first, frick you if you post start with the greeks frick you i have a gun and i will find your home address frick you.
thanks in advance to anyone who does not post this
second, i want to read ulysess but apparently you have to go through the material for iliad and odyssey first.
i will derive no enjoyment in reading any of these books.
i am only interested in reading ulysess specifically for the culture and mental exercise.
should i go buy iliad and odyssey or can i just blow through them via audiobook.
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yes and read hamlet too and the bible
Merrill’s translation of Homer is better than Joyce
Start with the greeks
OP said he has a gun and that he will find your home address
you might want to delete your post
I'm behind 7 proxies, good luck.
No read Hamlet, The Dead, and Thomas Aquinas Selected Works.
Do I even need to say it
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no, you don't even need to read portrait of the artist, dive in m8
Anon, you don't need to read homer to read Ulysses, just like you don't need to read the Bible to read Lord of the Rings. But you will still be missing things.
No.
You don't have to read something to read another thing. Just read what interests you and if it doesn't than put it down.
i dont read for interest i read for culture
Start with the greeks.
>All these fricking morons suggesting shit
The only thing you actually need to read is Portrait of the Artist and even then the books stands well by itself. The plot is not vitally constructed around the Odyssey or Aquinas or the fricking Bible and there's one chapter dedicated to a Hamlet theory which requires you to know about Shakespeare's life more than Hamlet. Anybody saying the following is crucial to understanding Ulysses are morons who never read it
>Iliad
>Odyssey
>Dubliners
>Aquinas
>Aristotle
>Divine Comedy
>Bible
No one is saying it’s crucial, I
recommend these to get a bigger picture of the book. Ulysses alone is great, but with these in you the plot thickens, you get more out of the book.
Of course if you read everything that’s referenced in Ulysses you might get more.
The Dead provides one whole reference in the book, a throwaway thought from Bloom. How does it give a bigger picture? Aquinas too, he's more suited for Portrait but for Ulysses he's basically invisible, you might as well say read Zarathustra because he's mentioned in Telemachus.
>The Dead provides one whole reference in the book, a throwaway thought from Bloom. How does it give a bigger picture?
The dead is like a preface to Ulysses, a similar structure to it. For someone reading Ulysses for the first time, this short story is a great intro.
As for Aquinas, it helps you understand Stephen and Ulysses main theme which is the same as most of Aquinas. That of becoming and being.
Like I said, the book by itself is great, and you get a lot. But through the lenses of these work you are able to grasp more, and make your own connections, and come to your own conclusions, other than “well that was a long book” “that was great/beautiful/amazing”
>The dead is like a preface to Ulysses, a similar structure to it
In what way?
>That of becoming and being.
That's a very debatable opinion but fair enough, I still say it's much more relevant to Portrait.
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No, we don’t read.