Man... remember Google before Android and Chrome?
How did they go from one of the most well liked and convenient corps to to pure shit so fast? 2008 came and now it's nothing but "Be Evil", only that just means "be shit" now.
It's like the GFC hit and everything became shit after it.
Often people talk about this with 9/11 being an impact with corps, but the GFC really did frick everything up way more.
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jeets and israelites did it, with women in a supporting role
But a literal israelite made Google?
Though he's changed as a person since 2008. Something must have perturbed him hard.
Maybe he discovered IQfy?
The founders where israeli TOUGH
The real problem was the company bloating up with managers and other non-technical staff with no clear vision, despite their early success coming from having technically superior products
>other non-technical staff with no clear vision
Much worse is a very clear vision that has nothing at all to do with making a genuinely better project. The glimmer in their eyes as they smile, talking about their boneheaded notions while they wave away the knowledge of people who actually understand things as "details" is incredibly frustrating.
Yeah it's better with a tiny management, if not one manager and then a largely non-management workforce.
The problem is, people are only human. You get more and more liabilities on the shoulders of that one person over time. That leads to issues with actually doing things. Sometimes they hesitate due to legalities. Sometimes they simply get over-extended and lost, so they begin to half ass small but important "details".
Old Boeing vs New Boeing is the prime example. When the company was engineer focused and led, it was great. The extent to which non-technical people are given real decision making power about the core business is when it all starts to fall apart. Which isn't to say every techie is executive material, but finding the ones who are is really mission-critical.
capitalism destroys everything
there's plenty of white male capitalists
It's not even capitalism alone. You see large non capitalist organisations or communities have the same problem.
It's simple a problem of centralisation and how you administer that centralised management structure.
Eventually organisations become too big for BOTH the head admin and all the other employees to manage and coordinate.
Think of it like a paddle boat, each employee with an oar.
There comes a point of negligible return for adding a new oarsman.
In fact, the ship becomes harder and harder to manoeuvre the larger it becomes and the more oarsmen you have on board.
Think about directions given to oarsmen. It becomes harder and harder to give messages to them the larger the boat and crew are.
Our entire planet is having this problem right now and is collapsing under the weight of it's population and competing interests.
>tfw just learned about Superfest glass
Really makes you think how early industrial conglomerates were able to manage thousands of employees with no computers
Try lawyers in the 1800s.
I don't even.
I struggled with Lexus Nexis in the modern age, how the frick did they manage to coordinate legislation and cases with literally nothing but book indexes in a literal library of case files with likely thousands of cases going on around them at the same time.
>need a case reference
>woops someone is currently using that, need to book it for another time
Must have been pure hell. In the 1700s and 1600s it was far more manageable. In the 1800s it was pure hell as populations were exploding and legislation was practically modern but that period (there is still a significant amount of law from that period even today).
Combine that with business admin and it's just... how? How did they do it?
I mean it's kinda bad today with computer systems and ridiculous rabbit holes of standards, but I can do that from my chair right now (if I have enough cash or "other sources").
Try doing that in a world where you had no telegram (until 1850s) or telephone (1880s) and mere pageboys or clerks to get information, if you were rich enough (and not all were so they physically collected information themselves or accrued it through uni lectures).
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When chrome first came out it was so fricking awesome. Google had so many good news products during their good years. Maps, gmail, reader, image search and they were innovating and iterating so far in all levels.
Same, I had both Chrome and Firefox literally because I liked using both.
I was kinda young and did weird shit like that.
Using modern Chrome (especially) and Firefox is ... depressing.
Using internet 2.0 is depressing and soulless.
I feel like any company that goes public goes into a slow descent into a trash fire, and googles been public since 2004
In burgerville it is against the law for a publicly traded company to prioritize its customers above its shareholders. If they can find value by screwing their customers they are OBLIGATED to do so.
It's more they become so massive that they become hard to centralise and contain things to an original head admin.
That and the public situation means interests outside of Google become involved and that means potentially shareholders with hidden conflicts of interest.
Microsoft had this issue, it fricked up Gates' head. Now even Valve are having this issue (though I don't think Gabe is done considering he knew this problem would one day come given he left microsoft before it became too big to maintain).
It's simply the management of large numbers of people with individual interests and jobs at the firm. Once you simplify things to core goals and they take more and more precedence over individual decisions - you get worse and worse products. It's not just the centralisation, it's how individual head admins conduct their administration.
It becomes like spinning plates and the plates get harder to keep spinning the more shit you put on them and the larger they are.
Run by people who knew and loved the tech vs. MBAs and npcs coming in to frick it all up. Plus large amounts of money starting to float around. There is no more definitive path to destruction. On top of which the high social capital business sociopaths can run circles around the techies and their stupid, stupid ideas become policy. Simple as.
Google died when they bought doubleclick. Google is now doubleclick.
The excitement, the trust, the creativity, the interesting projects, fun games within every bit of the things, the ideology, the believes.
Everythings has just gone... I was little back then but knew one things "Google is leading the industries which world has never seen before". And for reason I just feel I missed a chance the golden age of Internet where all these cool things were happeing.
I guess this is how things works.
It was still good until 2016ish, but not like 2001 internet where most image searches still had the chance of being nudity, potentially cp (holy frick looking up "small breasts" in 2009 even was a minefield).
I just realised I was born in the last era before phones became universal globally.
I had no idea how few 3rd worlders had any connection to a phone in the 90s.
So I take it back, people had it worse in the 20ths century, not 19th.
I just assumed everyone had landline after the 1900s or at least the 50s, or that they had at least some form of phone connection (from memory apartments used to have a phone at the entry of buildings for all the residence users to use - apparently not even this happened for many people until the 90s).
I guess that was because by 1998 everyone around me had a landline or some form of payphone access and because SEA, which I saw in the early 00s, had basic access too like that (and SEA to me was a 3rd world area back then, though it rapidly industrialised in the 00s - it had open sewers on the streets in most places and many people still wore dirty clothes with holes in them. Amazing how that was not really a common thing by like 2008).