>DUDE! install a custom OS for FREEDOM! It's open source too!
>doesn't even have root, literally cucked by the OS
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>DUDE!
>DUDE! install a custom OS for FREEDOM! It's open source too!
>doesn't even have root, literally cucked by the OS
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>doesn't even have root
what
das rite
/e/ OS, LineageOS, GrapheneOS, CalyxOS etc don't even give you root access
What do you need root on a modern Android device?
>Why would you want to do X??
classic cope response
GrapheneOS is developed by a schizophrenic security autist, of course it doesn't give you root by default.
Nothing is stopping you from getting root with these roms if you want (well, GrapheneOS might make it difficult, I dunno), it's just that it's much less common and useful to do nowadays and it's a security risk to enable it, so most roms aren't going to do it by default.
>it's a security risk to enable it
Root/Unlocked Bootloader is not a security risk.
It's security theatre.
Do you have any actual reason or do you want root just because?
It could be literally fricking anything.
What if I want to edit a config file for some application that you normally wouldn't be able to access, or edit a save file for a game.
Google authenticator, for example, doesn't let you export codes so you need root, or some other weird workaround.
I'm not sure why I would need to explain having complete control over your OS is a good thing on this board...
Just use sudo.
>Google authenticator, for example, doesn't let you export codes so you need root, or some other weird workaround.
Or, you could use an authenticator that isn't total garbage, like Aegis.
I asked because I wanted to give you rootless alternatives to whatever you wanted to do. And as
said, root isn't that useful nowadays, so I was sincerely intrigued in why you needed it.
I will admit, half of the reasons I see for people wanting root is to just remove the factory installed bloatware, which is an issue you're already past if you're installing a custom OS.
to install
dnscrypt
iptables
netfliter
to name a few examples
custom roms is massive meme, you just need root
Ad blockers basically.
all anyone really needs is a DNS adblocker 😉
>DNS server down
>no Internet
or
>open YouTube
>shit's full of ads anyway
Yes. I have a clear net profile with no ad-ons. Didn't even realize I didn't have ublock. Pihole is godsend. Not send my dns requests to Cypriots though. They are subhuman subservient. Only marginally better than pajeets.
On certain connections, third party DNS is blocked by firewall
A hosts file will still work, while Adguard DNS won't
you wouldn't download a HTTP page
To do shit on your SD card.
I use it to get adb backups of app private data
Sounds like something an Apple user would say. How far Android has fallen lately.
>why do you want full access to the device that you purchased?
security focused distros
>gee... i wonder why ONEHUNDREDPERCENTNOTMALWAREPLSGIVEROOTACCESS.apk is asking for root access on my phone... probably nothing, let me just enable it
if your os doesn't have the ability to firewall apps and monitor everything then root adds security as long as you are not moronic.
These are the guys that prefer Windows for its user account control feature.
>root adds security
Security against what? It depends on the user's threat model. If it's likely the that the feds might get their hands on your device, root or an unlocked bootloader would create a bigger attack surface.
>Security against what?
it depends on user but imo the three main thing that would give root the edge is the ability to monitor everything, spoofing anything and firewall any app including sys ones. some custom roms already come with these so in that case root wouldn't be more secure
> If it's likely the that the feds might get their hands on your device, root or an unlocked bootloader would create a bigger attack surface
aside from the fact that glowies probably have their own backdoors, root killswitches that scramble data and brick the phone would circumvent all of this. the encrochat phone caused glowies a lot of headaches because of this.
LineageOS provide a recovery flashable zip to enable root.
Not anymore
They tell you to use magisk and that magisk is not supported
Why would you lie on the Internet Anon?
I'm using /e/ ROM and my phone is rooted. It doesn't come rooted out of the box, that would be moronic, but you just have to flash Magisk and done.
> It doesn't come rooted
> I used a 3rd party program to do some hacky shit
hmm...
doesn't work at all with GrapheneOS due to security autism anyway
>I installed a hacky autist ROM but I won't install a hacky third party program which is way more useful
What's your point Anon?
Root by default doesn't make sense. Besides being a security risk, some apps won't work on a rooted phone.
Because rooting IS a security risk. If you allow some random app to have root access it can do literally anything on your phone. It's not like rooting is hard, anyone who is installing a custom romo can root no problem all the os needs to do is not go out of its way to stop you from rooting.
>If you allow some random app to have root access
that's the point you should start using your brain
Imagine having an option to give or to not give root access to programs like we do in desktop operating systems? How hard is that?
>Imagine having an option to give or to not give root access to programs like we do in desktop operating systems
kek, any desktop program can just keylog your sudo password
Don't pretend like the desktop has any kind of security model against local privilege escalation
THIS!
Fricking lmao
Imagine believing this shit when Google has literally access to your entire phone at any point in time.
>That's why you use a degoogled phone
all custom roms don't come with root access enabled by default. they shouldn't because that would remove the option of not having root.
rooting nowdays is incredibly easy. way easier and less risky than flashing a custom rom
adblocking without needing a vpn, call recording, greenify, firewalls, automation apps, full backup of everything, microG, way more customization, etc are just few reasons why you would root
>rooting nowdays is incredibly easy. way easier and less risky than flashing a custom rom
the other way around, back in the 5.0 and 6.0 days all you needed was a kingroot app
>kingroot
more like kingadware
any better rooting method for android 6.0?
it has always been superSU and magisk for a very long while now. the former for deprecated versions(<=android 5.x) and the latter for 6.x and beyond
>kingroot
anon...
how can you root with magisk when you have locked bootloader and unlocking it requires root somewhere down the line?
>unlocking it requires root somewhere down the line?
what?
you have to use adb to overwrite some modified aboot file to a phone's boot partition
it demands root access
Never seen that. Every time I rooted a phone it was literally flashing Magisk in TWRP.
To unlock bootloader, Xiaomi does it for you, Sony does it for you, I never used other brands.
>it was literally flashing Magisk in TWRP.
yeah, all cool and dandy but you have to put that TWRP there first and it requires unlocked bootloader, feat that LG deprived us of
I literally do all the things you listed except for the greenify with the stock Xiaomi Rom.
You don't need root in 2022, It's pointless and only opens you to a shitload of vulnerabilities.
>adblocking without VPN and without root
doubt
show me YouTube app without adds
What is YouTube Vanced what is braver browser you fricking mongoloid
>it's doable if you install a bunch of apps!
>It's all doable in a worst and less convenient way way by opening yourself to a shiton of vulnerabilities by modifying the os with third party tools from a shady chinese forum!!
You are beaindead
>shady chinese forum
is that what tim wiener keeps telling his applebros?
>opening yourself to a shiton of vulnerabilities
such as?
he's right. you don't know what shit is added extra to roms on xda or such. still, i want control over my device, so i take the risk.
>What is YouTube Vanced
An app that requires root or a VPN to remove ads.
Unusable, very very slow compared to YouTube app.
>Unusable
Works good on my $100 Xiaomi. In general, it feels like a different phone after all MIUI crap got removed.
I wish I had your discipline, but my patience level is almost zoomer-tier.
literally mobile Firefox with uBlock. yes, you don't need apps for everything.
without needing a vpn,
literally what? I don't have root on my phone and adbocking works just fine. I have ublock origin installed, no root needed.
How do you schizos even come up with this nonsense?
a system wide adblock without root routes all your internet activity through some dns server by creating a vpn. it's fricky and doesn't always work. a system wide adblock with root removes all ads locally.
your ublock origin only blocks ads on whatever browser you are using, a system wide adblock blocks every single ad on your phone
Local ads? What the hell are you talking about? Ublock origin removes all the ads I might ever see.
you can only have ublock as an extension on your browser moron, it's not going to disable ads from the youtube app or some random game. you need apps like adaway for that
means that when you use $RANDOM_APP from google play it does not display advertisements
idk why you would do this tho, because you can usually use apktool to decompile and edit or even fricking get better application from f-droid
The only app with ads I ever used was Mxplayer. I simply removed internet permissions for it and got no ads. Replaced it with MPV by now.
>/e/ OS
I use rooted /e/OS tho
You have to use Magisk or another root solution for that you fricking doorknob.
>sent from my iPhone
>muh root access
stop trying to rice everything
Why?
Have ya heard about magisk?
Giving root to your shitty droid apps. Sounds very safe.
You don't need root for an ad blocker you fricking moron.
Not to be 'that guy' but why do you need root?
Besides, you can always use a secondary phone for your root necessities.
You are pathetic.
realistically, unrestricted root is BAD, and instead of that rom should just give the interface for accessing shit with api calls instead of full blown root
That's good approach although that api and any api related to it, will be a big target for exploits and 0 days.
>although that api and any api related to it, will be a big target for exploits and 0 days.
that is why it needs to be simple enough to not have 0days on its own code.
polkit on android when
Is AdAway (root) pretty much ublock origin for the whole phone and apps?
Pretty much pointless if you have an adblocking DNS already.
more like hosts blocking
ublock allows more granular blocking
How long before SafetyNet makes rooted phones unusable?
>SafetyNet makes rooted phones unusable
None of my apps requires safetynet. I don't even have gapps, not even microg. Even my bank app works fine. If it didn't I'd just use the website.
Never.
Companies realized that hiring app developers to use a constantly changing API is more expensive than the benefit of locking down their apps with security theatre.
No I got an iPhone. All my problems with phones just vanished completely. Top security and attention to all the little details. Unlike android
>no foss apps
>no ad blocking
>can only use apps from his appstore region
>no customization
>no modified apps
>no ssd
>paper build quality
>unironically gets his phone scanned for the muh cp boogieman, cant do anythin ti stop it
>cant fight planned obsolesce
>weak peer pressured homosexual that wants to fit in
>overpriced
>most likely to get gunned by a Black person for it
only thing the iphone has going for it is that it wont filter you with some kind of woman, but you can keep those kind of women to yourself lol
I don't see any deal breaker in your list anon.
yeah no surprise, should have mentioned it supports homosexuals or Black folk amerite applegay?
That can only mean you're mentally handicapped, anon
>no foss apps
There are foss apps in the store
>no ad blocking
This can be done without modifying the host file.
>can only use apps from his appstore region
Literally a non-issue
>no customization
Only homosexuals rice their phones.
>no modified apps
iPhone apps don't need to be modified because they aren't garbage.
>no ssd
What?
>paper build quality
Projecting
>unironically gets his phone scanned for the muh cp boogieman, cant do anythin ti stop it
Only an issue if you're a pedo
>cant fight planned obsolesce
Non-issue, no sane person uses a phone for more than 3 years.
>weak peer pressured homosexual that wants to fit in
Android is for poorgays, see India for example.
>overpriced
poorgay
>most likely to get gunned by a Black person for it
I don't live in the United States.
>There are foss apps in the store
with apple's non foss code added. this the same shit as google play "foss" apps
>This can be done without modifying the host file.
it's not system wide ad blocking like rooted android, it's weaker
>Literally a non-issue
>iPhone apps don't need to be modified because they aren't garbage.
>Only an issue if you're a pedo
you were literally arguing for privacy you unpaid ikiddie moronic shill. all companies data mine their users, sell data and give backdoors to governments. apple simply advertises itself as most secure and private with no basis in reality.
if you want privacy and still want a normal smartphone, degoogled custom rom android is the most private.
Cope harder pajeet.
Apple on damage control
>iPhone apps don't need to be modified because they aren't garbage.
have spotify premium and havent payed a single dime
can download all roaties insta photos and no one can stop me
can keepa all whats messages even deleted ones and no one can stop me
>nothing to hide nothing to fear :^)
>Non-issue, no sane person uses a phone for more than 3 years.
>Android is for poorgays, see India for example.
>poorgay
>I-I not insecure but only poorgays go for android, r-right guys?
thanks for the concession goyim lmao, you are so successful goyim an example for your peers, can see a lot of thought in your decision to use Apple™ products, very geeky and intelligent anon, solid arguments to support your decision too, so free, smart, inclusive and brave!
>Only an issue if you're a pedo
or if you download a picture of a fricking dog lmao
Don't download images of underage dogs you zoophilic pedo.
No.
>All my problems with phones just vanished completely.
You wouldn't recognize a problem if it hit you in the face.
>want to try this os
>have to buy a pixel to do it
Why Google phones out of all the available phones on the market?
Because google implemented a ton of security features, some in hardware (Titan chip), released it unlocked, offers 5 years of updates and it's just a generally good phone. Plus it's popular enough to warrant development on the platform. (rip no-name chinkphones)
It's basically them setting the standard for the industry, like a reference phone. Graphene OS is just removing the spyware OS so you get the best of hardware and software.
Still, why Google specifically? It's not like there aren't other popular unlocked flagships with decent security.
I mean I'm not saying pixels are bad, it's just that buying a phone from Google specifically because I want to degoogle doesn't really sit right with me.
>I mean I'm not saying pixels are bad, it's just that buying a phone from Google specifically because I want to degoogle doesn't really sit right with me.
Thats why no one buys them from Google. Any schizo ROM user most likely bought theirs third party refurbished to avoid giving Google their money. Thats what I did. Then I slapped an all-black case on it to mask the Google logo (and to protect it of course) and installed Graphene.
There are no ties between me and google as far as this product go.
Doesn't graphene have Gapps? Even "sandboxed" that is using google. Or does it use micro-g(which is marginally better)?
not him but it doesn't use either by default, it only has f-droid by default.
Lineageos gives you root access but only with ADB. That is the most important kind, because it lets you access all your data.
the os on my iphone is perfectly fine
You don't want to have root exposed to the end user. android uses selinux to protect the Linux side of things but root is set up as in uncontained_t which means it can ignore the selinux rules. Making that power available to someone touching the screen would negate any security benefits. You are free to compile grapheneos yourself and set it up with root access but it is a fools errand.
SELinux and MAC is also security theatre
Openbsd will never be used to host classified documents by any government ever
BTFO
>unlock bootloader
>put password on twrp
>wipe fastboot
Now what, glowBlack person?
Stop being a jeet and use Linux on your phone
Android is linux dipshit.
>he doesn't know
Ubuntu touch is awful
Not exactly, and I mean GNU/ Linux on your phone
Why run GrapheneOS if you want root?
Literal bait thread
Downvoted (saged) btw
You can enable root with the OEM unlock feature. It's designed for the bootrom to be locked and secured for you to verify it's security.
What's root.
Seriously, I don't need anything that requires root.
root helps you cheat in pubg mobile. that's why we indians doesn't like any phone without root access
>not using the best Android distro, OneUI
ngmi
>nobody actually fell for this meme, right?
Once I read the OS protections would slow down the phone I said frick it. It would be cool and all but I'm pretty happy with my pixel as is. Plus I do all my banking, crypto and stock shit on a separate phone that isn't connected 24/7 and not kept in my pocket.
>Plus I do all my banking, crypto and stock shit on a separate phone that isn't connected 24/7 and not kept in my pocket.
you do know the latest versions of GrapheneOS now have a totally sandboxed Google Play/Services framework system right? The only thing not implemented I believe is safetynet but I think they are working on it. I have a pixel 4a and I love GrapheneOS with it.
I am planning on getting a pixel 7 device.
>getting a pixel 7 device
shit will have a tensor soc
don't get it unless you plan on being a beta tester
>nobody actually fell for this meme right
>graphene
>666 iconography
>jewgle only
no, no one who was smart enough to avoid the botnet fell for that meme.
Just compile AOSP from source you fricking loser lmao
I just want to be able to remove shitty bloatware that I'm never going to use as well as install and customize my phone's userspace. I don't much care for kernel customization.
The problem is that phones aren't customizable like that. Even though my laptop's processor is pozzed (like every processor sold in the USA), I can still install Linux on it and decide which packages I want on my system. I can't do the same with Android (at least not easily).
And the XDA forums are pure fricking AIDS. Everything is downloading a random binary from some shady website. You can really tell Windows users are also Android users. No fricking repos anywhere. No sane build instructions. Its complete garbage.
What phones allow me to easily install custom ROMs? I'm tired of buying phones that aren't customizable.
you can root your stock rom to remove bloatware.
official well known roms like lineage, calyx, graphene, etc are safe
roms made by some guy on XDA are mostly safe but you have to check the dev's updoots.
the google pixel has most rom support, popular phones in general are good
if you don't like any of this then make your own rom
>the google pixel has most rom support
You probably mean Xiaomi. It's ok buddy, everyone makes mistakes.
I've used Xiaomeme phones for the past 6 years and I'll never recommend it for custom roms even though there are so many. Their scene is full of 14yo indians and roms are pretty much shit with nothing working as expected. For example on my current one brightness is stuck at 100% if you unlock your phone with fp scanner and usb tethering reboots phone. Back in the Nexus days support was superb, Nexus 7 2013 is still being worked on I think and all stuff just works. Pixels will probably be as good because custom roms on them aren't made by pajeets, as they can't afford these phones
Sadly, I must agree. It took me ages to find working ROM for my Xiaomi. Now I am pretty happy with it, but it wasn't an easy road. The only good thing about Xiaomi is they don't give you much trouble with unlocking the bootloader.
>Back in the Nexus days
Back in those days Xiaomi was nothing but a company that made ROMs (MIUI) for other devices.
Back in those days Android was still interesting enough for developers.
Back in those days Indians were too poor to afford a phone.
Everything was better back in those days.
Look at official support devices on Lineageos website.
Pinephone.
I dunno how to help you anon. I have root on my $100 pajeetphone, running non-official LineageOS.
i want a blackberry priv or key2 running lineageos or something FOSS. Will it be possible in our lifetime?
Isn't it more secure to not have root access?
it is, but some like to live on the edge
well, the main focus of grapheneos is privacy and security, so OP shouldn't complain when graphene makes a choice to maximize security.
you will not have full control over your own hardware and you will be happy
Google will have more control over your hardware than you have. It should be this way, they are the experts. Also (You) could also be your enemy when they have your phone. Google is never your enemy.
> Google is never your enemy.
Nice bait homosexual. Try a little more next time.
Feel free to replace Google with Apple or Microsoft