Storm of Swords and Game of Thrones are badass. Clash of Kings is OK. The last two are kind of a slog, really could have been condensed into a single book.
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is pretty fun, too, and I haven't read the other spinoffs.
He got way to anal with the last two books, there really tedious at points. Not suprised he hasn't been able to finish cause there's way to much stuff going on and most of it is pretty irrelevant to the main story. He really should've started winding things down and bringing stuff together rather then expanding the world to the point where it becomes really difficult to put it all together
It's the enjoyable. The series is better written than a lot of fantasy out there and less well written than some others. I like the emphasis on the politicking and all the different noble houses and their histories, even if a lot of it doesn't hold up that well under scrutiny.
>noooooo dont call him that
Lmao, guy literally wrote 13yo girl or whatever age Dany was sex scenes but it wasnt wrong because nobles were engaging kids for alliances (which for some people means they were fricking)
You can write about children being sold into marriage and having to consummate it without being a pedo. Also George has said it was a mistake to make the characters so young, he originally planned a time skip but realized he couldn't do it without fricking the story up. You all need to get over teens having sex in books, even when their partners are older, it's a part of real life whether you like it or not. And despite what social media tries to tell you the vast majority of consensual relationships with age gaps aren't traumatic events for the younger party.
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>You can write about children being sold into marriage and having to consummate it without being a pedo. Also George has said it was a mistake to make the characters so young, he originally planned a time skip but realized he couldn't do it without fricking the story up. You all need to get over teens having sex in books, even when their partners are older, it's a part of real life whether you like it or not. And despite what social media tries to tell you the vast majority of consensual relationships with age gaps aren't traumatic events for the younger party
Cope harder pedo, and finish books georgie
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So wait, you call George R.R. Martin a pedo but then you say you want him to finish the books as if you're a fan?
You'd think you wouldn't be so much of a fan of GoT by your use of disparaging language.
I have faith that TWOW will eventually come out but I don't think that ADOS will ever be published unless it's written by some other guy after GRRM dies.
In terms of genre fiction yes but that's a very low bar. There fine grrm very imaginative he thinks up some cool fricked up shit and he's good with characters but as an actual writer he's nothing special. Much better then Tolkien though
It's genuinely the greatest fantasy series of all time, the characters are written like proper fiction, it's not like other "genre-fiction" like Sanderson for example, who's books read as fanfiction of some niche online community in some furry porn site.
LOTR is good for what it is, a classic that developed already existing ideas from mythology and religion creating a whole genre of fiction in its process, but Martin created genuinely complex and compeling characters in a complicated world which's themes are more relevant to the current state of the world than LOTR's are.
Contrarians in here like to pretend that Martin is a bad writter, but other than his cringe descriptions during sex scenes and his overly detailed descriptions of food, he's probably one of the greatest writers who's currently alive.
And to be able to develop all the different plotlines, all happening at the same time in different places, all crashing into others from time to time, and all of it building up to a much larger narrative, I don't think any other writer would be able to finish this series.
Mouthbreathers in here, who don't understand the themes dismiss the series for being "nihilistic", which they assume purely because Martin is an atheist, but the series is anything but nihilistic.
It's a series about how good people, good actions, and "good" overall can triumph against overwhelming odds.
It's anything but nihilistic.
I'd say that his sex scenes are not at all cringe, people only have two sentences they like to meme about. The "Myrish swamp" and "fat pink mast" line and I'd argue that they're perfectly fine within the context of the scene. These are the character's thoughts, not necessarily George's attempt at being "sexy". The swamp line comes from Cerci who is mentally ill and living out her male power fantasy during that lesbian sex scene. The other is from Sam who lacks confidence in himself and is also having his first sexual experience. Real life sex can be simultaneously funny, awkward, and arousing, especially if you like dirty talk. Don't know why people pretend that their sex lives are all exact reproductions of their favorite literotica stories or some shit.
I really dislike the sex scene from Catelyn I GoT since you have a 50+ year old man writing a sex scene from the perspective of a woman while at the same time laying out exposition about who Catelyn is and what her motivations are.
AND who can forget the suckling pig Lord Tywin feasted his captains and commanders on the eve of the Green Fork. Really showed off Tyrion's petty side when he storms off to bed hungry, all because he didn't like his place in Lord Tywin's array
I actually agree. I don't think his work itself is nihilistic, despite his blog posts being doomer porn. We'd have to see the end of his series, tho, to really draw a full conclusion of that
Le Roi de fer (The Iron King)
La Reine étranglée (The Strangled Queen)
Les Poisons de la couronne (The Poisoned Crown)
La Loi des mâles (The Royal Succession)
La Louve de France (The She-Wolf of France)
Le Lys et le lion (The Lily and the Lion)
Quand un Roi perd la France (The King Without a Kingdom)
George Rape Rape Martin is a fat half witted perverted israelite
it's a slog and martins prose sucks ass. He continually writes in run-on-sentences. His fatass describes food in more detail than pivotal characters dying.
his world is great and he has sprinklings of great dialogue, but I dropped these books and i'm satisfied to never go back.
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
I read the first one. Sure, the writing style is engaging, but all the characters are either hilariously evil or frustratingly stupid, and the story built on "HAHA EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED" moments. Don't want more.
It's a literal ass-pull.
Meaning he pulled it out of his ass blindly and didn't have enough imagination to steer the series after its initial 3 book successes.
He is a hack.
not to be pedantic, but to propose sincere inquiry. How long has the word "prose" be used to describe writing style?
The definition of prose is.
1 written or spoken language in its ordinary form, without metrical structure: a short story in prose | [as modifier] : a prose passage.
• plain or dull writing, discourse, or expression: medical and scientific prose.
to me it seems like the word is misused, but perhaps I am a moron.
It is fun. It's not the greatest thing ever written, and I will probably never be finished, but I had a good time.
This sums it up. The plots and conspiracies are fun, but it's not a masterpiece.
It's written by an atheist, so no
Storm of Swords and Game of Thrones are badass. Clash of Kings is OK. The last two are kind of a slog, really could have been condensed into a single book.
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is pretty fun, too, and I haven't read the other spinoffs.
i like a big of slogginess in the books, its immersive to hear about all the details and side characters, characterisations
He got way to anal with the last two books, there really tedious at points. Not suprised he hasn't been able to finish cause there's way to much stuff going on and most of it is pretty irrelevant to the main story. He really should've started winding things down and bringing stuff together rather then expanding the world to the point where it becomes really difficult to put it all together
It's the enjoyable. The series is better written than a lot of fantasy out there and less well written than some others. I like the emphasis on the politicking and all the different noble houses and their histories, even if a lot of it doesn't hold up that well under scrutiny.
fat old c**t better finish winds of winter AT LEAST, its been 13 years
Literally the best fantasy series ever written , even in its unfinished state.
Read it.
will be 888% better if author wasnt fricking pedo and fedora atheist
but its enjoyable
oh shut the frick up, he's not a pedo. Tired of people just flinging that accusation around.
>noooooo dont call him that
Lmao, guy literally wrote 13yo girl or whatever age Dany was sex scenes but it wasnt wrong because nobles were engaging kids for alliances (which for some people means they were fricking)
You can write about children being sold into marriage and having to consummate it without being a pedo. Also George has said it was a mistake to make the characters so young, he originally planned a time skip but realized he couldn't do it without fricking the story up. You all need to get over teens having sex in books, even when their partners are older, it's a part of real life whether you like it or not. And despite what social media tries to tell you the vast majority of consensual relationships with age gaps aren't traumatic events for the younger party.
>You can write about children being sold into marriage and having to consummate it without being a pedo. Also George has said it was a mistake to make the characters so young, he originally planned a time skip but realized he couldn't do it without fricking the story up. You all need to get over teens having sex in books, even when their partners are older, it's a part of real life whether you like it or not. And despite what social media tries to tell you the vast majority of consensual relationships with age gaps aren't traumatic events for the younger party
Cope harder pedo, and finish books georgie
So wait, you call George R.R. Martin a pedo but then you say you want him to finish the books as if you're a fan?
You'd think you wouldn't be so much of a fan of GoT by your use of disparaging language.
Quite contradictory logic you got there.
>pedophile talking
ok pedo
Cope harder sóyboy
>nobles were engaging kids for alliances (which for some people means they were fricking)
How old was Henry VII's mother when she gave birth to him?
Love ASOIAF 1-3
Like 4 & 5
I have faith that TWOW will eventually come out but I don't think that ADOS will ever be published unless it's written by some other guy after GRRM dies.
In terms of genre fiction yes but that's a very low bar. There fine grrm very imaginative he thinks up some cool fricked up shit and he's good with characters but as an actual writer he's nothing special. Much better then Tolkien though
It's genuinely the greatest fantasy series of all time, the characters are written like proper fiction, it's not like other "genre-fiction" like Sanderson for example, who's books read as fanfiction of some niche online community in some furry porn site.
LOTR is good for what it is, a classic that developed already existing ideas from mythology and religion creating a whole genre of fiction in its process, but Martin created genuinely complex and compeling characters in a complicated world which's themes are more relevant to the current state of the world than LOTR's are.
Contrarians in here like to pretend that Martin is a bad writter, but other than his cringe descriptions during sex scenes and his overly detailed descriptions of food, he's probably one of the greatest writers who's currently alive.
And to be able to develop all the different plotlines, all happening at the same time in different places, all crashing into others from time to time, and all of it building up to a much larger narrative, I don't think any other writer would be able to finish this series.
Mouthbreathers in here, who don't understand the themes dismiss the series for being "nihilistic", which they assume purely because Martin is an atheist, but the series is anything but nihilistic.
It's a series about how good people, good actions, and "good" overall can triumph against overwhelming odds.
It's anything but nihilistic.
Completely accurate.
I'd say that his sex scenes are not at all cringe, people only have two sentences they like to meme about. The "Myrish swamp" and "fat pink mast" line and I'd argue that they're perfectly fine within the context of the scene. These are the character's thoughts, not necessarily George's attempt at being "sexy". The swamp line comes from Cerci who is mentally ill and living out her male power fantasy during that lesbian sex scene. The other is from Sam who lacks confidence in himself and is also having his first sexual experience. Real life sex can be simultaneously funny, awkward, and arousing, especially if you like dirty talk. Don't know why people pretend that their sex lives are all exact reproductions of their favorite literotica stories or some shit.
I really dislike the sex scene from Catelyn I GoT since you have a 50+ year old man writing a sex scene from the perspective of a woman while at the same time laying out exposition about who Catelyn is and what her motivations are.
The scene is post-coitus. I just re-read it. There's nothing cringe there.
>his overly detailed descriptions of food
Bacon burned black and roast beast and roast onions wit the juices dribbling down is just *chef's kiss*
AND who can forget the suckling pig Lord Tywin feasted his captains and commanders on the eve of the Green Fork. Really showed off Tyrion's petty side when he storms off to bed hungry, all because he didn't like his place in Lord Tywin's array
I actually agree. I don't think his work itself is nihilistic, despite his blog posts being doomer porn. We'd have to see the end of his series, tho, to really draw a full conclusion of that
Ask yourself if normies have good taste in books.
Read the original series by Maurice Druon
Le Roi de fer (The Iron King)
La Reine étranglée (The Strangled Queen)
Les Poisons de la couronne (The Poisoned Crown)
La Loi des mâles (The Royal Succession)
La Louve de France (The She-Wolf of France)
Le Lys et le lion (The Lily and the Lion)
Quand un Roi perd la France (The King Without a Kingdom)
George Rape Rape Martin is a fat half witted perverted israelite
I think both series are good 🙂
People will shit on gurm for not finishing his books but he's a pretty good writer for genre and for his time. Wrote for TV before, too.
>Is it good?
it's a slog and martins prose sucks ass. He continually writes in run-on-sentences. His fatass describes food in more detail than pivotal characters dying.
his world is great and he has sprinklings of great dialogue, but I dropped these books and i'm satisfied to never go back.
>I dropped these books and i'm satisfied to never go back
See you at the Barnes & Noble midnight release.
not a chance in hell.
THE MORE SHE DRANK THE MORE SHE SHAT
>Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
It's not finished. Why waste your time on something unfinished?
I read the first one. Sure, the writing style is engaging, but all the characters are either hilariously evil or frustratingly stupid, and the story built on "HAHA EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED" moments. Don't want more.
It's a literal ass-pull.
Meaning he pulled it out of his ass blindly and didn't have enough imagination to steer the series after its initial 3 book successes.
He is a hack.
The prose is so bad that I find it unreadable. But most dumb people read things for the plot, which is apparently entertaining.
not to be pedantic, but to propose sincere inquiry. How long has the word "prose" be used to describe writing style?
The definition of prose is.
1 written or spoken language in its ordinary form, without metrical structure: a short story in prose | [as modifier] : a prose passage.
• plain or dull writing, discourse, or expression: medical and scientific prose.
to me it seems like the word is misused, but perhaps I am a moron.