>Goethe did not understand the Greeks.
Nietzsche was right. Imagine reading Werther or Faust Part 2 and thinking this man was on the same level as the Greek poets. A great writer, sure, but way too much of a simp at heart.
>Goethe did not understand the Greeks.
>t. filtered
Sadly, many such cases.
Goethe made fantastic scientific contributions outside of his literary works, and his works translated by Rudolph Steiner layed the groundwork for Anthroposophy. He was an OG Freemason, for whatever that's worth. Don't judge him by his earliest works - even Goethe cringed at his first success. I admire Neitzsche greatly too, but a lot of his feelings of people come from his disappointment toward people he otherwise admired IMO. I could be wrong.
None of that means he understood the Greeks.
>Rudolph Steiner
>Anthroposophy
not a positive contribution. Anthroposophy is astrology tier pseudoscience
The fact that he was a Freemason makes me respect him less.
Don't you people think it's a little gay and pathetic to worship people who lived centuries ago in a different cultural landscape?
Understanding is not the same as worshiping
no?
If you don't recognize that 'The Metamorphosis of Plants' is grand work of literature then you should give up trying to understand ideas.
Nietzsche was a homosexual. Just look at his face there. Goethe had a patrician demeanor and outlooks and the Greeks would have accepted him quicker than the crippled nerdy larper neetjew
>muh effeminate patrician demeanor
It's not about intellect, it's about attitude. Greeks were men. They didn't put pussy on a pedestal like Goethe did.
Trust me, no one in your offline life thinks you are manly
My girlfriend does when I frick her brains out.
That’s freakin EPIC!!! a GIRLFRIEND?! And you have SEX with her???!! WOAH
Seethe
moronic Nietzschean misunderstands Nietzsche's critique and doesn't know he worshipped him.
>moronic Nietzschean misunderstands Nietzsche's critique and doesn't know he worshipped him.
You homosexuals are risible, nobody understands Niet, accept it
Nietzsche's opinion of Goethe is incredibly basic and obvious. If you can't understand it then you're just moronic, it's nothing to do with Nietzsche's often mysterious statements.
I like the Greeks. But this worship of them is as noxious as Christianity or whatever religion you have.
They thought differently. That’s their appeal. They weren’t just some pinnacle that we’re never loving up to. In many ways, in most way, modern people exceed them. Did you expect all the citizens of Athens to possess some kind of university professor level intellect? Not a chance.
This world is set up to produce stupid worker drones that do what they’re told. Even the most worshipful of the Greeks or philosophy in general, these rightwing trad LARPers, defend the system that produces such an empty cultureless world
You are both so unbelievably stupid. Just have a nice day already.
>loving up to
Living. Geez.
Look, buddy. I don’t care if you like the girls or the boys. You want to live more passionately. Greeks and Goethe both did.
Just say something worth the captcha solve.
Stupid blowjack poster.
>You want to live more passionately. Greeks and Goethe both did.
Too reductionist. They both "lived passionately" but their output was different. Goethe took an interest in the sciences and arts but he lacked the warlike and intoxicating masculinity that the Greeks imbued in their art and religion.
So you worship homosexual psycho killer mode. The worst aspect
What's "homosexual psycho killer mode" about Hesiod, Homer, Archilochus, or Aeschylus you woman-brained nerd?
They have goddesses too.
If you can’t enjoy much more from the Greeks than a boost to your maskulinity, have at it.
Their goddesses aren't objects of simp desire, they're depictions of primordial forces within the human psyche.
Ya
Oh yeah Goethe never depicts that, and the Greeks never depicted romance...
Romance doesn't have to reek of simphood like Werther does and the end of Faust makes it clear that Goethe never fully overcame that in himself. The Greeks would never write such things.
Tard
Write a German classic yourself.
>Just say something worth the captcha solve.
If you weren't as stupid as they are you would see them for what they are, two imbeciles arguing over things they're both wrong about in different ways.
I disliked Faust pt2... reminded me of a Dr who episode if it had satanic undertones