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yes and no.
I actually wrote a long response. Deleted it all because I'm pretty demoralized by these israelites.
you should have a nice day as a service to humanity. 100% of neo-nazis are subhuman garbage. you know this is true, you know you're inferior.
Yes, you have to be a really sick freak if you think humanity is heading in the right direction right now.
I am a sick freak.
go back to /r/neoliberal
>Literally the same thing Stalin predicted in the case of the USSR being defeated by capitalism
Horseshoe theory remains undefeated
Guess they were both right. Also real recognize real.
100%
>guys if we dont win things will suck guys
>randomly throwing jargon at the wall to see what sticks
it's easy to just fill in the blanks as to what an axis victory would be like, but sometimes i wish the Nazis won solely so we could see the epic economic and political collapse they'd have to endure by the 1950s/60s from such an unsustainable ideology
>nazi germany would have collapsed!
Ah, the npc "if hitler won" unoriginal take
>nazi germany wouldn't have collapsed if it won despite not being able to behave sustainably for 12 years in our lifetime because...they just WOULDN'T, ok?!?
How they would have collapsed? elaborate it, dipshit.
how wouldn't they have collapsed? elaborate it, dipshit.
seeing as they fricking collapsed prematurely in our timeline, i'm going to assume the Austrian Corporal and his moronic pal who believed in Atlantis flying saucers don't magically become more competent.
>how wouldn't they have collapsed? elaborate it, dipshit.
So you don't have any argument outside of the fact that you're butthurt about ze nazis? Good to know.
The same way the USSR collapsed, people would eventually get sick of their shit
>get sick of the chuds shit
>move to the east on your own farm
weeee, you trannies always forget Germany would have had massive amounts of lands and a need for people to settle them.
Yeah, the GERMANS would have been fine, just like most of the Russians were mostly cool with the USSR. It's all the French and Czechs and Estonians and so on who would start agitating for independence. What do you think happened in our 1989?
>"Socialist" economy dependant on slave labour and conquest, by itself a finite economy
>War with Japan and it's allies.
>Internal infighting as soon, or perhaps before, Hitler dies
>Sketchy, ever changing racial theories about who is an aryan or not bound to have so many contradictions
>Eternal campaigns of supression, eventually engaging in a never ending war against guerillas
>Extreme economic waste in dumb /x/ tier projects, as well as wunderwaffen
>dependant on slave labour
There won't be any, The NSDAP plan was to remove the slavic population by starvation and replace it with German settlers.
>conquest
"Only" Poland in their aim of abolishing the threat of a two front war, The Baltics for dominance on the North Sea and Ukraine for resources.
There's no evidence of any intention for conquest outside those territories.
>by itself a finite economy
All economies are "finite', whatever that's supposed to mean.
The Germans would've gained all the resources of their conquered territory without having to worry about feeding the population who lived there and there's quote from Goebbels about his intention of creating a single market in Europe.
>>War with Japan and it's allies.
Both Japan and Germany, if they had been successful on their aims, wouldn't have appetite or capacity for another large conflict, They would remain in a frosty state and only engage in proxy warfare, Just like America and the Soviet Union did in the Cold Era.
>>Internal infighting as soon, or perhaps before, Hitler dies
Wouldn't happen before Hitler's death, and when they did, there won't be any power in Europe to take advantage of it.
And no sucessor, be it Goebbels, Goering, Himmler or Rommel would have relinquished their gains.
>>Sketchy, ever changing racial theories
They weren't, You just have no knowledge about it.
>>Eternal campaigns of supression
Of who? The Germans? they only opposed Hitler when he was losing, National Socialism didn't arouse from nowhere, Most of Germans, even before Hitler had been born, did share those political inclinations.
Jews and the Slavs? The death can't fight.
>guerillas
Only the Russian territory would be large enough to provide ground for guerrila against a Germany not distracted with industrial war.
>dumb /x/ tier projects
Which ones?
>wunderwaffen
They only have been a issue in wartime for their lack of praticability, You're delusional if you want to contest their scientific significanceor the potential for their development in times of peace.
What this anon said.
Also you are mixing allied propaganda with the truth.
Generalplan Ost was never planned for the reasons below;
>1.Even if le nazis were le evil bad guys, genetically all slavic peoples had s significant amount of aryan genetics and could be easily integrated culturally if the war was won
>2.Politically all europeans ate aryan but at a hierarchy of purity of remaining aryan genetic admixture in peoples.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this at point 1.
Even if they were still le bad guys Hitler would have smartened up to the disastorous effects of the plan even if it did exist, it would turn all slavs into potential enemies and rebels. that would have made the actually planned and written in mein kampf lebensraum program impossible due to constant rebellion, also the instability of innocent slavic blood on their hands.
In short only someone that is too stupid to question things, or said actors purpose is just that is an idiot or ill intentioned.
>Generalplan Ost was never planned
It was but it's no where near as murderous as people assume because they are basing their idea of it on the ludicrous and ultimately rejected RSHA iteration of it. In reality, GPO planned for the settlement of twenty-five million Germans across a span of twenty-five years (Five-Year Plans) in very specific 'marks' across the East and at least sixteen 'anchor' points where very small injections of Germans were to be settled (for administrative purposes so bureaucrats and their families etc.) Beyond that, Ostland, Ukraine and Kaukasien were all to be fairly self-governing and indeed were during the war (with the exception of Ukraine which Hitler stipulated may attain protectorate status within twenty-five years following the war's conclusion). Realistically only Moskowien would be somewhat of a dump and even there the Germans regularly colloborate with the natives.
Nazi racial views were fairly diverse. Hitler's views were malleable and policy implementation was often based on a book (Myth of the Twentieth Century) that the Fuhrer lied about liking but had never gotten around to reading.
Bingo
Hitler did read The Myth of the Twentieth Century and he hated it, he said it was unintelligable pagan nonsence.
The national socialism of industrial Capitalism.
>There won't be any, The NSDAP plan was to remove the slavic population by starvation and replace it with German settlers.
Do you really think this was economically viable?
>Dependant on slave labour
A wartime stop-gap measure as more and more German men were conscripted, not some permanent feature of the National Socialist economic system.
>Conquest
Again, not a permanent feature. Why are people so fundamentally dishonest about this? Augmenting the German economy with the resources of absorbed and conquered territories (e.g. Austria, Bohemia, Poland) was, again, a short-term solution for rapid rearmament aimed at preparing for the only real war the Nazis always intended to wage, that of course being the war against the USSR.
>War with Japan and it's allies
For what purpose? Their spheres of influence do not overlap even slightly. Germany and Italy and Italy and Japan or more likely to find themselves at odds (and by more likely I mean the chances rise from 1% to 2%)
>Internal fighting
The Nazis already planned a post-war solution to this, a Constitution, a Senate, a whole period of Reichsreform and the splitting of the Fuhrer position back to Reich Chancellor and President (though the title Fuhrer may have been kept). And realistically, the only true contenders for the throne would be Bormann and Goring (even though Goring was the actual designated successor)
>Sketchy, ever changing racial theories
Now this one is true but there is little that would change in the way of actual policy depending on what route the Germans take with their Reichskommissariats.
>External campaigns of supression
In Moskowien perhaps, but that sure as hell wouldn't be enough to topple the Reich on its own.
>Extreme economic waste
Resource privation demanded that the Germans adopt such practices during the war. They couldn't spit out a thousand 'just good' tanks during the war like the Americans or Soviets could and devised projects that could do the job of a thousand tanks with just one. Naturally, with the resources of Continental Europe at their disposal, they are no longer forced to constrain themselves to this line of thinking.
Fair enough, I have been btfo.
Even if it was Maoist China tier misguided fanaticism there still would’ve arisen a Deng like figure.
Tfw we don’t live in the timeline where Speer becomes Germany’s Deng and economically whips Germany into shape/modernity
realistically it would have probably stagnated like the soviet union
The soviet union was unproductive shit from the start and only forestalled its demise with its vast access to resources and manpower, meanwhile Hitler turned germany from a broken, destitute slave state into the nation with the highest standard of living on earth in half a decade.
The efficacy of natsoc can be described as nothing short of miraculous, to conclude that it would suffer the same fate as an objectively inferior state just because they were both autocratic is nonsensical.
No, Germany was already pretty rich before the great depression hit. Also, Adenauer made Germany richer than Nazi Germany ever was in even a shorter timespan.
>nation with the highest standard of living on earth in half a decade.
Not even close. Most of Northern and Western Europe had higher standards of living. And obviously the USA.
Nazi Germany had unprecedented levels of Social welfare. This is where all the “Germany’s economy was destined to collapse without looting” stuff comes from.
And people were still poor compared to English, Americans or Nords.
In which year?
All years before the war.
You don't measure standard of living in GDP exclusively, they've had a vastly more advanced welfare system than other comparable nations, they took better care of their environments, they invested greatly into beautifying their cities and providing excellent education and extracurricular activities to as many children as possible.
There's a reason why in the weimar republic birth rates were declining, then under Hitler they drastically exploded and then shortly after the israelites got rid of him, birthrates started to shrink again.
He built a nation that gave people hope and confidence in the future, one that people wanted to raise children in.
I can measure it in children mortality and all the countries I mentioned still did better than Nazi Germany. Same with overall mortality.
Are you including wartime mortality in this statistic? I think you are.
I'm not. 1933-1939.
Can you link me those statistics? Most specifically '38 would be interesting to see, obviously things wouldn't have quite been fixed yet the instant Hitler stepped into office.
https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/76312/1/cesifo_wp800.pdf
Maybe they all died of sudden infant death syndrome?
See:
Sorry i'm not downloading anything linked here out of principle since i'm too tech illiterate to know what's safe or not.
I'll just take your word for it for now and look into it myself later.
I was referring to political stagnation rather than economic. The Soviet Union in the 80s was wealthier than it was in the 50s, it was industrialized and had far better technology despite the inefficiencies of a planned economy, yet it collapsed anyway.
I expect GroßGermania would follow a similar pattern, it would be more prosperous since it would include much of western Europe and permit private enterprise, however this does not necessarily cement a political system, if the world changes so must the system, even if the world changes for the better, and in our hypothetical scenario the Germans will drastically change the world. Unless the Nazi party adapts like the Chinese communist party did, in which case it would change beyond recognition and in effect it would be the same. Cults of personality like Mao and Hitler would likely go, their ideology would become diluted also.
I don't know if that's as easy to predict as you make it out to be.
China had to change the way it did because after WW2, america became the defacto hegemon of the world and even more so after the soviet union fell.
They got to plant their central banks in every nation on earth and fundamentally transformed both the financial and political landscape of the entire planet, it was necessary for china to play by america's rules to become a major player on the world stage.
Obviously if germany had won, america/globohomosexual wouldn't have attained such dominance over the world.
Could germany still have liberalized?
Possibly, of course.
But without the major driving force for liberalization in the world pushing them towards that, i don't think that can be considered a certainty at all.
>I just assume it would continue for another 1000 years like daddy hitler said it would!
crazy utopic cope
Might not happen until the 70s or even 90s. Communism is also unsustainable but took a long-ass time to collapse. The natural resources of Russia have a prolonging tendency for any regime that controls them, and Nazi Germany would probably be at least competent enough to make themselves self-sufficient in grain off the Ukrainian chernozem.
Anyway, I think Nazi victory would be great because it would destroy the dictatorship of Moscow forever. Many Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians would die, but eventually the regime would throw up its hands, declare the vast majority of them to be descended from Aryans (probably much earlier in Ukraine and Belarus than in Russia) and give them full citizenship in their reichskommisariats, where their children would get top-class German education and become europeanized. Eventually, like their new racial brethren in Germany, they'd start to favor social liberalism. In the end, you'll have coordinated, state-supported gay pride parades underneath the swastikas in Kiew, Germania, Riga, Taschkent, and Katharinenburg.
Based.
Germans would just absorb them, just like they did it with bavarians and western slavs.
The racial shit was just talk, doubt they even believed it themselves.
You OK, troony?
made a typo
Muh trannies
>less people in poverty
>life expentancy keeps on increasing
>the country they ran was able to become influential and prosperous without the need to get on a meme tier clay grab
he was pretty wrong and the only ones who disagree are tards who rot their brain by intentionally looking for other types of morons online to seethe over
>>less people in poverty
If you ignore that the gap between the poor and the rich only grows larger.
>>life expentancy keeps on increasing
And they don't have a younger generation that may replace them.
>>the country they ran was able to become influential and prosperous without the need to get on a meme tier clay grab
Germany has one of the worst birthrates in the world, they haven't produced any significant culture, be it in films, books, theater, music or even video games, in decades, their economy is a sandcastle and they haven't achieved any innovation in it, even in their stagnant automobile sector.
>If you ignore that the gap between the poor and the rich only grows larger.
What do I care how rich some homosexual is on paper? Its only a problem when they start pushing leftist, corporate crap on everybody.
this tbh
This. OP it doesn't matter that children grow up in broken families brainwashed to be homosexuals and whites are becoming a persecuted minority and dying off leaving the world to races that can't produce the same level of civilzation. We can play Nintendo Switch and poor people buy their clothes from Wal Mart made by Chinese children instead of having to make their own.
The world is just THINGS and STUFF and we have more STUFF and THINGS and thats all that matters.
European civilization is a product of material happenstance
Europe developed militarily because the geography of Europe prevented larger, unified empires from forming and becoming complacent. European states were constantly at war, and this pushed the development of military technologies and strategies at an enhanced rate.
Erosion of geologically recent mountains in Europe made for good agricultural soil, which allowed for dense populations and development of urban centers
The Mongols chose not to push into Europe
Homosexuality is congenital, there is no convincing a person to become a homosexual, just as there is no convincing a homosexual to become straight. conversion therapy was tried and it failed.
White people are not going to die out. Birth rates decline in countries where farms are mechanized and automated, populations are urban, people are educated and have career options, contraceptives are available, and costs of living are high
>Birth rates decline in countries where farms are mechanized and automated, populations are urban
Migrants are imported to remedy this and keep economic output up.
I don't disagree with you there
>White people are not going to die out
Then your first talking point to debunk it is saying that birth rates naturally decline, which we both agree on.
But importing migrants can absolutely cause massive demographic changes. Kosovo became majority Albanian because they moved there for work, Texas became Majority Anglo-American in the 1800s. Now Texas’s Mexican population went from 8% to 40% in a little over 100 years. Same exact thing is happening in California, 9% in 1960 now Hispanics are at 40%.
if the west stops impoverishing the rest of the world with IMF and World Bank loans that allow international corporations to syphon wealth and resources out of the global south under thread of getting couped by the CIA, leaving nations impoverished and saddled with lopsided economies and monocrop agricultural sectors, and allowing 9 million people to starve to death every year, perhaps fewer people would migrate
>it’s YOUR FAULT IMF israelites are exploiting the third world so YOU must accept half a million Somalians
Hard pass on that. You communist homosexuals have no appeal to any working class person. Do you think white working families being displaced by immigrants taking their jobs and taking over their neighborhoods care about your convoluted explanation?
who said anything about communism?
also, what people are willing to understand does not change what is true
There is literally no reason that because someone shows up at your border you have to take them in and give them jobs, housing, food, medical care, etc. Even if IMF israelites are personally running around African villages sodomizing children that’s literally not my problem.
>There is literally no reason that because someone shows up at your border you have to take them in and give them jobs, housing, food, medical care, etc.
Countries signed a treaty for that you moron. READ MORE
anon is going to reply that there's no reason those countries needed to sign such a treaty
There are no famines in Mexico. Many Hispanic migrants are morbidly obese. I was specifically bringing up examples of economic migrants, not refugees.
economic migrants migrate because they are poor and their countries are poor.
they are poor for the reasons I said
>fewer people would migrate if they wuz not starving n shieet
>Just ignore that the demographic that migrated the most to America in recent history is also from the most obese nation in the world (fatter than America) and their descendants are the most likely to be obese in America
Most of this is a distortion, but I can't be bothered to comb through the fine details.
The real issue is why the "woke" nuleft aren't helping us overthrow our governments, because we would unironically stop this. The obvious answer is you are part of the "globohomo" system, as much as you lie through your teeth right now, you know this. They tell you you will get to racially discriminate against white people for not being diverse and tax the middle class for your welfare and you delight in this, you like to see western civilization fall, the thing you have been brought up to hate, or perhaps you are white and just like flagellating yourself. You support them every step of the way and vote the straight D ticket from cradle to the grave like a good normy grubhub r*ddit soiboy. It is easier than questioning all this and you get to fit in with the other normies and live your tranquilized life.
>in b4 washington sent the navy to deal with the barbary pirates
because they were attacking American merchants, they weren't part of the Ottoman empire
>The real issue is why the "woke" nuleft aren't helping us overthrow our governments, because we would unironically stop this. The obvious answer is you are part of the "globohomo" system, as much as you lie through your teeth right now, you know this. They tell you you will get to racially discriminate against white people for not being diverse and tax the middle class for your welfare and you delight in this, you like to see western civilization fall, the thing you have been brought up to hate, or perhaps you are white and just like flagellating yourself. You support them every step of the way and vote the straight D ticket from cradle to the grave like a good normy grubhub r*ddit soiboy. It is easier than questioning all this and you get to fit in with the other normies and live your tranquilized life.
lmao what is this silly larp?
I'm not LARPing. The "far-right" in America are not the same as the neocons who advocated intervention in the middle east creating a flood of refugees.
You must be completely brainwashed if you find this far fetched.
>why the left doesn't help the alt-right overthrow western governments
because you'd probably kill a bunch of black people and israelites for the crime of being born
>everything is fine just keep consuming products
The rise in the amount of self identifying homosexuals since its legalization and the constant pushing of homosexual imagery from a young age implies it is not congenital, unless you're going to try to convince me that 10% of the population was always gay and just faking it. Homosexuality makes no logical sense as anything but a perversion, and you can stop being homosexual you literally just have to stop sucking dicks which apparently you can't.
I'm not even addressing your other points because they're literally just "don't believe your lying eyes".
studies on the prevalence of homosexuality vary widely in their findings, because in reality homosexuality and heterosexuality are two ends of a spectrum, and people are distributed across that spectrum
>everyones a little gay its a SPECTRUM!
Like I said, its a perversion, homosexuality literally doesn't exist, its just men doing gay shit. Some men really like the gay shit and get sucked into it others might get their dick sucked at boarding school them move on. There is no such thing as a "homosexual", the purpose of sex is reproduction, using another man's anus to jerk off is not sex, it's simply to get your cummies. Some women prefer giving blowjobs, which is likewise a perversion and not sex, but we don't try to craft it as a "sexuality".
The promotion of homosexuality is leading to more kids trying homosexual acts that otherwise wouldn't, some fall into the lifestyle and start identifying by how they get their cummies and most just move on and pursue normal sexual relationships. Either way its destructive behavior and should be discouraged the same as drug use. Shooting heroin once won't ruin your life, but if you really like it and get into it as a lifestyle it will.
I doubt that, but there is no aftercare for recovering homosexuals because of social shaming primarily by homosexuals themselves. If there was an AA or something similar for homosexuals a lot more would stay on the pussy wagon. People that just go to rehab and change nothing about their lives usually end up back on drugs, the same is likely true for homosexuals who sought recovery.
I have literally zero desire to suck wiener.
Smoke meth and watch sissy hypno and eventually you will. That’s basically what children are subjected to.
Yes, children watch sissy porn and get high on meth instead of studying.
High school's cucked appeals on diacouraging drugs sound more convincing than this.
Tell me, are there things such as fetish or not? And what does sissy hypno classify as, gay fetish. Earlier homos were supressed because they aren't accepted into society. Tell me, would you rather keep your Identity secret if it weren't accepted in an enviroment or would you openly display it and risk getting lynched?
"But people openly diplay it in the west now" yeah because they are more tolerant as compared to then.
"Then why still advocate for it", because hate crimes still exist against them. Some idiot dies every 3 times per 1000 people in a country now than as compared 50yrs back where the moron dies 50 times per 1000 people. Do you let that slide or do you want better law enforcement and betterment of society?
Lmao literal strawmanning with quotations and everything.
Homosexuality is a fetish, there is no such thing as sexual orientation.
different anon, but you're an idiot
He is right. Ancient Greeks had homosexual sex, but they had no concept of identifying as gay, lesbian, etc. The whole idea of sexual orientation is a subversive fad pushed by israelites.
Besides, how empty do you need to be to base your identity on the fact that you like sucking wieners? That's just pathetic.
>He is right. Ancient Greeks had homosexual sex, but they had no concept of identifying as gay, lesbian, etc
you're actually right about this, but then you started on some dumb shit about israelites.
Modern gay identity arose out of homosexuality being deemed a mental illness in the 19th century, along with the rise of underground gay sub-culture.
If gay sex wasn't stigmatised as a sin and something that makes someone mentally ill then gay identity probably never would have emerged, since they would just be dudes that like to have sex with men who wouldn't have to hide it
Well, they certainly were involved in making 'sexual orientation' mainstream.
Sex has one purpose, reproduction. Any sex that is not penis in vegana is not a base biological urge but a perversion or fetish. I like getting my dick sucked but I’m not a blowjobsexual.
nothing has any purpose, except the purpose we choose to ascribe to it. perhaps sex can have multiple purposes. perhaps some people engage in sex in order to experience physical and emotional intimacy with someone they love and are sexually attracted to.
people believe lots of different religions, and those religions generally contradict each other on a lot of things, but no evidence points to any one religion being more true than any other
evolution is just a process that occurs, like waves breaking on a beach. it does not tell us what our lives mean.
i don't know you, you're just a stranger on IQfy, but it really, really seems to me like you're just bisexual and in the closet
>sissy hypno
The fact that I only know what this even is because of RW memes is part of the problem. This is a fetish, primarily a western fetish, and one of its biggest homes is red boards on chan sites.
>the purpose of sex is reproduction
If that was the case, then humans would have heating cycles like countless other species. But we don't, humans like to have sex on any given day, on any given moment.
>conversion therapy failed
Most people who go to rehab get back on drugs too. I guess we should just stop trying to help them.
the success rate of conversion therapy is 0
rehab works sometimes
>success rate of conversion therapy is 0
Source?
>>less people in poverty
>>life expentancy keeps on increasing
>>the country they ran was able to become influential and prosperous without the need to get on a meme tier clay grab
at best maybe 1 of these 3 things is true though and that is questionable
>sink into eternal darkness
no "eternal" means forever; regardless of what you think about the world today it isn't going to stay like this forever
>fall into a dull and primitive state
no technology has improved considerably since 1945
>Jews to win this war
Jews did not win WW2; the USSR, America, and Britain did, they were liberated but that was because of Allied soldiers and not their own efforts
>no "eternal" means forever; regardless of what you think about the world today it isn't going to stay like this forever
Once nonwhites gain a powerful enough foothold in western countries and straight up take over ones like America and Canada, it's over. Legal immigrants by the millions will not be deported and they will vote to keep in liberal parties who created and sustain this world. Not saying the conservatives would fix it all but there's at least a chance to begin to reverse things with them.
on top of this shit
, the west also created ISIS.
waves of refugees are the west's fault. the west in turn has the power to stop doing the things that cause waves of refugees to show up
this would make everyone happy except a few rich people. it'd make you happy, and it'd make the people of the world happy.
Nah, I honestly just think these people are too low IQ to function in modern society. Everything else is just a cope. If everyone accepted the American world order the world would've been in a much better place.
It's not like the shithole that is Africa was ever rich or historically important.
Even if nonwhites are stupid, a position I don't accept, that does not explain it.
First of all, even white supremacists generally acknowledge some bell curve of intelligence, meaning there are going to be some intelligent, capable people in any nation who are capable of running the place.
Second, when you have resources and autonomy, and western states aren't choosing psychopathic yes-men to head your government, running a functioning society is not that hard.
The global south is a mess because we made a mess. For various historical and material reasons, europe developed militarily ahead of the rest of the world during the late medieval and early modern period, and it allowed us to colonize nearly everyone.
Also, Africa has poor soil for agriculture, and today is dependent on nitrogen fertilizers that are imported at a massive markup. Historically, Africa has had low population densities and limited urbanization.
In many regions, Africans continued to live in tribes. Intertribal conflict and enslavement of war prisoners is characteristic of tribal life in general, tribes around the world have done this in history. Even white tribes in Europe did this.
African societies were also more isolated from the rest of the world than societies in the eurasian continent were, meaning there was less cross-pollination of ideas and technology.
Intertribal conflict and enslavement of prisoners of war was typical of tribal life around the world.
Also, genetically, Africa is extremely diverse. I find it unlikely that the entire continent is stupid. If the entire continent is a certain way, we should look at material factors that have affected the entire continent.
repeated a line, i'm getting tired
The world would’ve been better off if Arabs, Whites, and Sephardis never bothered Africans. They could’ve kept living in their mudhuts while everyone else got shit done. The Saharan desert was literally put there by God to be a natural barrier.
I think educated Africans would agree. The ones whose parents weren't enriched by western meddling, anyway.
>They could’ve kept living in their mudhuts while everyone else got shit done.
Africa was trading with the globe for literal ages anon.
>The Saharan desert was literally put there by God to be a natural barrier.
Some God that is lmao.
Mali’s greatest architectural achievement was a mud mosque. And I never even said that Africans never traded with anybody, I said that everyone should’ve embargoed them had they had the hindsight.
ethiopians, swahilis, zimbaweans, and somalis built stone castles
Swahili isn’t a race. It’s a language, that has Arabic roots. Those “Swahili” castles were slave trading outposts.
Horners fricked themselves up because they embraced communism.
Even if they didn't go Red the shift of trade further East and lack of allies would have hurt it and in the case of Haile Selassie he often quashed dissent.
>somalis
LOL no
They were fricked up for long time, they had varies tribes with competing religious beliefs, Ethiopia would still been a shithole even with it's monarchy intact, hell zoomalia is worse despite being the more homogensis of the entire group. Their clan infighting and religion and other factors prove that you can have one tribe with the same culture and beliefs and still frick up more with tribalism. They're doomed people.
>Mali’s greatest architectural achievement was a mud mosque
No it's not that Djenne mosque was made way way after the Mali empire moron.
>I said that everyone should’ve embargoed them had they had the hindsight.
People like money and having more trade. The type of guys who are picky about who they trade with NEVER went far.
>It’s a language, that has Arabic roots
And it's Bantu language form the ground up with Arabic loan words among many many others like English and German.
>Those “Swahili” castles were slave trading outposts.
Nope. Many of those castles people lived and worked in them.
>Many of those castles people lived and worked in them.
What the frick do you think people do at outposts?
and they didn't do slave trading as their sole thing. Many Coastal Swahili architecture was also for mosques.
>I even said that it was a mistake.
Expansion of trade is always a good thing. You either expand markets or fall behind.
And who taught them how to build Mosques?
Their architectural styles are based off previous local styles as well as other finances just like all religious buildings typically
No wonder they look like shit, lmao
>No wonder they look like shit, lmao
A lot of people like it. Several Swahili areas have Heritage status
UNESCO considers patches of grass that Australian Abbos lived in at one point to be cultural heritage sites, doesn’t mean anything.
Also, notice how everyone you mentioned had contact with outsiders, almost as if that is something that I acknowledged happening. I even said that it was a mistake.
>All these paragraphs and words just so that he can cope with Africans not being able to make Wakanda™ irl
Absolutely pathetic, consider moving into a low income zone, i cant wait for you to be robbed by a pack of wild nigs
Lol what?
didn't hitler eliminate the strasserites and side with big business? aren't most rich elites today white christians and atheists with non-israeli backgrounds? therefore, didn't hitler essentially side with the same people who have made the world what it is today - rich white business owners who lord over the lives of white working class wage slaves? aren't a lot of white nationalists today landlords and business owners who make their money ripping off other white people? isn't white nationalism basically just a way to deflect white working class rage away from rich people and toward israelites?
>Eternal darkness
That means forever. You're FRICKED
It's getting there, it's just that most of the anons in this thread are either outright ignorant while the rest are fervently denying it out of a instinctive and primitive fear fear, as the little black spot hiding in the deepest residues of their soul which faintly whispered; "He was right!"
I thought OPs picrel was Jerry Seinfeld for a moment. I am disappoint.
>I thought OPs picrel was Jerry Seinfeld for a moment. I am disappoint.
I thought it was Gilbert Gottfried
This thread has had a surprising amount of based and reasonable posts, would've expected more kvetching.
This, IQfy needs a leftoid cleasing asap
nazis had an over-racialized ideology inadequate for comprehending reality.
Hitler was a pragmatist. He called everyone from Japanese to Sioux honorary Aryans.
only if they were far away
>Only if they were far away
Well that's obviously untrue. For someone who apparently harbours some blanket universal hatred for everything Slavic, he was surely a pragmatist when it came to dealing with literally any Slavic nation that was willing to toe the German line.
unless he wanted their land to grow germans on
That doesn't really detract from what I said does it? The other anon claimed Hitler was a pragmatist. You responded with the claim that he was only a pragmatist towards people far away (I assume by this you mean far away from Germany/Europe). My response was that Hitler was pragmatic and malleable with his beliefs when it came to accommodating some of his Slavic neighbours, therefore, he was indeed pragmatic towards not just people who were 'far away' but right next door. Your statement, 'unless he wanted their land to grow Germans on', while true (to a point) doesn't really have anything to do with what we were previously talking about.
I say nazi ideology is over-racialized
one of you says hitler was a pragmatist, presumably to argue against me
I point out that hitler calling people "honorary aryans" was shallow and meant nothing.
You say, "what about the slavs he didn't plan to eliminate to make room for germans?"
I say you have answered your own question
What is your definition of over-racialized and how was it too inadequate for reality when Hitler would ally with other Race’s nations all the time.
For one, believing everything results from racial character leaves a person ill-equipped to understand the causal relationships that shape human behavior.
>I point out that Hitler calling people 'honorary Aryans' was shallow and meant nothing.
No, your exact statement was 'only if they were far away' which implies that Hitler was only pragmatic towards peoples too far away from his immediate sphere of interest to matter all that much. I pointed out that that wasn't so which, objectively, I think we can agree on since there existed real-life examples of Nazism's 'over-racialized' ideology as you put it being ammended to match geopolitical and military-strategic realities. In fact, I'd say the very fact that Hitler and Nazism as a whole was so willing to flip-flop around on how certain peoples were perceived immediately suggests some form of pragmatism as opposed to some ironclad, inflexible, absolute racial ideology that leaves no room for compromise. Once again, the fact that Hitler was unwilling to act pragmatic with some types of people (and again, even that was not absolute, it just wasn't as much as others) does not detract from the established fact that there were many more instances where he was indeed pragmatic with groups that would otherwise be considered impossible to even consider accomodating if Nazism really was the ironclad, unbendable over-racialized ideology you are presenting it as.
i said "only if they were far away"
you said "what about the slavs"
i said "only the ones he didn't want to get rid of to make room for germans"
i'm being entirely consistent
>only the ones he didn't want to get rid of to make room for germans
Then how does that prove that his racial autism was completely incompatible with reality?
this whole thing is a tangent
foreign policy is a means to an end
ideology is a way of understanding the world
If the rules of ideology can be bent then why is it too incompatible with reality?
My last comment already answers this
also, I said "incompatible with understanding reality" didn't I?
>nazis had an over-racialized ideology inadequate for comprehending reality.
backtracking
backtracking by reminding you what I said, which was an expression of what I believe?
Ideology is a way of giving a meta-entity part of your brainpower for no fricking reason
Literally the only bad thing Hitler ever said about Slavs was a part of Mein Kampf where he talks about the Germanic element being the leadership element of Slavic states, which is objectively true. i.e Varangians and Boyars
Well that's not exactly true. Just as an example he once claimed that after witnessing the moustaches of Czechs that he could see the Mongol blood in them (I don't know if you consider that a bad thing though, Hitler probably meant it as a derogatory statement) and in general Hitler was known for his dislike of Czechs since a young age (though he did have some good things to say about them too, if even off-handedly). But even if wasn't always going on about them, I consider it unlikely that he didn't hold (even subconciously) the prevailing attitude of most Germans of his time that perceived the Slavs (for the most part) as a somewhat lesser peasant people.
I absolutely believe he held that opinion which would be reflected in his writings about Germans forming the core of Slavic states, that doesn't imply he wanted to starve them all to death.
>That doesn't imply he wanted to starve them all to death
Well I wouldn't claim such a thing anyhow. That being said, the Germans certainly were prepared to starve people as part of the Hunger Plan if it meant relieving their own population, though I recognize that idea as more of an ad-hoc countermeasure to avoid starvation in Germany (which was a major contributing factor to the collapse of the homefront in WWI) and not as some master strategy that would have been implemented until every Slav in Eastern Europe was dead.
>Hungarians
>Finns
>He called Muslims closer to Germans then the French.
>I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood
Kind of, but the Nazis winning would be even worse. Millions of dead, even more primitive culture, probably constant warfare in the East as Slavs wouldn't happily accept genocide/deportations/enslavement.
Humanity would’ve been on Mars by now. Von Braun would’ve gotten those plans of his approved and funded.
Nah. There will be Slavic terrorism. Poles already started putting bombs in German restaurants late in the war.
What does that have to do with a Space Program?
A lot, there wouldn't be any peace in Europe and with massive insurection in the East the Germans wouldn't even think about starting a space program.
Americans were dealing with Vietnam. There were over 500,000 US troops deployed during the moon landing.
Goebbels was right about nothing. Even his physical fricking appearance is just wrong.
Partially.
EARTH will fall into eternal darkness, but any potential offworld colony has the opportunity to escape their grasp, with frontier pragmatism being an excellent counter to any attempted subversion. This is why the hot new trend for the American Left is to rage against private spaceflight endeavors.
He looks Peruvian.
His nose isn’t big enough.
No, G*rms are not human.
t. israelite
t. loser
Ok israelite.
yeah because you're a loser.
He got trapped into his own memes.
Goebbels was insane, but he was correct in this particular statement. But it wouldn't have been much different had the Third Reich won. A grim world would have existed either way. Marxism and globalist liberalism wouldn't experience their post-war growth, but on the other hand the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe would have paid a heavy price.
That picture is one of the most delusional things I have ever seen.
Why are american christians, a group of people that is not particularly moral, so prone to moral panic?
Bro, that’s just a picture of San Francisco.
>That picture is one of the most delusional things I have ever seen.
Not American not Christian lmao
That's just how most of the world sees the West
israelite go back in the oven already
Shut up loser, only war winners are allowed to talk.
upper middle class white nationalists have a few categories of anti-communist arguments
1) associating it with israeliness, where israelites are ironically a stand-in for capitalists
2) associating it with atheism – unless the white nationalist is an atheist themself
3) arguing that communism upturns social hierarchies and prevents the deserving from rising to the top. here social hierarchies and economic hierarchies are equated for no reason.
libs add a few more
1) death toll, usually derived from the black book of communism, which historians do not consider credible
2) authoritarianism, which is again overstated for communist nations and understated for corporate liberal democracies
3) poverty of small socialist nations like cuba and venezuela, which usually results from severe and prolonged embargoes
3) lack of markets and market innovation – a semi-valid criticism, but
––(a) liberal democracies go too far in the other direction
––(b) capitalist innovations often contribute nothing to society and simply waste human labor and resources
––(c) market socialism can exist, where democratic worker co-ops operate in decentralized market
––(d) many inventions arise from university research, or from semi-autonomous private labs, e.g., Bell Labs
>liberal democracies go too far in the other direction
Why would you think pasting this would make sense in a national socialist thread?
actually didn't paste it, wrote it here
just wrote the lib part on a whim because there are libs on this board too
evolution is a process that occurs
it does not give purpose to anything
we can say sex evolved for reproduction, but "the purpose of sex is reproduction" is a religious statement not an evolutionary one
cross out "not an evolutionary one" and write "not an objective statement about human life"
I'm sure no israelite has tampered with that document.
what about it is unrealistic
nazis viewed israelites as mortal enemies, right? born evil, right?
no different from the malaise an abattoir worker would feel, right? just a bit more intense
you yourself probably want to exterminate all israelites. why are you different from the original nazis?
you're all for murdering some random dentist in the suburbs, right?
I don't want to exterminate israelites. Don't make arbitrary assumption as if you knew anything about me. If they stopped meddling with our affairs and moved back to the middle east or wherever I wouldn't care about them. I dislike the fact that they are actively harming whites which is perfectly legitimate as they have no right to do so.
Rich narcissists are harming whites. Some are israelites, most are not. The majority are white christians, or white atheists with christian backgrounds.
Jews overwhelmingly control the media and banking which are the key levers of powers in the Western capitalist democracies. Yes, some gentiles do end up rich and influential but those are forced to conform to the prevailing israeli spirit. If they don't, pressure is applied on them. Henry Ford is a good example of that. If you read the bible and the talmud you realize that considering themselves as a special, 'chosen' people, disparaging gentiles as cattle to be exploited by usury and other tricks, being hostile to gentiles, etc. are key components of their culture. Now look around you. Is that very spirit not the one of the elites? Why would whites genocide themselves through mass migration? The israelites themselves won't disappear as they avoid miscegenation (which is strongly discouraged by their religion).
Prevailing israeli spirit?
Open any thread on IQfy where landlords are present, and you can see how the psyche of a person is distorted when they start living off the labor of others.
Being rich is what makes rich people think and act how they do.
jews and landlords are both based.
https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
>Paper money
Who do you think owns the central banks that print the money?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve
DAH JOOOOOOOS
t. NPC
for recognizing that israelites are a minority of rich people and rich people are narcissists in general regardless of their religion, skin color, and cultural background?
No, for knee-jerking into a propaganda trope without seeing the big picture or addressing the point.
that is the big picture
Why would a gay kid choose to be gay back when that was signing up for a lifetime of suffering?
No.
Things would look superficially different If the Nazis won, the reality of day to day life for the average person would be identical though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_photographs
Those israelites are emancipated. In other word they died of malnutrition and disease (probably typhus). Not fricking gas chambers. If israelites were systematically gased why were there survivors? Why did the dead people in pictures almost always look malnourished? It takes a lot of time to become malnourished. Why would the Germans bother keeping them for so long if they just planned to exterminate them. The whole narrative makes no sense.
>why were there survivors?
In some camps there weren't. Sobibor only had 58 survivors, etc.
>why did they look malnourished
not all were killed immediately, some were slave labor forced to make products
>If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.
-Dr. Joseph Goebbels
>If you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.
-Dr. Joseph Goebbels
>Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will.
-Dr. Joseph Goebbels
Imagine getting played by a dead man.
He was talking about israelites.
sweet cope. you will never have a real ethnostate.
And you will never be a woman
Excellent. Now how do you feel about never having a real ethnostate?
Not the anon you are sperging with, but my country is literally 95% white, i bet that really triggers you alot huh trannie?
Not for long, goyim
>white
and what variety of med/slav/germanic/anglo mutts are they?
>N...no europeans are not white o..ok?!
Can you please stfu and go back to leftypol already? Also breathing through your mouth is bad
You're just a fricking mutt. There's a reason you only say "my country." Prove what "white" land you're in and I'll roast you.
Why? You'll just claim that
>insert random euro country
isn't white because the idea of white people being the majority in a given area probably gives you an aneurism
lmao. pathetic.
>no arguments
Lmao, 41% yourself already
Give me something to argue with, "white" man.
Holy shit your actually moronic, kek.
Stop taking hormone blockers
My actually moronic? I don't have an "actually moronic" I don't know what you mean.
The white man marches on.
>ESL Black person
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
There's no way you're this dumb. Wait, you're a nazi. Nevermind.
>t.
>I'll roast you.
Hello, zoomer. Are you gonna diss us frfr worldstar style no cap.
>roast is zoomer term.
hello boomer.
Okay, now it's obvious that you're a zoomer.
Good point.
please don't go in a loop, you're not changing each others' minds or learning anything, you're just responding out of fear that you'll be perceived to have lost the argument if you stop first
>losing an argument
>to a fricking nazi
lmao. i never started this to "win." i'm laughing at him.
Kek, stfu homosexual
no
Doesn't the existence of multiple contradictory religions put a strain on people's beliefs and lead to discomfort, which, combined with the lack of logical arguments and evidence for one religion over another, results in a feeling of persecution?
no