Do any of you actually sincerely write?
I'm currently writing a story.
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Do any of you actually sincerely write? I'm currently writing a story.
Do any of you actually sincerely write?
I'm currently writing a story.
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I'd assume a large portion of people here write.
The real question is does anyone here write well?
>I'd assume a large portion of people here write.
mostly manifestos about how they're straight and how it's the israelites who dun it all to them.
>The real question is does anyone here write well?
I write exceedingly well, and all the time; funny stupid stories, songs and incredibly benign academic papers. The people on here who don't like the things I write spell "writing" as "righting", true story. happened this morning.
> I write exceedingly well
How does one improve his/her writing beyond just reading high lit?
You improve your writing by just writing. Just do it.
I have written three full sci-fi novels now.
I started the first one in late 2021 and have written over half a million words since then, which is really good for me. I am happy with it.
>How does one improve his/her writing beyond just reading high lit?
>You improve your writing by just writing. Just do it.
kind of. I'd say yes, just do it, but reading story books that are well-written helps to gather a kind of grasp of command and structure to your sentences. Harlan Ellisons style is a big teacher of mine, especially his shorter stories.
Yup in the past when I was fricking writing garbage ha
Ultimately this, for advise: the best writes, you will find, are not jobbing writers but men who wrote for their own amusement. THIS is superior because THIS is not being sifted through bullshit like "oh what will this demographic thing, oh how do fricking appeal to XYZ," rather: it' straight from the head, and if your head has good things in it then what you think is worth hearing.
best advise i would give to myself.
I do.
Learn to analyze your writing and the writing of others, digging into descriptive grammar will be very helpful here. You will not improve much if you view it as a purely intuitive thing, few succeed that way.
Have you been published ?
Has any one bought your writing ?
I am self-published and a few people have purchased my books from IQfy.
They never said if they read them or liked them. I have reread the books for editing several times, and I still really enjoy them.
Here is a link if you are interested.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHG869SG
Just sci-fi fun, not dystopian, but a lot of world-building and action. More action in the second and third books, I would say.
I am currently outlining and preparing to write the fourth novel in the series.
stop shilling you fricking book here carter you loser, go frick your pig wife or something
lol. Thank you sir. You would probably like my book. I think the first one is free on kindle.
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHG869SG
Dude you didn't even pay for art or a copywriter for the back blurb.
I'm on the second draft of my first novel. It's pretty amateurish but has some strong moments. One of my friends read the entire first draft just for fun so that gives me hope.
This is horrible, autistic, ego-maniacal advice.
Those things cost too much money. I am a poor farmer. I wrote because i wanted to write. I did not even know if I could complete a story. I used Amazon so that i could have an actual copy of my work.
You can get AI to do your art for free.
I did not write to make money, and in order to get author copies, you have to complete the amazon kdp stuff. I just did the back blurp in a minute, and amazon gives very little in the way of options for the form and layout. It is what it is, anon.
Please fix my blurp if you want.
Also, give a link to your work. To any of it. You can see all three of my novels. I see a lot of antagonism on IQfy, but I'll keep coming for the ones with soul. The ones that care to help. We are all amateurs here. Why act otherwise?
Not that guy but I just put the first poem I published on the discord
Based. As i start writing my next novel, I'll give updates on there.
^I'm this anon to clarify
Yes the difference between most of IQfy and /misc/ is decidedly small. Luckily the social impact of people who have that mindset is also decidedly small.
Ray Bradbury said the best thing a young writer can do is write and write often. And read. Great books, terrible books, anything you can get your hands on. The point is to practice the skill like you would any other, and at the start that means just getting into the rhythm of doing it.
The barrier for self publication is non-existent to the point where it's simply not publishing. If you hired an editor and you also put money/time into marketing then yes, you published a book. Spending a few bucks to get a bunch of low quality prints of your work can be done by anyone with a word processor and too much time on their hands.
Now, as for me, I've had poems published in a number of magazines and won a nice sum in a contest a few years ago, but I would never bold faced say I can write "exceedingly well". No 'real writer' does. We're all a bundle of anxiety and self doubt that makes us edit and rewrite our work repeatedly, which is what makes the work good.
Same guy again
That's my number 1 tip new writers need to learn - EDIT. Your first draft will always suck. I don't care if you're Proust reborn, your first draft is going to suck. If you think your first draft is "cringe" or not worth sharing at all then it doesn't mean the idea is bad or you're a bad writer, it just means you've written a first draft. Write a second draft that's better. Edit it. Then write a third. And so on until you have something that's as close to perfect as you can get.
I can't tell you how many new writers come to me with a notebook full of first drafts where the only advice I can give them is they need to write a second before showing anyone who isn't a close confidant.
That is definitely the last thing that a new writer should be doing. Editing is mostly pointless. You should already know what you want to write, and you should be able to write it down without much trouble.
If you cannot write it down teh first time, then stop writing.
If you have to delete your draft and write another, then stop writing. You are doing it wrong.
If you are a bundle of anxiety and self doubt then you have other issues that need fixing first. Go touch grass.
Writing poetry is completely pointless and feminine. No real author should be writing poetry.
Okay so Paradise Lost is totally gay
This is why I'm a punished author and you're not
I am also a published author.
ANd yes, Paradise Lost is totally gay. Correct.
Are you the self publish guy? Because nah, you aren't.
Poems are nothing. Second, getting your homoerotica published in some magazines does not make you a published author anymore so than a self-published author. To split that hair is a very strange thing to do. Likely, you are trying to build yourself up and tear others down even though you cannot write an actual novel. You can only write poetry and get it published, which is more of an embarrassing thing to say than a positive.
What novels have you written? What are you writing right now? And why?
I've finished two novels in my life, one a fairytale/philosophy which I've been rewriting for over ten years, and another that I'd put in the "Stephen King non-fiction" section which I finished a first draft and left to wither on the vine because I knew I wasn't a good enough writer at the time for both my ideas and prose to come out how I wanted to on the page. I guess technically you can say I'm working on a third, as I've been working on a book of prose poems for over ten years as well.
I also want to say you're right, magazine publishing and self publishing is a thin hair to split and I apologize. I was being an ass and trying to prop myself up for no reason.
Absolutely based, anon.
Poetry is very much acceptable to write, and I would say that most people are not seeing the difference between what we know of as poetry in teh modern world (so high school crap) versus the Epics of old. Of course, those (like Paradise Lost) are not gay.
Writing a book of prose poems like you are doing is a daunting task, at least in my opinion. I could mimic it poorly at first, and then it would likely develop from there. That is, of course, no guarantee that I would ever be good at it at all. Even my writing I don't claim to be good. It is what I wanted and expected, though, and that is good enough for now.
I would encourage you to finish the novels you have written. Maybe you need to rewrite in order to accept your work. That is fine, but I hope you will continue to work at it.
I think that it is as I stated before. In order to get better at writing, an author needs to write. Surely, one can do many other things to improve the craft, but writing is the bulk. I also remember the words of Thomas Woods, who once said that a person will never regret having taken the time to write something seriously. You will likely never look back to say, "I wish I would have spent my time playing video games rather than understanding how to write."
And another quote comes to me from some other author. SHe said something like: "I don't so much like writing as I like haven written." I think the takeaway there is that you should be proud of getting the material out of your mind, out of the abstract, and down onto something real and tangible. CHeers, anon.
Thank you very much
I've been throwing around the idea of restarting the second novel, this time really working on an outline (I don't like to have one with a first draft) to keep track of all the characters and their movements as the story goes on. It's made me reevaluate character traits and motivations, completely changed plot points that had long been established (a character introduced in the first few chapters is now introduced towards the middle/end for instance) causing a ripple effect.
It's just a different way then I'm accustomed to working, especially because most of my writing recently has been prose poetry. Went through my backlog of poems last week and found 100+ pages with a phrase, a paragraph, a /something/, that could be expounded on. It's a very different mindset between the two, squirrelling out emotion on one hand and building to spec on the other.
I agree with the other anon out there who was saying there should be a discord, I want to show some of my work now.
I agree with a discord. I would hop on there to share some of my future stuff.
Alright I just made a discord. Drop your discord and I'll send you an invite.
I don't know how to get the general server number so people can just join publicly. But anyone who wants to join should show up
Teamname#0387
Oh wait. I found the server tag I'm pretty sure
https://discord.gg/MXGJQdtK
anyone feel free to join
I know you're unnerved that the gross material on the page might communicate something that did not already exist whole, pure and pristine in your mind, but that external autonomy of language is basically where the force of literature lies, and you can't make it through the labyrinth and reach an interesting artwork without getting lost on the way. You start writing properly when you feel the solid wholesome grass drop away from your touch and suddenly find yourself playing a game you don't know the rules to. The anxiety is an objective feature of the form, not a subjective flaw in the writer.
Too flowery for my taste. But nice, anon.
da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM da DUM
I drink my NOS, citrus maiden nectar.
But it tears ass, toilet now laid broken.
They come to buy, enjoy a day for fun.
But such fat abounds, no truer words are spoken.
Purple facial, too gross to pound bosom.
Cleavage of one, engorge feelings awoken.
Writing is a process, not an act. Rewriting, revision, and editing are the most worthwhile skills I have developed as a writer, drafting an idea without care of form is the only way to get the idea down in the moment, develop it to its full potential later. I started getting published shortly after I learned this and I do not think this is a coincidence.
I was just giving a ration of shit before. I agree that writing is a process. That is exactly what I mean when I say that a person will not regret having written (echoing Tom Woods' statement). Those are skills that are good to learn and develop.
>I was just giving a ration of shit before
At best you demonstrated the flaw of what you were saying and you should have probably gone out and touched grass before posting. Anxiety and self doubt are very useful tools in writing, if you are feeling that way then you work on a character or scene which can benefit from that first hand and immediate knowledge or you overcome it by meeting the challenge, you don't just passively wait for le muse.
You lack any reading comprehension. I see that a dialogue is pointless.
You did not engage in any sort of dialog, just defensiveness.
>that is really what I was saying all along
But you've never been published.
>samegay
I have a fair amount of publishing experience and have shared it and offered advice in many threads over the past few years.
I too lie on the internet.
Even if I am lying I still manage to support what I say and the community without resorting to seethe and samegayging. But you do not seem to understand how being anonymous works, ego is removed and the knowledge shared is allowed to stand on its own, the anon can not be known.
based anon. writing is 90% rewriting.
no one's going to believe me, but I just sold a novel to a major publishing house. it'll be out soon. I don't want to say too much because it's bad as a writer to be associated with fricking IQfy
Define 'well'. What metric are you using?
i have a notepad i write poetry in occasionally.
Im working up the courage to write a book lately but im also extremely lazy
Write the book anon
Instead of spamming IQfy further, you could have asked in /wg/
I have a list of short story ideas I've come up with. But I lack the ability to concentrate long enough to actually work on them.
No, but I pretend to in /wg/ because I'm delusional
I tried, but all that comes out is cringe.
Why you have saved pics of minors?
Yeah, I write poems prolifically and occasionally short stories or essays
Yeah
I wrote a novel and began a second.
Unfortunately I can't find anyone to read them so it doesn't always feel like I'm a writer as much as it does I'm an easy mark for the gubmint to LSD me into manifesto land.
What's your story about?
You want to send me over a chapter or two? I'd love to read it. I can send you over a chapter of my stuff and we can get an exchange. I always think there should be a /lit discord for sustained exchange of writing
Well sure anon but im not sure how to contact someone on the 'chan
I'm a pretty good editor
i've started effortlessly getting ideas for a coherent novel all year. I've been collecting notes and doing other assorted preliminary work during this time. I went through them they other month and it took me about five hours just to read through them and sort them into good and bad. I've done more work since then.
Does this sound like enough content? I've written the first chapter and my instinct is that I've done enough to prepare. Should I bang out the rest of the novel at this point?
I know there's no definitive way to answer this but I'm just curious.
Yes, just write the novel now. No more procrastinating. I am in the same position, in that I am gathering information for a novel about pirates in teh carribbean. I find that I could easily spend all the time reading up and generating ideas instead of actually writing. Eventually, I will just force myself to get serious and start putting the words down.
Meanwhile, I am trying to do marketing for my books. Really, I didn't write my books to make any money, but I guess it would be nice, right?
hey thanks. yeah, i'm glad i waited until now because I got some really juicy stuff thought out, but from now on I feel like I'd be procrastinating. I'd like to have it completed by the end of the year
>I'd like to have it completed by the end of the year
by the end of the day would be better
won't matter anyway. I'm not a writer by profession so getting published may as well be fantasy. It's just for me.
>I'm not a writer by profession so
guesssssss youre not a reader either, see: the cool thing i told you here
>the best writes, you will find, are not jobbing writers but men who wrote for their own amusement. THIS is superior because THIS is not being sifted through bullshit like "oh what will this demographic thing, oh how do fricking appeal to XYZ," rather: it' straight from the head, and if your head has good things in it then what you think is worth hearing.
>guesssssss youre not a reader either, see: the cool thing i told you here
sorry, that wasn't me
I write thoughts and imagine stories to write some day
Only nonfiction theory stuff. I haven’t been able to write a compelling story since grade school
I only say that I do. I don't ACTUALLY write. It's just something I tell my social workers, doctors and psychologists to make me seem more ambitious when I'm out pleading for more neetbux.
I have tried to write novels, poetry and occasionally oneshots or just anything that I would feel at the current moment. Often times I do find myself writing mediocre pieces, or maybe it is just me — I can't shake the feel of my writing being egregious if not completely terrible on its own