do not use
selinux and rpm suck
redhat does not care about the end user
also this
Yes, I'm aware of that now. I'm still glad I started with Fedora, I had the basics covered by the time I had to deal with the peculiarities of RHEL.
[...]
Bait or moron?
definitely moronic
It's the only linux distro I personally liked, I think Fedora Workstation (GNOME) and Fedora KDE Spin are essentially as good as you can get in the linux realm in terms of how professional and perfectionist everything feels. I like how much attention to detail they pay to give you a very vanilla, concisse, straightforward and logical systems where it doesn't feel like it just has a bunch of packages thrown and strung together like other distros including the big ones like openSUSE/Ubuntu, and Debian was way too slow to update, while Arch just has no defaults or care put into it. I did stop using it just because linux software in general is buggy and I noticed I only wanted to use windows software in the end so it was pointless to lose my nerves getting angry at X11/Wayland or GNOME/KDE being shit.
>as good as you can get in the linux realm in terms of how professional and perfectionist everything feels
yes >vanilla, concisse, straightforward and logical
no >Arch just has no defaults or care put into it
arch is one of the few distros worth using >I did stop using it just because linux software in general is buggy and I noticed I only wanted to use windows software in the end
same
I did
Switched to Ubuntu, is much better
as mentioned i run windows, but i always reach to ubuntu if i need linux e.g. for a specific project
Yes.
Started with Ubongo, but it fricking sucks. Everything from inheriting debians package meddling to bongos shitty customizations, ads and snap.
>when I type, send and approve "dnf update", the system updates???
I know a distro that is perfect for mongoloids like you
fedora shits itself harder than arch when you don't regularly update it. version updates are totally broken half the time
Update at the right pace for private use. Not so fast I want to cut my dick off. Not so slow shit doesn't work with new hardware like with debian. RPM is also the best package manager.
The only thing I remember about Fedora was that it wasted a shit ton of my time with that dnf crap because every time I tried to update or download something it had to check like 50 websites for some unknown moronic reason
>Look I'm updooting
I'm not some troony who is dilating while watching my OS updoot.
The only thing I remember about Fedora was that it wasted a shit ton of my time with that dnf crap because every time I tried to update or download something it had to check like 50 websites for some unknown moronic reason
Weird to see the website turn into some clickbait blog. I much prefered it when it was just the Pidora distro logo, with an awkward apology to Russian speakers.
It's the only linux distro I personally liked, I think Fedora Workstation (GNOME) and Fedora KDE Spin are essentially as good as you can get in the linux realm in terms of how professional and perfectionist everything feels. I like how much attention to detail they pay to give you a very vanilla, concisse, straightforward and logical systems where it doesn't feel like it just has a bunch of packages thrown and strung together like other distros including the big ones like openSUSE/Ubuntu, and Debian was way too slow to update, while Arch just has no defaults or care put into it. I did stop using it just because linux software in general is buggy and I noticed I only wanted to use windows software in the end so it was pointless to lose my nerves getting angry at X11/Wayland or GNOME/KDE being shit.
you do realize that code committed by those companies isn't all binary blobs? most of it is actually open and in your gigacuck kernel too
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>good open-source code committed by companies stays >obfuscated code or binary blobs with their bullshit is removed
I don't see the problem. Thanks for working on my kernel, wagie.
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>he uses a corporate bootlicker kernel
couldn't be me
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That's literally (You) though.
I'm on Linux-libre.
We've been over this already.
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yes we have been over this already and we have established that it's a corpocuck bootcaged cope kernel
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>bootcaged
Literally making up words to cope now.
Sorry your "le epic takedown" wasn't successful.
I'm just not using your kernel, is all.
Update at the right pace for private use. Not so fast I want to cut my dick off. Not so slow shit doesn't work with new hardware like with debian. RPM is also the best package manager.
I have a friend who uses ssd cache because he uses a big HDD where he stores his steam games, tells me I should do it too, once I just had enough and renamed my nvme where I store all of my games as "cache" and told him to shut up.
it was a petty, meaningless protest. I don't do anything consequential on my home machine for it to matter.
The short version of the story is that I was assigned to a task to automate something on a cluster of RHEL 7 servers. It would have taken me less than hour to do on RHEL 8, but I had to reinvent the wheel instead. The lost hours of my life made me salty and go over to Tumbleweed at home.
his favourite linux e-celeb told him red hat is bad so he had to distrohop
Yeah, no.... I have a real job and get paid real money to deal with enterprise bullshit. Redhat itself is fine (for now). My org is at fault for making me work with a thousand year old OS.
The fact you couldn't upgrade RHEL at your workplace doesn't mean it was Red Hat's fault though (depending on what were the alternatives at the time RHEL 7 was being the current version). I went through hell in order to deploy Debian at my workplace, 5/7 servers now have it and was all worth it, but I keep using Fedora on my computer and workstation.
Tumbleweed is comfy. I've been using it for a few months now and I really like it, though that whole xz thing is making me wanna go to something like Debian too.
Fedora was maybe my longest Linux daily driver, it was nice, comfortable, reliable, well integrated with all of the other Red Hat projects, relatively up-to-date, etc
Switched to Arch because of newer software coming faster, particularly the stuff that I want to have the latest version. I tried flatpaks in Fedora too, installed half of my setup using it, but all it did was bloat my root partition and annoy me when stuff didn't work out of the box as it was advertised and shit broke just because I switched the folder I wanted to use. By far the least well integrated piece of the current Red Hat ecosystem. It pissed me off so much now that I'm in Arch I compile everything that's not in the official repos.
Arch is just a better desktop system if you know what you're doing.
Used it for about a year and it was the most "out of the way" experience I've ever had. Then version 40 released which pushed wayland and ENTIRELY GOT RID OF X11, rendering my computer unusable.
Seriously if they just kept X11 I'd still be using it today.
Even if that's true, X11 is going to be a second-class citizen to Fedora devs now since it's not recommended, and I don't want to deal with that.
The ultimate solution would be for Wayland to get some more development so it isn't a broken mess, but I found out it's been in development hell for a decade with little to no improvements in sight.
Maybe it being forced as the only available option OoB for a major OS is going to change that though and get more attention to it. I'm mostly just pissed that it was deployed despite being in what I would consider an alpha state, not fit for general use yet.
As a secondary OS, I use Fedora Kinoite on my laptop. I wanted a distro that has new packages but also requires very little maintenance overtime since I don't use my laptop often. I don't use Fedora on my main PC because dnf is slow as shit, it doesn't have all the packages I wanted, and I don't like dracut.
No, I won't give root access to random incels for codecs and Mesa
do not use
selinux and rpm suck
redhat does not care about the end user
also this
definitely moronic
>as good as you can get in the linux realm in terms of how professional and perfectionist everything feels
yes
>vanilla, concisse, straightforward and logical
no
>Arch just has no defaults or care put into it
arch is one of the few distros worth using
>I did stop using it just because linux software in general is buggy and I noticed I only wanted to use windows software in the end
same
as mentioned i run windows, but i always reach to ubuntu if i need linux e.g. for a specific project
pretty much
Everything Fedora does, gets adopted by the other distros
No I use Debian stable (KDE installer, x11 session). Thanks for beta testing all the new software.
>Do you use Fedora?
I did.
>Why?
It won a coin toss against Ubuntu.
>Why not?
Too many fricking updates.
>Too many fricking updates.
That's because you installed a testing distribution, the stable branch is Red Hat® Enterprise© Linux™.
Yes, I'm aware of that now. I'm still glad I started with Fedora, I had the basics covered by the time I had to deal with the peculiarities of RHEL.
Bait or moron?
Yes.
Started with Ubongo, but it fricking sucks. Everything from inheriting debians package meddling to bongos shitty customizations, ads and snap.
>when I type, send and approve "dnf update", the system updates???
I know a distro that is perfect for mongoloids like you
>just don't update bro
Have you tried using Fedora 34 in the current year? Didn't think so.
>Too many updates
Don't update then.
bloated pozzed garbage rhel alpha test distro
fedora shits itself harder than arch when you don't regularly update it. version updates are totally broken half the time
>RPM is also the best package manager.
holy kek
The only thing I remember about Fedora was that it wasted a shit ton of my time with that dnf crap because every time I tried to update or download something it had to check like 50 websites for some unknown moronic reason
>Look I'm updooting
I'm not some troony who is dilating while watching my OS updoot.
You know you can just run it in the background.
I'm using Pidora and so should you.
The IQfy approved distro.
You stupid.
>it's real
Weird to see the website turn into some clickbait blog. I much prefered it when it was just the Pidora distro logo, with an awkward apology to Russian speakers.
I don't have a raspberry pi
It's the only linux distro I personally liked, I think Fedora Workstation (GNOME) and Fedora KDE Spin are essentially as good as you can get in the linux realm in terms of how professional and perfectionist everything feels. I like how much attention to detail they pay to give you a very vanilla, concisse, straightforward and logical systems where it doesn't feel like it just has a bunch of packages thrown and strung together like other distros including the big ones like openSUSE/Ubuntu, and Debian was way too slow to update, while Arch just has no defaults or care put into it. I did stop using it just because linux software in general is buggy and I noticed I only wanted to use windows software in the end so it was pointless to lose my nerves getting angry at X11/Wayland or GNOME/KDE being shit.
I did
Switched to Ubuntu, is much better
Only corporate bootlickers use IBM Redhat
>He doesn't know
I'm not using your cuck kernel anon.
What now?
kys
https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
you do realize that code committed by those companies isn't all binary blobs? most of it is actually open and in your gigacuck kernel too
>good open-source code committed by companies stays
>obfuscated code or binary blobs with their bullshit is removed
I don't see the problem. Thanks for working on my kernel, wagie.
>he uses a corporate bootlicker kernel
couldn't be me
That's literally (You) though.
I'm on Linux-libre.
We've been over this already.
yes we have been over this already and we have established that it's a corpocuck bootcaged cope kernel
>bootcaged
Literally making up words to cope now.
Sorry your "le epic takedown" wasn't successful.
I'm just not using your kernel, is all.
(You) are using it, though
>corporate bootlickers
>Uses corporate hardware
I don't like DNF and I don't want to rely on flatpaks for everything not on there.
You can use Fedora with no need to use flatpak ever, I don't even have flatpak itself installed on my Fedora installation.
you don't need flatpak on the regular Workstation release. if there is an application for Linux out there, it probably has Fedora support
You could give Distrobox a try
Silverblue chad here
Update at the right pace for private use. Not so fast I want to cut my dick off. Not so slow shit doesn't work with new hardware like with debian. RPM is also the best package manager.
Yes. Fedora KDE is the goat. Perfect mix of bleeding edge but not quite rolling release.
>Why not?
I've been using linux for over a decade now, I don't have the patience for anything that's not ubuntu or debian on desktop at this point
It was easier to run a FapGauntlet app on Fedora than Ubuntu.
Btrfs cache? Wut
I have a friend who uses ssd cache because he uses a big HDD where he stores his steam games, tells me I should do it too, once I just had enough and renamed my nvme where I store all of my games as "cache" and told him to shut up.
i used fedora until they started to push gayland, then i went back to arch because it just werks
not a fedora user but damn. have fun with that screen tearing, ya frickin' archtard
absolutely no screen tearing on xorg + i3, constant flickering and tearing with sway
I don't agree with the Redhat Allyship Commandments so I use Debian because it's for Chuds.
I used Fedora for almost a decade but I use Tumbleweed now. Rolling distros are nice but I'll probably go to Debain in the future.
I ditched Fedora because I got fed up having to deal with RHEL bullshit at work and installed Tumbleweed on a whim.
>RHEL bullshit at work
Can you be more specific? How does RHEL bullshit affected your Fedora experience?
his favourite linux e-celeb told him red hat is bad so he had to distrohop
it was a petty, meaningless protest. I don't do anything consequential on my home machine for it to matter.
The short version of the story is that I was assigned to a task to automate something on a cluster of RHEL 7 servers. It would have taken me less than hour to do on RHEL 8, but I had to reinvent the wheel instead. The lost hours of my life made me salty and go over to Tumbleweed at home.
Yeah, no.... I have a real job and get paid real money to deal with enterprise bullshit. Redhat itself is fine (for now). My org is at fault for making me work with a thousand year old OS.
The fact you couldn't upgrade RHEL at your workplace doesn't mean it was Red Hat's fault though (depending on what were the alternatives at the time RHEL 7 was being the current version). I went through hell in order to deploy Debian at my workplace, 5/7 servers now have it and was all worth it, but I keep using Fedora on my computer and workstation.
Tumbleweed is comfy. I've been using it for a few months now and I really like it, though that whole xz thing is making me wanna go to something like Debian too.
the xz could've affected any distro, no matter how xz was linked to your system.
That type of attack is more likely to affect bleeding edge distros, precisely because they're the first ones to pull backdoored shit from upstream.
because i use openSUSE anon
>Do you use Fedora?
I did, not anymore.
>Why?
It was the distro i got recommended by a teacher back in 2015
>Why not?
I like Arch more and i like the KISS philosophy
Because linux mint exists, It's ubuntu but if it was good
Betacuck distro.
Wanna give Fedora Kionite a go someday but don't trust Ostree yet.
Fedora was maybe my longest Linux daily driver, it was nice, comfortable, reliable, well integrated with all of the other Red Hat projects, relatively up-to-date, etc
Switched to Arch because of newer software coming faster, particularly the stuff that I want to have the latest version. I tried flatpaks in Fedora too, installed half of my setup using it, but all it did was bloat my root partition and annoy me when stuff didn't work out of the box as it was advertised and shit broke just because I switched the folder I wanted to use. By far the least well integrated piece of the current Red Hat ecosystem. It pissed me off so much now that I'm in Arch I compile everything that's not in the official repos.
Arch is just a better desktop system if you know what you're doing.
>particularly the stuff that I want to have the latest version
like what?
Just ffmpeg, my desktop and mpv, things of that nature usually
>my desktop
personally I can't stand having to keep updating the desktop
How did you get your nvidia card to work reliably on fedora?
install akmod-nvidia
Used it for about a year and it was the most "out of the way" experience I've ever had. Then version 40 released which pushed wayland and ENTIRELY GOT RID OF X11, rendering my computer unusable.
Seriously if they just kept X11 I'd still be using it today.
You can install x11 though
Even if that's true, X11 is going to be a second-class citizen to Fedora devs now since it's not recommended, and I don't want to deal with that.
The ultimate solution would be for Wayland to get some more development so it isn't a broken mess, but I found out it's been in development hell for a decade with little to no improvements in sight.
Maybe it being forced as the only available option OoB for a major OS is going to change that though and get more attention to it. I'm mostly just pissed that it was deployed despite being in what I would consider an alpha state, not fit for general use yet.
Well, that's what is Linux mostly for. Let's hope for the better, it would benefit us all.
Isn't Fedora totally pozzed by our three-letter-agency friends?
Arch just werks and problems with it are skill issues.
Werks until it doesn't. See:
But let me guess, you should have read the forums and should have known, therefore user error. You can keep your tinkershit OS.
As a secondary OS, I use Fedora Kinoite on my laptop. I wanted a distro that has new packages but also requires very little maintenance overtime since I don't use my laptop often. I don't use Fedora on my main PC because dnf is slow as shit, it doesn't have all the packages I wanted, and I don't like dracut.