Dune gets mogged by most genre fiction, unironically. It was only ground breaking when it came out and I only give the first book its credit thanks to its novelty and themes that are relatively untouched in other sci-fi media
It just isn't fun. I started reading the Dying Earth after Frank's Dune books and I had a blast. DE civilizations are much weirder than Dune's. Dune is literally the baby's 1st sci-fi.
Enjoyment doesn't necessarily mean "having a blast." When I first started reading "difficult" or "serious" (whatever you want to call it) literature, it was tough sledding, but then a kind of enjoyment often started taking hold, and then, further on, the kind of more muted enjoyment that I would get from reading serious literature could actually turn into the kind of thrilling experience ("a blast") that you can get when reading entertainment/plot oriented narratives. I'm not sure if my experience is a universal one, probably not, but my hunch is that it is common enough that this as a kind of rule of thumb.
"mid" is too generous. The writing, plot and characters are all garbage, the themes are awful, and the worldbuilding is just "dude, Arabian nights in SPACE"
>inspiration is when you steal word for word
lol that’s called plagiarism, sonny.
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I do the same for my romance novels and they've sold for lots
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There is so much romance slop we're probably reaching the probabilistic limit on how much you can write on the matter without replicating another work word for word.
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True genius steals.
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Good stealing is when you leave no marks and no evidence. This is a sloppy job because people caught him red handed. He’s a bad and superficial thief.
Yea
Dune gets mogged by most genre fiction, unironically. It was only ground breaking when it came out and I only give the first book its credit thanks to its novelty and themes that are relatively untouched in other sci-fi media
>It was only ground breaking when it came out
What a stupid fricking statement.
It just isn't fun. I started reading the Dying Earth after Frank's Dune books and I had a blast. DE civilizations are much weirder than Dune's. Dune is literally the baby's 1st sci-fi.
>chooses books hoping to "have a blast"
Why else would you read fiction (genre fiction at that) if not for enjoyment?
Everyone chooses fiction for enjoyment.
People choose video games to "have a blast."
Enjoyment doesn't necessarily mean "having a blast." When I first started reading "difficult" or "serious" (whatever you want to call it) literature, it was tough sledding, but then a kind of enjoyment often started taking hold, and then, further on, the kind of more muted enjoyment that I would get from reading serious literature could actually turn into the kind of thrilling experience ("a blast") that you can get when reading entertainment/plot oriented narratives. I'm not sure if my experience is a universal one, probably not, but my hunch is that it is common enough that this as a kind of rule of thumb.
>a blast
>weirder
Name 3 scifi books with better intergalactic politics
Foundation
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Culture series
"mid" is too generous. The writing, plot and characters are all garbage, the themes are awful, and the worldbuilding is just "dude, Arabian nights in SPACE"
>dude, Arabian night in SPACE
only the first, and maybe the second book. From book 3 and onwards it loses all its "MENA" flair, or any flair for that matter
It's even worse.
nothing wrong with taking inspiration
>inspiration is when you steal word for word
lol that’s called plagiarism, sonny.
I do the same for my romance novels and they've sold for lots
There is so much romance slop we're probably reaching the probabilistic limit on how much you can write on the matter without replicating another work word for word.
True genius steals.
Good stealing is when you leave no marks and no evidence. This is a sloppy job because people caught him red handed. He’s a bad and superficial thief.
This is anti-art cope
Yes, he should’ve come up with his own stuff
No I mean, the screenshot the moron posted
what?
Dune > God Emperor > Messiah > Heretics > Children > Chapterhouse
Simple as.
“Chapterhouse: Dune” is a bad title
>we have to fight with swords ... because we just have to ok?!!
The series turned to shit once gholas apart from the first Duncan Idaho started being a thing
Top of the bell curve is where the money is, OP.
>These books are mid af
true
>even when compared to other sci-fi series
false
scifi is a quasi-useless genre, it just so happens to have one half-decent series
It had one (1) good series and that was the original start of the genre.
*that this [can be taken] as a kind of rule of thumb.
meds
he's LITERALLY me