dreams
a) are random noise
b) are magnified stimulus while sleeping
c) facilitate practice / desensitize
d) predict the future
e) ...
what is the truth guys
dreams. a) are random noise. b) are magnified stimulus while sleeping. c) facilitate practice?
I think one of the theories Freud toyed with was that dreams are a way to express unconscious energies while you're still asleep, so that their impulse to be realised doesn't wake you up.
sounds reasonable. but also dreams only occur in rem sleep, so its not like brain isn't capable of staying asleep without dreaming.
Dreams don't only occur in rem sleep. And he never argued dreams are essential to sleep, simply that they are a sort of protector of sleep.
Dreams are manifestation of the Real
what does that mean
I haven't had a dream in years, if I am dreaming I don't remember any of it when I wake up.
Sigmund Freud was a grifter making shit up as he went along. You'd have to be a moron to take his "theories" seriously, which is why mostly leftists keep parading his corpse around as if people still take him seriously. How else are they supposed to convince themselves that all the people that disagree with them are really just crazy?
let old freudy have it, now may i ask what you answer to the question would be?
Why do you desperately need an answer to something outside of your grasp? Are you autistic? Just enjoy the dream. Maybe it is providing insight, probably not. It's more likely that you simply experience the dream and then the imagination creates corrolations where you otherwise do not sense any like as in Humean causality.
why do you think im desperate? i do enjoy my dreams. im wondering if there is any good reason to take them more seriously.
Because you are asking questions about dreams as if you want them to mean something. And I just answered your question. It's all a conscious process, you'll take it seriously if you want to.
i don't want anything, the first thing i put on my list was random noise. you attempted to answer something thats for sure. i know i can take something seriously at will, that's not a reason to take something seriously, sorry to tell you.
Ok, then don't take it seriously. You don't have to after all. It's not like any human can ever hope to tell you with any credibility about the real nature of their mind, much less yours. Your mind is all you have to understand it, and telling your mind to examine itself is like telling the FBI to investigate itself. You're not going to find much or be sure that you see the whole picture. That's what the imagination is for.
okay so your stance is the nature of dreams is unknowable, bit boring but thanks for chiming in
It basically is, yeah. Do you disagree?
not necessarily but i am suspect of people who take that kind of path of least resistance, early forfeiture. i think anthropology / biology have given us some limited insights into the structure of dreams, which would make not equal to unknowable.
Communions with God or something
in my experience my dreams are just dampened forms of the thoughts I have every day. I'm pretty sure that the only reason you become "unconscious" is because you no longer process sense or motor information. from analysis of what consciousness is I am pretty sure it is extremely connected to the body, whereas abstract thought pretty much goes on automatically and subconsciously, contrary to what people think.
Probably not because the "subconscious" probably does not even exist.
I don't mean freudian or jungian subconscious/unconscious.
I didn't draw universal conclusion. that's why I said "my dreams" and "the thoughts I have." and why I said I am "pretty sure" consciousness is connected to the body. I'm sure you put that into ChatGPT with the prompt that it should be about how my post was "reductionist."
>Ah, a perspective molded by the crucible of personal experience, and yet, one must exercise caution in drawing universal conclusions from the confines of an individual's dreamscapes.
He never drew universal conclusions you insecure weirdo. Also, when it comes to psychology, universal conclusions are practically impossible without being dogmatic. You can neither look inside another person's mind nor trust your own mind to investigate itself.
Psychoanalysis is just advanced slave morality for people who want to dominate via elaborate gaslighting methods. They also think it gives their lives meaning without them having to submit to someone else, their insecurity won't allow it.
Do you happen to know what edition this is, specifically this one?
>what is the truth guys
Karl Freiherr von Prel
can u summate his ideas?
no
incapable or unwilling
my work here done
incapable confirmed
do yourself a favor and READ THAT homie CARL JUNG aka YUNG TRIFLAH aka SWEET LEMON TEA DICK MCGEE aka LIL WUNDERBAR A.S.A.P
dreams are: EEEK none of the above
dreams are: direct observable manifestations of the unconscious mind, a one way ticket to the underlying cavities of the psyche, a glimpse into the infinite unconscious
will do thanks
25% of each
Freud believed that the function of dreams was to allow the dreamer to continue sleeping. For example, if you have to urinate, you may dream of water falls. That was what Freud thought was the dreams function.
Before Freud touches on the function of dreams, he attempts to demonstrate that a dream has a sense, a meaning. It is not nonsense and cannot be said to be entirely random.
A dream is a wish-fulfillment, but also, at the same time, a defense against this wish. In this sense, dreams are what he called compromise formations.
Infantile dreams are pure wish-fullfilment yes but his theory goes deeper then that
Likely all of those
They are not mutually exclusive as different dreams can fall into different categories
B)
I've been having dreams that my computer gets destroyed by viruses which is a fear I get normally from having to keep my relatives' computers secure because they don't know how not to download viruses.
i think its a b c and d
plus maybe e) experience of alternate realities
also would expand b) as a brain/body scan of the rest restoration process
i've had a few dejavu/premonition dreams that really make me question wtf is dreams and or reality
they've all been very minor, perhaps 3 of them,
one was walking down a street and having a conversation with a random person, one was a conversation with my nephew at my mums birthday, and the third was just something happening at work
very strange, i question the veracity of this experiences and yet am disturbed by them
How can you get 4/5 wrong? Its e), something else entirely.
Dreams are in most cases, desires, edited in a deceptive way in order for you not to notice. Not always sexual like Freud wrote