Greatest books on Roman/Byzantine Empire, history and also how to bring it back? Thinking of writing my own essays on this great nation and the great emperers (Aurelius) that ruled it. But wonder if there is already works on this subject that can guide me
"Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one." - Marcus Aurelius
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I am 28
Gibson is correct on the evil of Christianity, it causes decedence. But I am not only looking for history (preferable about when Rome was great not weak) but also books on how to bring the empire back. Also any books on fall of Constantinople
"He that sinneth, sinneth unto himself" - Marcus Aurelius
Christianity teaches self-sacrifice for metaphysical values/reasons. Everything a stoic was arguing for had reason and purpose in Christianity. There's a reason everyone converted. It literally solved all of the philosophical and existential problems of Rome.
This is not true. Christianity encourages waste of resources (wine and gold) on its religion while greek philosophies encourage calm and peace and power. I have received this from the Meditiations, not so from gospels which include Jesus spending lots of funds on oils.
" Be like a rocky promontory against which the restless surf continually pounds; it stands fast while the churning sea is lulled to sleep at its feet." - Marcus Aurelius
When did Jesus spend lots of funds on oils?
Think about this, you get rid of all worldly posessions and drives, as Christ commands us to, then what do you have left? Nothing unless you accept there are things greater than the world.
There's way more in Christianity than just you even to get rid of things. By that we get all and gain all. You have a stronger epistemology by it too. It's easier to accept and applies towards everything.
>Gibson is correct on the evil of Christianity, it causes decedence.
This is why western Europe was a cultural and economic powerhouse until atheism became widespread in the 20th century.
Europe only became the true masters of the world after they rediscover Romans and Greeks in renaissance. Thus the great divergance. Decadence and evangelical christianity became widespread in 20th century, also the ending of teaching roman and greek philosophy in schools.
" Look well into thyself; there is a source of strength which will always spring up if thou wilt always look." - Marcus Aurelius
If all that's true then why did the roman empire convert and then fall? Proximity to the Roman empire is hardly a measurement of success. Universities succeeded academies. There was a lot of great things about Rome but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
You're 28 and using Breker in your post image as what, your aesthetic yardstick? Here's the thing: you've probably never seen a Breker in person, and you wouldn't even be able to describe a Breker such that I could convincingly distinguish between his work and whatever statue-of-the-week I encounter in my public travels
Breker was a great artist no one created sculptures good as him. But also he had a vision that he executed. This makes him one of a kind.
Constantine reveled in decadence and made Rome convert. If you look at east Germany they are all atheist. Thats because they were told to and they are to this day
"It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live." - Marcus Aurelius
You don't consider all of that shallow?
What book do you think instantiates the Roman Empire? For the West and a blueprint for any civilization you have the Bible.
I think it is fine. It explains everything I want to. but I am looking to read more and understand more. I was hoping for book suggestions. If a book created Rome it was the Odes by horace. Then Meditations
"Of an operation and of a purpose there is an ending, or of an action and of a purpose we say commonly, that it is at an end: from opinion also there is an absolute cessation, which is as it were the death of it." - Marcus Aurelius
I mean if it helps you then sure but if you're looking for the same direction with more bread and depth then you could follow what Rome did.
Julian the Apostate was a type of Aurelius. He wasn't suited at all to being an emperor. That and they allowed lead poisoning for centuries even though they knew it caused problems. You'd have to define specifically what you're looking for. Otherwise you get Edward Gibbons nonsense.
start with the Greeks
No one has suggested a book on how to bring the Roman Empire back. Surely there is one book some where. There are books on bringing Soviet Union back so why not something great
Ah yes, the Roman/Byzantine Empire, that one great nation.
>Breker
Every. Time.
It is the greatest civilization, all current countries are but ashes.
And breker is a beautiful artist
OP has to be 15 this shit is embarrassing
It's even more embarrassing if he's actually 28.
>Greatest books on Roman/Byzantine Empire, history and also how to bring it back?
settle down, Ignatius
I saved this thread as a pdf, only for my amusement. Only thing missing is fricking EVOlA HAH!