors keep backlight on during any connection. Docks are also a problem and keep providing power to the monitor, Windows S3 (sleep) event ejects the DisplayPort PNP device.
A non-perfect solution to a problem.
You shitc**t.
Both HDMI and Displayport have a sense pin specifically for cable disconnect so that the computer knows if you're just turning off the monitor, putting it to sleep or actively disconnecting it.
The problem is many Displayport connected monitors act like they have been disconnected when they haven't.
You can turn the feature off.
How? Is it a monitor option or a system option?
when the monitor goes to sleep or windows goes to sleep?
Then the monitor is asleep or turned off, it disconnects from the list of displays.
>running shit monitors
you should disconnect from 4chin
>ataasinngorneq, marsip 7.-at
is windows having a stroke?
What's greenland like?
not so interesting
Works for me on 10 and 11 with 3 different screens hdmi and usb3 c alt
moron, Displayport is working exactly how sleep mode is suppose have work on mointors in the first place. It was broken on HDMI/DVI. It either disconnects or DVI/HDMI port and mointor gets confused with handshaking.
Blame the Energy Star initiative for the whole and simply disable power saving for monitors if it is boring you so much.
made me wonder why there is not a clean standby entry command on this fancy interface. every time the os decides that its monitor standby time it makes the monitors show the no signal error instead of just putting them in the mode cleanly
It is because of Energy Star initiative. Eco-gays are trying to cutdown on "vampire" energy consumption.
Displayport monitor behave more like build-in laptop displays.
>turn computer on
>all 3 DP monitors on sleep
>HDMI tv is "off"
>Only my "main" display turns on, other 3 dead not extended
>All activate/extend if i turn on the TV
WHY, this never used to happen, do I need to reset something? I use my tv when I need it, no point in having it on all the time.
>two hdmi
>two dp
>start pc
>it goes through each monitor to find the main one
>finally boots after half a minute
>sometimes only one monitor is turned on and it's not the main one
>sometimes the entire boot procedure is fricked and just freezes because it can't pick a monitor to use
>have to power every monitor and pc off/on for it to work again
>after a few months I realize I have to switch my main monitor off/on after I boot the pc for the procedure to work like it should
Immeasurable rage for dp.
I have something similar on my system. Boot takes forever and one of my screens literally never wakes up from sleep and I have to disconnect and reconnect it which causes the OS to cycle through all the displays for a few minutes before it finally works.
Good thing I'm not alone.
I also had this very particular problem when I got my 4th monitor, 4k 144hz.
I couldn't render videos out of this software until I had removed and out my gpu back in.
Must be related to bandwidth.
Also glad I'm not alone with these issues, it means we're not insane.
Windows and Nvidia are evil and moronic. They may be able to do a little more than Linux can with open drivers but it feels like they're just getting lucky and things may or may not work as expected without any explanation. At least with Xorg you know exactly what's happening and why.
One of the main reasons I use Linux is because I was able to easily make some scripts using both xrandr and ddcutil to manage my complex multimonitor setup.
>have DP screen
>Connect mouse and keyboard to hub in display
>Screen turns off after being inactive
>Mouse and keyboard is disconnected as well, so can't get out of idle mode
>connect m&k to another hub
>Wake up PC from either sleep or just screen-off
>DVI displays wake up instantly
>PC starts displaying on them
>DP on the other hand has to start up, so it takes too long and PC thinks it's dosconnected
>All windows on the DP screen are shuffled over in a mess to the other screens
>MP monitor finally decides to connect
>have any other port on card, VGA, DVI, HDMI
>Any passive $1 adapter works fine
>Run out of those ports
>Need to buy $40 active DP->other adapter
>Need to buy $40 active DP->other adapter
I run one cheap DP - HDMI cable. Was maybe like €5.
Yeah I have too, but those only work on dual-mode ports,which basically are DP + HDMI ports. Where as (digital)VGA; HDMI and DVI are all natively passively convertible.
Windows remembers different configurations depending on what's connected and enabled at a given time. If you leave the TV off next time and configure the 3 monitors the way you want then they will probably work the way you want next time. I'm guessing you set up the config with them all enabled so when the TV is off Windows just sort of defaults the other screens.
No shit sherlock what did you expect and why do you care if it doesn't affect you in anything?
You have no fricking clue how many moronic office cucks this is saving hours of IT calls
Try clicking to open a file in explorer and having explorer not open on your main monitor, and instead open on your second connected monitor that is not on
Windows will not notify you of this in any way. The end user will see nothing. If the monitor automatically disconnects, this hypothetical never occurs.
you need to consume product. think of all those poor stockholders that will get less money if you keep using your current thing...
high-refresh rate monitors
once you use one you can't go back
Specifically why I'm sticking with 60hz until I'm forced to get something better. Feels smooth to me, and I save money too.
I always thought it was a ~~*gimmick*~~, but it does make a difference, even when not gaming. Going back from 120hz at home to 60hz in the office almost feels like I have pointer trails enabled for the mouse cursor.
So only if you're moronic. Got it.
my dvi monitor already high refresh rate. 75hz. and yes difference was palpable. mouse movement just so much smoother, which is why i dont wanna switch monitor now
my card is fine brotha. it outputs video image
Might want to invest in a keyboard. It's leaving words like, "is" and, "the" out of your sentence structure.
75hz isn't high refresh rate, it's literally office-supplied workplace monitor tier
Works on my machine.
That's a good thing. Funnily enough I had a DP monitor which didn't do this and a HDMI monitor which did. Pissed me off to no end.
because unless you intend to use a single screen and a 900 series card forever you'll have to at least use a DP adapter to your DVI
this is why you buy high-end monitors that have option to disable dp sleep unplug
>have just 1 monitor
>turn PC on
>half the time the monitor will turn on
>have to turn it off and then back on
>half the time it won't turn back on
>reset switch and let it boot into windows
FRICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
my older monitor didn't do this and it was display port as well.
Speaking of, is there any way to make GPU (5700XT) think I physically unplugged the monitor? I don’t want my second screen stealing FOS from my games.
I have to reach behind my monitor to get to the buttons and one of them is the power button. I accidentally hit it quite a few times while adjusting settings. This wouldn't be jarring if the system didn't just decide to do this dumb bullshit.
i never turn off mine so its not a problem and the settings are a one time set and forget thing
A better question is why are we all okay with planned obsolescence when it comes to monitors?
What monitors have planned obsolescence?
Anything made by Samsung or ASUS.
>literally on samgsung right now
>served for over 15 years
>has blue energy sticker
>has power switch
>still works
what are you talking about Black person?
>monitor that was made 15 years ago and made to last..lasts.
whoaaaaaaaaa
i'm talking about 2022 samsung you stupid Black person
then you should be more clear when specifying brands since im staring at samsung logo literally every other day and you should add citation that you mean samsung 2022. not samsung 2005, you moronic mongoloid
Dp is literally just dvi shoved into a smaller connector with more bandwidth higher res Hz and a couple of nest features like usb c
Wrong, Displayport is a completely different beast from DVI/HDMI.
The only common elements is that both HDMI and DP share a small flat physical connector and are both pure digital connection.
Displayport has been flawless for me since Day 1. I had far more stupid issues with VGA (mainly RFI shielding) and DVI than HDMI/Displayport. I suppose some of your problem may reside with convertors when you trying to use prehap DP-era monitors.
idk sounds like a specific to your system problem
ever had a live DP connector touch your arm hair?
>Have valve index plugged into GPU
>Uses displayport
>Monitor uses displayport as well
>BIOs uses HMD as the display and not my monitor
It's annoying for sure but unplugging the headset is effortless