Neither does atheism. New atheist might make the cut, but even that is a huge stretch which would make your definition of religion cover a massive amount of human activities.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Of course it does. It is a worldview which makes ultimate truth claims. When atheists make their autistic spiel about "there are 30 bajilion religions but only yours is true", we have to include atheism as one of the 30 bajilion. When I point this out to them they respond by moving the goalposts, shifting from propositions which have a truth value like "Jesus Christ is God in the flesh" to human behaviors, which don't have a truth value, by saying things like "what rituals do atheists have?" Although there are also some apparently ritualistic behaviors that seem quite common among atheists
2 months ago
Anonymous
Atheism is the belief that no gods exist. If that qualifies as a religion, I don't see why the belief that, for instance, no two meters long potatoes exist wouldn't qualify as a religion too.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>the belief that no gods exist
No such thing. Atheism is a worldview which is identical to Epicureanism.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>No such thing.
It's literally how philosophers define atheism, anon.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Who cares about their opinion?
2 months ago
Anonymous
People who read philosophy, so not you.
By definition, yes. But the richard dawkins / daniel dennett following has grown into a set of truth values such as:
>god does not exist due to "god of the gaps theory" >determinism is true; we just havent fleshed out all the data because there is too much to do so >humans, having evolved from animals, are animals have therefore have no inherent value >science is the only way to explain things, and therefore experts in science should be our guides to life
These "a-theistic" tenants build up to a religion without a god. Instead they believe that science will solve everything, up to and including human behavior.
I already said here
Neither does atheism. New atheist might make the cut, but even that is a huge stretch which would make your definition of religion cover a massive amount of human activities.
that new atheism might make the cut, but new atheism is an anglo phenomenon that is overrepresented online for obvious reasons.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>People who read philosophy, so not you.
Assclowns and trannies. Aka philosophers, so I guess that's nobody.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>low IQ rage
ok
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you feel rage?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>boomer pastor doesn't understand meme arrows
ok
2 months ago
Anonymous
same reason achilleus did
2 months ago
Anonymous
By definition, yes. But the richard dawkins / daniel dennett following has grown into a set of truth values such as:
>god does not exist due to "god of the gaps theory" >determinism is true; we just havent fleshed out all the data because there is too much to do so >humans, having evolved from animals, are animals have therefore have no inherent value >science is the only way to explain things, and therefore experts in science should be our guides to life
These "a-theistic" tenants build up to a religion without a god. Instead they believe that science will solve everything, up to and including human behavior.
It's not arbitrary, philosophy as a whole doesn't fit any reasonable definition of religion.
This is correct.
[...]
Wrong.
No.
morons, what do you say about places outside of the Hellenic world? That simply had zero conception of philosophy? Dharma literally means truth about reality. Philosophy is just a hellenic system of describing reality no different from any other religion
Hey pajeet, why don't you go tell all biologists, mathematicians and physicsist that they *actually* studied theology and record the amout of laughter?
I think philosophy and religion are both tools, but they are different tools. Philosophy is used to try to figure out God, nature, and everything else. Religion is used to conform everyone to be the same.
It's the other way around. Religion is the most common subset of philosophy among people.
Religion = A non-materialist philosophy with axioms based on faith and subsequent praxis.
>It's the other way around. Religion is the most common subset of philosophy among people.
this sounds arbitrary and like a bias of yours
It's not arbitrary, philosophy as a whole doesn't fit any reasonable definition of religion.
I agree. Atheism does, this
is correct
Neither does atheism. New atheist might make the cut, but even that is a huge stretch which would make your definition of religion cover a massive amount of human activities.
Of course it does. It is a worldview which makes ultimate truth claims. When atheists make their autistic spiel about "there are 30 bajilion religions but only yours is true", we have to include atheism as one of the 30 bajilion. When I point this out to them they respond by moving the goalposts, shifting from propositions which have a truth value like "Jesus Christ is God in the flesh" to human behaviors, which don't have a truth value, by saying things like "what rituals do atheists have?" Although there are also some apparently ritualistic behaviors that seem quite common among atheists
Atheism is the belief that no gods exist. If that qualifies as a religion, I don't see why the belief that, for instance, no two meters long potatoes exist wouldn't qualify as a religion too.
>the belief that no gods exist
No such thing. Atheism is a worldview which is identical to Epicureanism.
>No such thing.
It's literally how philosophers define atheism, anon.
Who cares about their opinion?
People who read philosophy, so not you.
I already said here
that new atheism might make the cut, but new atheism is an anglo phenomenon that is overrepresented online for obvious reasons.
>People who read philosophy, so not you.
Assclowns and trannies. Aka philosophers, so I guess that's nobody.
>low IQ rage
ok
Why do you feel rage?
>boomer pastor doesn't understand meme arrows
ok
same reason achilleus did
By definition, yes. But the richard dawkins / daniel dennett following has grown into a set of truth values such as:
>god does not exist due to "god of the gaps theory"
>determinism is true; we just havent fleshed out all the data because there is too much to do so
>humans, having evolved from animals, are animals have therefore have no inherent value
>science is the only way to explain things, and therefore experts in science should be our guides to life
These "a-theistic" tenants build up to a religion without a god. Instead they believe that science will solve everything, up to and including human behavior.
This is correct.
Wrong.
>upvote downvote
yeah this
folk religion isn't philosophically vacant
it's just philosophically underdeveloped
fippy bippy
morons, what do you say about places outside of the Hellenic world? That simply had zero conception of philosophy? Dharma literally means truth about reality. Philosophy is just a hellenic system of describing reality no different from any other religion
Hey pajeet, why don't you go tell all biologists, mathematicians and physicsist that they *actually* studied theology and record the amout of laughter?
Well considering that philosophers as a collective are neither organized nor a religion I'm gonna have to say probably not
I think philosophy and religion are both tools, but they are different tools. Philosophy is used to try to figure out God, nature, and everything else. Religion is used to conform everyone to be the same.
Philosophy is secular theology.
No.