For me, it's Mate.
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Okay, mate.
Based choice. I switched to Cinnamon but this was my bread and butter before.
IQfy gays complain about gnome3/4 but won't use the gnome2 fork
Same. Good stuff.
It's mostly a matter of taste, like preferring mustard over harissa or pepper-sauce on your fries, but at least tell us why you prefer Mate over other DEs.
>modern, innovative desktop metaphors
>avoids gnomeshit entirely
I like mate but why two (2) taskbars?
You can have four (4) of them if you want!
I use Debian MATE on a laptop. I'll slowly be switching to it on all my machines.
You can have 1 that disappears (my fav) or surround your desktop an all 4 sides. They're called panels BTW. No taskbars here.
I always liked Gnome 2 but the dual panel/bar thing only really works on 4:3 or 5:4,on wider aspect ratios it wastes too much space.
You morons realize you can just right click the second panel and remove it, right?
why not use cinnamon then? or gnome fallback?
To make you feel safe and cozy sandwiched in between the niceness of the UI
MATE is for people who have nostalgia for gnome 2 (me)
use icewm with old theme
What say you to MATE users that have never experienced Gnome 2?
WHat about that, HUH?
debian has an option to launch on gnome classic
isn't it the same thing?
No, that's a traditional-style desktop but still using GNOME 3 components. Mate is a fork of GNOME 2.
>GTK3
trash, just like XFCE
MATE may be GTK3, but unlike Xfeces, it still stuck to its vision. They never forced CSD on you.
How's it going there, down under?
it's ugly, lacks keyboard shortcuts, and the motivation for having 2 bars doesn't make sense to me. what do you like about it?
>and the motivation for having 2 bars doesn't make sense to me. what do you like about it?
I never got that either, even stuff like GNOME with a top bar and a dock, which many often use, feels like a waste of vertical space, same for MacOS.
Microsoft figured it out with Windows 95, there's no need to change it just for the sake of being a bit unique.
MATE is great for old netbooks.
its always linux with these pedos lol
dont answer to tripgays, dont interact with them, just spit on them and hide their posts
Your Australian gender pronoun is 'mate'?
good on ya!
Nice, been using linux for almost 20 years and its always been gnome 2. Never got into lardass kde unity xfeces. Icewm good on old hardware but mates footprint is already under 800mb on idle, only thing to benefit from reducing further overhead would be some sort of electronic doorstop.
>Never got into lardass kde unity xfeces
xfce is leaner
>mates footprint is already under 800mb on idle
so is windows without defender kek
>inb4 server os
fully usable and feature parity with LTSC, mind you
have to go back to 1709/W7 for relatively recent hardware, both options eol. once eol hits for windows 20h2 its further downhill from there, i can count on debian not changing much for another decade
In a pre-flashpocalypse world where browsers used ~80mb ram and all of the config options were under the control panel, id say linux wasnt even worth looking at. At least ms isn't to blame for web bloat.
>have to go back to 1709/W7 for relatively recent hardware, both options eol. once eol hits for windows 20h2 its further downhill from there
no need to mess around with consumer windows versions if you want to stick to a release and only get security updates. that's exactly what windows server/ltsc is for, you get 10 years of support. in the screenshot you can see windows server 2022 is based on windows 10 21H2. server 2019 is based on 1809, sever 2016 based on 1607
>Go torrent winlard again
>Keep a 80gb stack of isos
>Frick with driver infs so they actually install and stop windows update from fricking them
>Tell the customer they cant change the ugly ass interface
>Get paid the exact same
> <2yrs support for systems with 8gb ram being held back by graphics drivers
>Re-install debian anyways at that point if the pissed off customer brings me back their shit
Black person, normies have had android phones for a decade, the days of them not using a linux distro because they cant point and click on a .exe install wizard are over, im not putting that effort in for a even more mediocre experience
>>Go torrent winlard again
>>Keep a 80gb stack of isos
>>Frick with driver infs so they actually install and stop windows update from fricking them
https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html
rest of your post is irrelevant schizobabble as far as i'm concerned. but yeah debian is probably better for normies who use their OS as a glorified browser launcher, but only if you install it for them. and ubuntu is borderline unusable these days, really fricking bloated and slow. the shittification within the linux ecosystem is scary
sure, thats why im talking about debian with mate, in a mate thread. i dont care about whatever horse shit canonical is cooking up these days.
Graphics drivers limiting end users to 1709 has been my primary argument, relevant as ever. $50 to keep using some shitbox from 2008 or $350 to get some n3060 4gb ram 32gb emmc doorstop from Walmart thats slower than it, normies dont need convincing on that one.
For me it's Sway.
Extremely fast, stable and intuitive.
IQfy will screech about Wayland but I just don't give a frick.
chyoto mate
>have a somewhat powerful PC (when compared to the average)
>still install it XFCE for that small gain in memory usage
I'm sick and tired of being like that. Next time I'll install MATE or Cinnamon. Mark my words, IQfy. I'm doing some changes. I will be different.
mate is xfce with less features. at least get cinnamon, but then you'll also get more bugs. nope, xfce is still king. do something productive instead
sorry, that's just the absolute state
Whew, that was close. That's all that I needed. Thanks, anon!
>mate is xfce with less features
What the frick are you on about?
MATE apps have way more features than Xfce apps.
Caja is infinitely superior to Thunar.
in the case of caja you are right that it has has a slight edge in terms of features, but how is it “infinitely superior”? otherwise i find that xfce programs are on par or better, and more customizable. like the terminal for example
caja is definitely superior
thunar is borderline unusable
also many xfce programs are either absent (xfce doesn't have its own pdf reader or calculator for example) or forks of mate programs (like the screensaver)
I have XFCE and I'm using that Caja thingie.
I used mate back in 2016 or so before switching to KDE. KDE is like mate but with a lot more, and if you have a modern PC it runs just fine.
>OS is called mate.
>No mating to be see anywhere.
Dafuq?
not OP
It's pronounced mah-tay and it means something interesting somewhere