absolute slave morality at its finest >w-we're conquered, humiliated and curbstomped slaves, b-but we're better because our masters fancy some of our arts!
2 years ago
Anonymous
you mohammeds really hate europeand ont you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Get some help
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Belisarius enters the room >Not so fast, Germ boy.
The pope really just used Charlemagne to take back Italy from the lombards and return it to Roman/Italic control. The Holy Roman Empire was too decentralized to effectively rule Italy.
>absolute state of med cope
The Pope (an italian from an old stock roman Gens) literally puppeted Charlemagne to defeat the lombards and to create Old Vatican State lmfao
>literally puppeted Charlemagne
You mean he got assfricked by Charles as soon as he became King of the Longbards. He supported the Lombard Dukes and the Archbishop of Ravenna to attack Papal cities to weaken Papal power.
give their southron subjects a feeling of continuity under a new administration, too magnanimous if you ask me, I'd called myself "King of Alaric's plantation" or something like that
Same way that Somalis I’m Sweden are referring to their “Viking ancestors”. The dumb barbarian people always take over the sissy fancy country and steal their history.
The Visigoths literally achieved nothing but being a cumrag for the Franks and later moors with a grand total of one person who existed relatively independently of the Visigoth court who achieved anything
Friendly reminder that gothic peoples and eastern germanics were seen as a completely different people from north and west germanics by romans and Greeks. They looked different, spoke different, had a different language, different culture, different religion, and a completely different type of warfare from the Roman concept of Germans. All eastern barbarians, including steppe iranics, were known as goths by late antiquity and were often thought to be related to earlier Scythians. During their migrations eastern germanics absorbed so many Slavic, Iranian, and Turkic elements that they were no longer seen as kinsmen to the Rhine Germans. The most obvious difference to the romans was their inclination towards cavalry, probably introduced to them through Scythian subject peoples and later heavily reinforced by 2 generations of hunnic dominance. Even some western Germanic people, such as the lombards and thuringians, later became known for their cavalry because of their close geographic proximity to gothic peoples and later hunnic domination.
NEQUEO SPIRARE
VAE VICTIS
If I was Roman I would send a lot of gold and silver to migrate berber and african and arab tribes to buttfrick germanoids.
>Proceeds to LARP as romans
What did the Germanics mean by this?
To prove that they are better romans than the real romans.
>being jealous proves you are better
>Germanic Charlemagne is crowned Roman Emperor
>hahaha they conquered us and rule over us but that just makes them LARPers!
absolute state of med cope
Charlemagne was celtic
Fake and gay
Cope
Germanic Charlemagne had no worthy culture of his own and had to LARP as his betters. Snowhomierdry is good at chimping out not building societies
absolute slave morality at its finest
>w-we're conquered, humiliated and curbstomped slaves, b-but we're better because our masters fancy some of our arts!
you mohammeds really hate europeand ont you?
Get some help
>Belisarius enters the room
>Not so fast, Germ boy.
OH NO NO NO NO GRECOBROS
>we're culturally superior!
>loses
kek
Mehmed II was more Roman than Greekoids ever were.
next you are telling us that the ottomans were the eastern roman empire
Yes.
The pope really just used Charlemagne to take back Italy from the lombards and return it to Roman/Italic control. The Holy Roman Empire was too decentralized to effectively rule Italy.
>absolute state of med cope
The Pope (an italian from an old stock roman Gens) literally puppeted Charlemagne to defeat the lombards and to create Old Vatican State lmfao
>literally puppeted Charlemagne
You mean he got assfricked by Charles as soon as he became King of the Longbards. He supported the Lombard Dukes and the Archbishop of Ravenna to attack Papal cities to weaken Papal power.
give their southron subjects a feeling of continuity under a new administration, too magnanimous if you ask me, I'd called myself "King of Alaric's plantation" or something like that
Same way that Somalis I’m Sweden are referring to their “Viking ancestors”. The dumb barbarian people always take over the sissy fancy country and steal their history.
>everyone but the Franks and Anglo Saxons go on to achieve nothing of note
Anglo-Saxons too get vanquished if you want to play that game, doesn't make them unimportant. Same could be said for both Goths.
The Visigoths literally achieved nothing but being a cumrag for the Franks and later moors with a grand total of one person who existed relatively independently of the Visigoth court who achieved anything
What’s your definition of “achievement” exactly?
>exists for 50 years
>dissapears and get defeated by Eastern Rome and the Papacy
Friendly reminder that gothic peoples and eastern germanics were seen as a completely different people from north and west germanics by romans and Greeks. They looked different, spoke different, had a different language, different culture, different religion, and a completely different type of warfare from the Roman concept of Germans. All eastern barbarians, including steppe iranics, were known as goths by late antiquity and were often thought to be related to earlier Scythians. During their migrations eastern germanics absorbed so many Slavic, Iranian, and Turkic elements that they were no longer seen as kinsmen to the Rhine Germans. The most obvious difference to the romans was their inclination towards cavalry, probably introduced to them through Scythian subject peoples and later heavily reinforced by 2 generations of hunnic dominance. Even some western Germanic people, such as the lombards and thuringians, later became known for their cavalry because of their close geographic proximity to gothic peoples and later hunnic domination.