Flanders and the Netherlands unite. Do the low lands historically mog Italy in the art department now?

Flanders and the Netherlands unite.
Do the low lands historically mog Italy in the art department now?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Dutch renaissance artists paint such fricked up looking faces?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because the low landic people are incredibly inbred and ugly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen the reconstruction for yde girl?

        > Yde Girl (English: /ˈJdə/ (listen)) is a bog body found in the Stijfveen peat bog near the village of Yde, Netherlands. She was found on 12 May 1897 and was reputedly uncannily well-preserved when discovered

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Grim

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is now a Netherlands/Flanders appreciation art thread

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why did Europeans wear such weird headgear in the 1430s?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why does Jesus look Chinese here?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >those babies
          LMAO
          If my local artists painted like this I'd be a radical Calvinist iconoclast too.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Van Eyck was Flemish and catholic

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The babies are meant to look deliberately old

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How is the perspective on small round/bulbous/cylindrical objects so good but the perspective on people and completely ordinary objects like shelves so bad?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_boxwood_miniature

      some wonderful stuff most people dont know about

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Brueghel the elder seen as one of the best of all time?

    I don’t see what makes his art so special

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That's an easy question!
    Obviously not.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Plebeians choose Italy
      Expert art connaisseurs choose low lands

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >connaisseurs

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Italy is better. At best you could say the Netherlands were better per capita, or per square km. But you can't beat Italy. Botticelli, Titian, Michelangelo, Raphael, Da Vinci, Cravaggio, Bernini, Tintoretto

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are Michelangelo, Da Vinci and Raphael the Federer, Djokovic, Nadal of painting?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Italy>France>Netherlands>others

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >France
      Lol
      Also Belgium has better artists than Netherlands

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why the antagonism
    were brothers
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utrecht_Caravaggism

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can has blonde big booba Flemish gf?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >blonde
      flemish are mainly swarthy and brunettes its where the mediterranean begins
      also good luck competing with morrocons and congolese for them

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you've never been in Flanders
        most native Flemish have blonde hair

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          im from north brabant and i can bike to antwerp. when i spot a native flemisch there ill let you know

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah I mean we have a lot of immigrants. Even in the most rural parts the whites are 75% Italian
            also many French migrated here
            we've been swarthified a lot

            but native Flemish are most likely blonde.
            Also we are literally the same as north-brabant people. you're kinda calling yourself a med here
            the real difference is above the rhine and below not Flanders and Netherlands

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        im from north brabant and i can bike to antwerp. when i spot a native flemisch there ill let you know

        the flemish are largely blonde and blue eyed, keep coping swarthy waloonian frenchcuck

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          flemish and walloons are not different look wise, flemcuck

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yes they are

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            and how are they different

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            its like saying theres no difference between french 'people' and dutch people

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see so you don't know what you are talking about, and you probably aren't even from Europe, nor from Belgium like myself; because that's not how it works at all.

            Flemish aren't "dutch people" and Walloons aren't "french people".

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            im from the netherlands
            flemish are dutch are literally interchangable. the entire reason antwerp stopped being the wall street of europe and amsterdam became it, is because antwerp rapefugees came in droves to escape the spanish.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Antwerp

            i really dont care for the wallons they are most likely the most irrelevent group of people to have ever lived

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >most likely the most irrelevant group of people to have ever lived
            Bijna juist.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Literally no difference between Flemish and Walloons moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            keep up the cope proto Italian

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Even your prophet Himmler said that Walloons are Germanic, nordcuck.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not saying they are not germanic, they are. But they are barely predominantly germanic while Flemish have a bit more germanic dna compared to celtic.
            the difference isn't huge but it's there. Just like there is a difference between Dutch and Flemish.

            It's just a north-south thing. The further down in the BeNeLux you go the less germanic its gets, with 2 big borders. The Maas river and the language border.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It's actually diagonal, so a guy from Luik is more Germanic than a guy from Brugge. And the differences are microscopic, so stop with this autism. You are so obsessed with the Walloons that you forget that 1/3 of the people living in Belgium are foreigners.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No don't get me wrong I hate foreigners much more than Walloons
            Actually I quite like Walloons and Wallonia. Only thing I hate about them is that they refuse to learn Dutch

            Personally I just find language and ethnicity the only elements that unite a people into a single country. Unfortunately I only share one thing with Walloons and 2 with Dutchoids. But I'm not necessarily for independence or joining the NL. Doubt it would improve things around here much, or even change anything at all.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The Dutch are swamp israelites.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            and that a lot of walloons are long lost Flemings taken in to the lands of the dark lords
            a sad tale of the economic hardship caused by dutch greed and vindictiveness by closing of the Schelde "maar we zijn toch broers?" niet nadat ze ons voor eeuwen de economishce afgrond hebben ingeduwd door ons internationale handel te ontzeggen
            [...]
            als we bij nederland zouden gaan dan worden we nog minder goed behandeld als ze nu hun boeren behandelen.
            moesten de wallen hun ego trip even kunnen achterlaten en een voorbeeld nemen aan het deel van het "land" dat het wel goed doet dan was er geen sprake van vlaamse onafhankelijkheid. Het is de waalse drang tot stagnatie dat hun de dieperik in duwt.

            de doorgedraaide PS-corruptie vind ik ook niet bepaald schitterend
            een gigantisch schandaal waarbij PS kopstukken zichzelf massaal aan het verrijken waren met een daklozenfonds dat aan het licht kwam vlak voor de verkiezingen en dan nog veruit de grootste partij worden, zet mij echt aan het denken

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            wallonie is doet je meer denken aan een derde werled graai land dan aan een westerse democratie.
            Ik was er laast voor zaken en het verschil tussen de verloedering en drugsverslavden die aan een rood licht gestolen goederen zaten te leuren voor drugs geld. En dan een overgefinancierd staats project in de cultuur met eigen keuken en catering was echt frappant.
            Het is niet dat we in Vlaanderen ons geld niet verkeerd uitgeven. Maar is hier voldoende welvaart dat zelfs de vld het niet allemaal kan ontvreemden.

            Een land met 2 talen is gewoon een grap.
            Het is ondertussen ook wel duidelijk dat de Walen nog liever sterven dan een voorbeeld te nemen aan Vlaanderen. Dat bedoel ik zelfs niet slecht maar Walen zijn enorm fier op hun taal. Voor hoe dichtbij we geografisch leven is er ook wel echt een cultuurverschil

            dat is juist het grappige. Er zijn bar weining "echte walen" over. Het merendeel is of van buitenlandse oorsprong of is van oorsprong op zijn minst Vlaams. Hun voorouders konden het offer brengen om te verhuizen en een nieuwe taal te leren om hun brood te verdienen. Maar zij kunnen dat niet zolang ze aan de borsten van de sociale zekerheid kunnen leuren. En ondertussen gaan Vlaamse bedrijven in noord Frankrij mensen gaan zoeken en die willen dan wel de taal leren en verhuizen.
            De grootse groep eerste generatie migranten in Brussel zijn Franse en ik ken er meerdere die beter Nederlands kunnen dan mijn waalse collegas. En die collegas zijn dan rond uit belgisistisch maar kunnen omper goeie dag zeggen.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Klopt maar andersom is ook wel gebeurd.
            In Brussel heb je heel wat Vlamingen die verfranst zijn tijdens de 19de eeuw. Je hebt er heel wat Brusselaars met Nederlandse achternamen die gewoonweg geen één woord Nederlands spreken.

            had een videogesprek met een 'Timmermans' die enkel Frans sprak en een beetje gebrekkig Engels. Moest moeite doen hem niet uit te schelden.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I just find language and ethnicity the only elements that unite a people into a single country.
            Nice, you are a piece of shit liberal atheist. Dont 'forget it's subhuman leftists like you who created nationalism to change the political field from monarchies to ''''''''democracies'''''' in order to make your ''''human rights'' the legal norm.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            and that a lot of walloons are long lost Flemings taken in to the lands of the dark lords
            a sad tale of the economic hardship caused by dutch greed and vindictiveness by closing of the Schelde "maar we zijn toch broers?" niet nadat ze ons voor eeuwen de economishce afgrond hebben ingeduwd door ons internationale handel te ontzeggen

            No don't get me wrong I hate foreigners much more than Walloons
            Actually I quite like Walloons and Wallonia. Only thing I hate about them is that they refuse to learn Dutch

            Personally I just find language and ethnicity the only elements that unite a people into a single country. Unfortunately I only share one thing with Walloons and 2 with Dutchoids. But I'm not necessarily for independence or joining the NL. Doubt it would improve things around here much, or even change anything at all.

            als we bij nederland zouden gaan dan worden we nog minder goed behandeld als ze nu hun boeren behandelen.
            moesten de wallen hun ego trip even kunnen achterlaten en een voorbeeld nemen aan het deel van het "land" dat het wel goed doet dan was er geen sprake van vlaamse onafhankelijkheid. Het is de waalse drang tot stagnatie dat hun de dieperik in duwt.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Een land met 2 talen is gewoon een grap.
            Het is ondertussen ook wel duidelijk dat de Walen nog liever sterven dan een voorbeeld te nemen aan Vlaanderen. Dat bedoel ik zelfs niet slecht maar Walen zijn enorm fier op hun taal. Voor hoe dichtbij we geografisch leven is er ook wel echt een cultuurverschil

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yeah and blonde and bright eyes are ugly, fricking moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            would look better with blue eyes
            Brown hair or even better, black with blue eyes is the goddess combo

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Artists just follow the money, Belgium (actually Flanders) was one of the wealthiest regions in Europe until the dutch succession war.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Correction, secession war.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nah, no one beats the Italians.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    .

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I notice you've only posted paintings. Surely the Renaissance Dutch had sculptors and architects to compete with the Italians, no?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes my darling

      Category:16th-century Flemish sculptors

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, they all studied under Italian masters and took influence from Italian styles.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that's a flat out lie
      the northern renaissance started independently and if anything it were the Flemish who taught shitalians the art of oil painting

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dutch golden age certainly does

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Medshitters coUld never touch germanic artistic beauty

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Flanders didn't have the same meaning as it has today, it was used for a much bigger region, including Wallonia, the north of France, the south of the Netherlands and some small territories that are today in Germany or Luxembourg.
    For instance Rogier van der Weyden's name was Roger de la Pasture and he was from Tournai.

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