Does Jesus and the ghost still exist as separate entities or is it just God now?
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Does Jesus and the ghost still exist as separate entities or is it just God now?
Does Jesus and the ghost still exist as separate entities or is it just God now?
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They have always and forever exist as three separate persons, as the three “who” of God, and as one being, God.
It’s a threefold unity.
And it’s completely biblical (OT) it’s not something Christians made later.
None of this is in the bible heretic
Oh yes it’s very much in the bible.
To the point of obvious.
Let’s disregard the fact that Jesus does things only God does and accepts worship as an appropriate response.
Trinity is implicit in the OT, with lots of verses proving it.
Jesus is proved to be God in OT
>Trinity is implicit in the OT
Liar, stop spreading false teachings; if the bible wanted to point to the trinity it would be explicit .
>Jesus does things only God does
Jesus did miracles through God; you know nothing
Implicit bordering on explicit.
Of course you haven’t read it, I‘m talking to a wall.
I have collected some verses that point to the fact that Jesus is God, Should I copy paste it here?
>Implicit bordering on explicit.
Nice newspeak; heretic
Nowhere in the bible it says anything about a three headed "god", go be pagan somewhere else
Here are the verses:
https://sys.IQfy/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsalmon-daloris-65.tiiny.site
It’s a pdf.
>here are the verses that do not name any trinity
Cool
Are you trolling me?
>nooo you can't see through my deception
It literally says the angel is the Christ, and the angel is already established as God.
All the while he distinguishes himself from the Father.
There is even a verse from God saying: they will look at me, the one they have pierced.
God identifies as Jesus.
Are you moronic?
Jesus is God
>the bible has angels so this angel is also Jesus but God is also an angel
Just...stop you are rambling
No I said the angel is God (already established) but not the father because he says to Hagar “the father has heard you” but Hahar responds to the angel: “you are the God that sees me” this is one of the point of trinity. Jesus is God but not the father.
So Jesus is the angel and also God.
Father sends this angel down to people and the people recognise this angel as God. And this angel is prophesied to be redeem all people (what he did eventually):
> 9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old.
I know that’s a lot to digest, but you have to eventually admit the truth my friend. Im not forcing you to my belief I’m just sharing it with you, you can do your own research, but also listen to what I said.
You are seeing what you want to see in a plain text that doesn't mention this supposedly fundamental aspect of God; also the trinity is not necessary for God to be Jesus; God could manifenst as a billion different things; doesn't mean they are all different entities
That is true God could manifest in anything, but never the father, for some reason the Father works by proxy.
Also as I said the angel who is the “God that sees me” distinguished himself from the father, he says to Hagar: “father has heard you”. Maybe “who sees me” means the God that comes down to earth and sees and visits people.
The man who wrestles and with Jacob says loses says: you have wrestled with God and you have overcame him.
Jacob then says: I have seen God face to face.
The same man (i say the same man because he says im the God of bethel, with whom Jacob makes a vow) comes to Hagar, and hagar says: I now have seen, you are the God that sees me.
How do you deny all of this, are you a muslim?
>again no trinity mentioned or alluded to
Getting desperate
Yes the concept trinity is not expresses in the Bible but putting the text together there is no other way to come to the formulation of trinity
I have already established that Jesus is God.
There is a lot more yet, I can also establish using only OT verses that the Spirit is God.
Care to hear them?
According to our ancient scrolls, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are distinct beings. God is the ultimate entity that encompasses both.
Distinct persons yes since the being of them both is 100 percent God, but yet they have different functions and they interact with each other, as well as the father.
Maybe we can say (im probably going to say heresy) the persons are the three simultaneously existing egos of God.
We don’t know, do you expect an ant to understand and comprehend our nature?
What is really important is that in the Bible the redeeming angel is God and is also said to be the Messiah.
That’s all.