"ELDEST THAT'S WHAT I AM!"

>tom was here before the river and the trees
>tom remembers the first raindrop, the first big people and the first little people
>he was here before kings and barrowhites, before the elves passed westward and before the seas were bent
>Before the Dark Lord came from outside
(tfw you realize the reason Tom is "eldest" because he was Tolkien's daughter's teddy bear and he came up with story's about Tom Bombadil long before LORT or the Hobbit)
You know for an author who gets alot of shit for being insufficiently modern let alone "post-modern" having jouvenile/traditional writing style ect this really is a pretty big meta-mind frick when you realize it.
Its also incredibly, incredibly sweet..

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tolkien a shit
    bakker the real

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol
      apperciate it fren but i do think tolkien intended fans to pic up on this
      just kinda more on rereads then on the first go which is the sign of a good book not a poor one

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >tolkien a shit
      >bakker a shit
      >all genre fiction a shit
      ftfy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bakker is a perfect example of someone trying to mimic tolkien without understanding what made him special. dude things mashing random consonants together is the same as creating language, and man-rape is more inspirational than fighting evil

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really love the idea that, whilst the entire plot of the Silmarillion is going on, with cataclysmic battles between Morgoth and the Valar (and later the Eldar & Edain), Tom is too busy not giving a frick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well done. Never connected that

      Kinda a mind frick ngl..

      >I really love the idea that, whilst the entire plot of the Silmarillion is going on, with cataclysmic battles between Morgoth and the Valar (and later the Eldar & Edain), Tom is too busy not giving a frick.
      "Fair lillies for the fair river daughter!'
      "Come, let us to go to meet her"
      (my dudes was picking flowers for his girl while Fingolfin fought Morgoth)

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Well done. Never connected that

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda a mind frick ngl..

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You know for an author who gets alot of shit for being insufficiently modern let alone "post-modern" having jouvenile/traditional writing style
    I hate that he has this reputation. The whole concept of worldbuilding, especially to the extent that Tolkien does with meta-narratives explaining why portions of the text lie or are re-written, or showing how stories warp and change over time, is not at all detached from other literary movements happening at the time, including modernism/post-modernism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate that he has this reputation. The whole concept of worldbuilding, especially to the extent that Tolkien does with meta-narratives explaining why portions of the text lie or are re-written, or showing how stories warp and change over time, is not at all detached from other literary movements happening at the time, including modernism/post-modernism.
      This.
      Also just the entire narative of a flawed hero failing the fundamental test of the story and victory only being achieved ultimately through the corruption of a vilian rather then the virtue of a hero.
      Far more of an actual "grey" ending then anything GRRM has ever shit out his fat ass.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the reason Tom is "eldest" because he was Tolkien's daughter's teddy bear
    Based and dadpilled.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Dr08bzJ.png

      >tom was here before the river and the trees
      >tom remembers the first raindrop, the first big people and the first little people
      >he was here before kings and barrowhites, before the elves passed westward and before the seas were bent
      >Before the Dark Lord came from outside
      (tfw you realize the reason Tom is "eldest" because he was Tolkien's daughter's teddy bear and he came up with story's about Tom Bombadil long before LORT or the Hobbit)
      You know for an author who gets alot of shit for being insufficiently modern let alone "post-modern" having jouvenile/traditional writing style ect this really is a pretty big meta-mind frick when you realize it.
      Its also incredibly, incredibly sweet..

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bombadil#V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen

      [The Kalevala] was “the original germ of the. Silmarillion” (Tolkien Letters, 87).

      Even the river woman's daughter seems like insert of Aino, the Drowned Maid who Väinämöinen tries to rescue from the lake/waters

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also the Earendil Story comes from an Anglo Saxon poem Christ I

        Eala éarendel engla beorhtast
        ofer middangeard monnum sended

        which means more or less

        Hail Éarendel, brightest of angels, sent over Middle-earth to mankind!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bombadil#V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen

      [The Kalevala] was “the original germ of the. Silmarillion” (Tolkien Letters, 87).

      Even the river woman's daughter seems like insert of Aino, the Drowned Maid who Väinämöinen tries to rescue from the lake/waters

      >I will not cry from a lit Tolkien thread!
      >I will not cry from a lit Tolkien thread!
      >I will not…

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is okey to cry fren
        "for not all tears are evil"
        🙂

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >sniff

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Bombadil section is my favorite part currently.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The last time I reread LOTR Tom Bombadil's parts were some of my favorite parts of the story. I'm reading it again now, I can't wait to get to him. Currently I just finished "Three Is Company" last night.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love that much of Tom's prose dialog is still written in meter. Read it out loud and you can hear the poetry in his regular speech.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But he came up with The Silmarillion before he had any children

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