>Don't go to university. Trust me. I graduated from a no-name college with a communications degree, so I'm totally educated on this topic. Just clean toilets for a living, brah.
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You have to admit that they invested heavily in the "education bad" psyop.
please frick does anyone have the version of this where it's speaking about minotaurs
was so well written
that's the one above
sorry I'm moronic
well we are clearly 10
but i dont have any reason to flip the table over, the system in place is quite good to us
and if you followed the threads before /nubiz/ most of us just want to escape the ratrace and frick off somewhere quiet in style
meanwhile the ideologues of the controlled opposition are wrecking havoc everywhere because they turned a critical mass of normies into true believer zealots
According to anons on IQfy they've gone to universities and are still poor, just as poor as the ones who didn't, seems like IQfy is a failure magnet.
You still have a better chance of making a lot of money with a degree. The statistics don't lie. I think it's moronic to fud people out of college and doom them to a lifetime of back-backing and underpaid labor.
*back-breaking
It's not moronic, it's malice.
That's only been a thing since the 7% annual inflation since the 80s, when MBAs started running colleges.
Statistics do lie in this case because you compare two different types of people. It's a very common problem if you are looking for casual effects in observational data. You know the old "correlation is not causation". Ideally you would do a RCT but that's probably unfeasible. There are ways to estimate the effect locally, e.g. comparing people that just failed college with people that just graduated.
To make it short, the effect on lifetime income is pretty small to nonexistent in some cases.
If you're smart you start a business and sell the toilet cleaning services. If you are even smarter you notice that there are niches that have higher demand but less supply and you specialize. For example, cleaning industrial pipes
yeah but some people just doing want to clean toilets for a living. And the only way to get into real cutting edge fields is with a degree.
Wait, you need a degree to clean toilets now??
I personally know people who are stuck in the ghetto and working for low wages due to having no degree. They're content with their dead-end job and having Shaquisha and her 10 kids as neighbors. They will basically live and die as poorgays. All because they didn't do the sensible thing and go to college.
Meanwhile, people with degrees are making bank with their WFH jobs and are wealthier now more than ever. Not having at least a bachelors degree in current year is a risky move, imo.
Your friends are probably where they belong.
Could they graduate from a decent college with at least a 3.5 in a non meme degree like accounting or computer science? Can they interact with successful people without spilling spaghetti everywhere or creeping them out? Could they find and successfully complete an internship? Could they reliably show up to work every single day including remote sites when instructed? Could they complete tasks without a manager having to hold their hand?
I'm guessing if they could do all these simple tasks successfully they wouldn't be in the situation they're in to begin with. The days of midwits dicking around for 4 or 5 years and getting a good job with their 2.5 GPA in communications are long gone. They're probably your friends neighbor.
I was poorer before university.
>before University
12k to 20k per year working at Home Depot
>after University
60k per year for my first Engineering job after college and now making 120k.
I think it was worth it.
University is good if you broach it sanely. If you're middle class don't go private, stay in state, don't get a meme degree, etc. It's a great place to have unforgettable experiences, make life longs friends and romantic partners, network for jobs, and obviously, get an education so you won't have to turn wrenches for a living. Most in-state public schools you're looking at 30-40k of debt after four years, which probably seems like a lot to teenager that just graduated high school, but that's on par with a middle of the road car.
Most six figure debt horror stories are from people that went out of state or private when they couldn't afford it. My only regret is not going sooner straight out of high school and letting penny pinching neurotics meme on the community college transfer program to save money.
Go to school, study something you enjoy, make friends, and have fun anons.
>make life longs friends and romantic partners
you will never see them again, after graduation you flock out into all the directions of the compass and never meet up again
you try to do any form on electronic keeping up, but one year later you are too hung up on your bullshit job and problems to even take the effort to do that
then 10 years down the line you might get a wedding invite out of the blue and go literally who
and thats it for your life long friends
Some people do maintain contact. And even if it's the case that you do lose contact you're left with unforgettable memories and an enjoyable experience. I get that it's popular on IQfy to hate on everything and be as misanthropic and pessimistic as possible, so nothing I can say will probably convince you. If you want to be bitter all your life that's on you. I've said what I had to say.
thats projection, i only gave them the most realistic outcome for most people possible
the value judgement is on you
and yes i agree the memories are what counts, but he poster i replied too was either bullshitting or completely unaware
Both arguments hold merit. The reality is 80% of the population are not fit for much more than scrubbing toilets. We've somehow convinced this 80% that by getting a degree they deserve a better life than scrubbing toilets. For about 20 years the ridiculous riches of America were able to deliver on this promise to that 80%. Now the party is up and they 80% have to go back to scrubbing toilets, but they don't want to and have been told they shouldn't have to.
As long as you're not part of the 80% toilet scrubbing mongoloids, go to college. Otherwise drop out of society or start scrubbing toilets.