Do aborted babies go to heaven?

Do aborted babies go to heaven?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, no soul yet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, they do.

      They’re not babies

      then abortion isn’t wrong

      Were they baptized?

      so… babies go to hell if their parents didn’t baptize them? What a loving God..

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thats what catholic cucks believe not real christians

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Murder is still wrong. Just because you killed someone totally innocent doesn’t make your murder fine because you sent them to heaven early.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Murder is wrong because… IT JUST IS OKAY???
          sounds like you’re just trying to extend basic biological moral intuitions to apply to magical afterlife paradises but it just doesn’t work. If killing someone sends them to heaven then that is literally the most moral thing you could do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >sounds like you’re just trying to extend basic biological moral intuitions to apply to magical afterlife paradises but it just doesn’t work.
            it does work. the bible says murder is wrong, ergo whatever reason you have for murdering it is still wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Bible also says that love covers all sins.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            love for GOD covers all sins, but you cannot love God and still intentionally break his rules

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins
            To love God is simply to love people. It’s very simple. There is no other way to love God.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >To love God is simply to love people
            nta but if you love people you don't kill them
            >but I send him in paradise
            You don't know and he can go in paradise AND live a full life her on earth. If you love someone you preserve his life her as well as let him progress toward God in this life, and leave when God commands, not by your own choice.
            It really is telling that you ended up simply justifying murder.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I agree with you that Christianity is moronic, but you have to remember something: Christians view right and wrong as "in accordance with what God tells you to do" and "against what God tells you to do", rather than taking a standard utilitarian perspective. Christian utilitarians believe that following God's will shall bring about the maximum utility, and that that's why obeying God is good, while non-utilitarian christians believe obeying God is good because God is inherently good, rather than based off of some independent utility.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No they go to limbo you fricking moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          is that supposed to make it better

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So was Augustine still influenced by his gnostic past when he argued that unbaptized infants go to hell?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Bible says you get your soul at first breath (and is quite explicit that they mean post-birth, not that "oh, the baby gets its breath from its mother while still in the womb" nonsense).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Adam wasn't a fetus though. For that to work Adam would need to be a fetus.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The question that single-handedly makes christcucks piss and shit their pants

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If they go to heaven
      They could also have lived a life her and prepared better now for it. It would have beeen better for them not to die. Ultimately your actions can have a bad impact on someone else life, even if God will correct it, and even if it will overall be corrected by God

      >If they don't go to heaven
      You in fact deflect the discussion on the discution of the different theories of afterlife in christianity and other religions, who also condemn abortion. So it will become difficult. You just want to condemn and blame God, or the christian God, but there are a lot of different theories on this. Blaming a certain augustin conception of hell doesn't change the fact your act is a clear destruction of some soul's path, a net loss for them.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, they do.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Were they baptized?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They’re not babies

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes, and the parents to hell

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like the ultimate loving sacrifice. You go to hell in exchange for guaranteeing that your child goes to heaven - that's way cooler than Jeezus dying on a cross and then taking a three day vacation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What do you think the word "heaven" means?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Different christians will answer that differently, but the bottom line is that heaven is le good and hell is le bad.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I laughed so hard don't know why

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like the ultimate loving sacrifice. You go to hell in exchange for guaranteeing that your child goes to heaven - that's way cooler than Jeezus dying on a cross and then taking a three day vacation.

      One woman can have dozens of abortions and send them all to heaven. Sounds like love to me. Not sure why such selflessness would be punished.

      christcucks have had centuries to deal with this problem and they have no idea what to say.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its not out of good intentions, in christianity everything is heart and intention chud.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You just want to self justify to yourself that there is no answer even back at the start.
        “The second commandment of the teaching: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child” (Didache 2:1–2).
        “Thou shalt not slay the child by procuring abortion; nor, again, shalt thou destroy it after it is born” (Letter of Barnabas 19).
        As the other anon said, it is about intention.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, no one goes to heaven because souls are a lie promoted by idolatrous sinners.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a monotheist, soul belief is polytheism, ergo I don't believe in souls.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I hate to break it to you but your beliefs are false, souls exist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are wrong, you just have delusions of being a divine being because you fear death. Very sad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >appear in this world/reality/whatever
            >somehow will not happen again
            I don't know how people can think that.
            Before you were, there was the possibility of you existing in the very beginning of the universe, somehow you were there as potential, and just because you died it will just go away somehow? That sounds stupid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's the other way around, I had delusions of eternal darkness because i didn't believe light could exist. Do you believe in God what's your idea of God? If you're a monotheist.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As we all know babies have souls at the moment of conception, and without being born, they cannot be exposed to sin, therefore they are guaranteed to go to heaven, and thus the Christian world should devote itself to commiting as many abortions as possible to guarantee as many souls as possible are saved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >and thus the Christian world should devote itself to commiting as many abortions as possible to guarantee as many souls as possible are saved.
      They'd go to hell if not baptized because le original sin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well, this is mostly for protestants who don't believe in baptism but do believe in heaven. I'm sure we can work out a way to get some holy water in there though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, this is mostly for protestants who don't believe in baptism but do believe in heaven. I'm sure we can work out a way to get some holy water in there though.

      >and without being born, they cannot be exposed to sin
      As per the Church Fathers, they still have Original Sin, and they still have any and all sins committed in the womb. Perhaps Pastor Bob told you otherwise, but in actual Christian churches this is understood.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is it Catholics that do baptism? They don't believe in eternal salvation/damnation anyway.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >They don't believe in eternal salvation/damnation anyway.
          Wut?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah we have had a couple popes say he'll doesn't exist or that it's a metaphor not a real place. I could have sworn one of them said the same about heaven but I can't find it right now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Quote?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, this is what John Paul II had to say about hell,"Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but the condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life"
            and "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's not saying hell doesn't exist or that it isn't eternal, but rather that it isn't magic lava.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well, I mean these guys are full time theologians, their views are philosophical and academic, hard to summarize exactly. But the guy said hell isn't a place its a state of mind, its not somewhere you go after you die etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            kek why's cuckstianity so goddamn convoluted?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, this is what John Paul II had to say about hell,"Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but the condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life"
          and "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."

          kek why's cuckstianity so goddamn convoluted?

          Yeah, this is what John Paul II had to say about hell,"Hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but the condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life"
          and "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."

          The Pope and the Catholic Church don't get to decide what Catholic Doctrine is, israelite.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Actually, they do. The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith literally sets Catholic Doctrine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty sure thats exactly who gets to decide what catholic doctrine is lol.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >
            delusional cuckstian

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No because God doesn't exist

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what i dont understand is: god predetermined everything, does that mean that he knew that babie he took time to create was gonna get aborted? if so, why bother? this religion really makes no sense if you question it for more than 5 seconds

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aborted babies are closer to dead parasites than to dead humans.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All babies are in hell. From conception.
    Earth is hell. Abortion their only hope.
    Save the babies! Go back to heaven.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you get an abortion because you were raped, you are worse than the rapist because you murdered an innocent baby, you probably deserved to be raped because you were being a shameless bawd

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do christians hate women? Could it be that they're drawn to a religion that values celibacy because they can't get laid?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know maybe its good Christians don't really think about their religion, otherwise you might see them in hospitals trying to 'save' children by killing them.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They go to a simulated reality based off of whatever information they may have gathered during their brief period of consciousness.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, they're affected by original sin. The only salvation is by accepting Jesus as lord and savior.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes
      No*

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We just don't know

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Abortion is fine. Its permitted plenty in the Torah.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends. God already knows whether or not they would have grown up to be good or wicked. He can sentence them accordingly without the need to see them to adulthood. The real question is whether or not they will be aged up to the prime of their righteousness/wickedness so that they can comprehend their reward/punishment.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Growing up is realizing that you are not against abortion as a christian but as a humanist acknowledging inherent value in all human lives and recognizing abortion for what it is; the unjustifiable destruction of powerless humans for selfish interests.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A-are you aborting your baby so you can wait til you graduate before starting a family and be able to take better care of them?
      >THAT'S IT! I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH YOUR UNJUSTIFIABLE SELFISH DESTRUCTION! MAGIC LAVA IT IS!!!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why the frick would aborting babies get you sent to hell? You know I make women miscarry for no reason at all sometimes right? That's the same thing.
        > Wait, I 'm sure I included instructions on how to use abortions as a test of infidelity in the old testament. Why the frick would abortion be the worst thing in the world when I told you how to do it?
        > Do you frickers just not pay attention to anything I say?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Miscarried babies are predestined to limbo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't take care of you according to my arbitrary standard so you will have to die, sorry.
        Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge fetuses as living human beings?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Making money vs not making money? Umm sweaty that's completely arbitrary. How do you define "making," "money" and "not" anyway, hmmmmmmmmmm???

          >wait til you graduate before starting a family and be able to take better care of them
          shouldve waited for sex until marriage then 🙂

          Or you can simply not believe in moronic iron-age fables and be a functioning adult.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >wait til you graduate before starting a family and be able to take better care of them
        shouldve waited for sex until marriage then 🙂

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They do not. Anyone who says yes is a pelagian.

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