hang on to your buttholes
the 2020s gone be a wild AF ride.
>no human in our evolutionary history has ever been exposed to what's inside that pandora's crystal.
hang on to your buttholes the 2020s gone be a wild AF ride. >no human in our evolutionary history has ever been exposed to what's inside that p...
this is why scientists should be shunned and mocked and ridiculed. this is not a good idea. science is not a good idea.
>t. my ancestors opposed eyeglasses, the wheel and fire
So did yours because if any one of them reproduced their genes have percolated throughout the human population by now.
You're on the wrong board
>IFLS!!!
So any source, date, or something about your dumb ASS image?
Here you go, lad - 10.1130/G49957.1
>10.1130/G49957.1
same school as moot
Who?
You guys got your masks ready?
>no microorganism in that rock has ever been exposed to hundreds of millions of years of the evolutionary arms race between competing bacteria, phages, and animal immune systems
I think we'll be fine
Most likely but there's always the chance that we've overfit our immune systems to the complexity of current threats.
This, immune systems probably have a finite modek size. But on the other hand you have to take into account the fact that this ancient microorganism will be piss poor at making it in today's meta because it's not adapted at all.
God’s in His heaven, and all’s right in the world.
with organisms this old can it be reasonably expected for them to have completely different organelle? or in the very least - less optimized versions of what is seen in cells today?
>MAY MAY MAYAY
Can scientists take responsibility at least once and say YES or NO?
we literally just survived sars bred into aids, at this rate nothing can kill off humanity
Monkeypox will kill you before this gets to you.
assumptions made by science(TM)
>crystal is a perfectly closed system
>moreover, somehow they know it's 830 gorillion years old
They probably dated it by the layers of the ground they found it in.
>the ground is a perfectly closed system
On October 23, 2000, Fujimura and his team announced that they had anotherfinding at the Kamitakamori site near Tsukidate town. The finds were estimated tobe 570,000 years old.On November 5, 2000, the newspaper Mainichi Shimbun published pictures of Fujimura digging holes and burying the artifacts his team later found. The pictures had been taken one day before the finding was announced. Fujimuraadmitted his forgery in an interview with the newspaper. Fujimura confessed and apologized the same day in a press conference. He saidthat he had been "possessed by an uncontrollable urge".[1] He had planted theartifacts from his own collection in strata that would have indicated earlier dates. In Kamitakamori he had planted 61 of 65 artifacts, and had earlier planted all of the stonework in the Soshin Fudozaka site in Hokkaidō. He claimed that thesewere the only times he had planted artifacts.The Japanese Archaeological Association disaffiliated Fujimura from itsmembers. A special investigation team of the Association revealed that almost allthe artifacts which he had found were his fabrication.
>anotherfinding
>Fujimuraadmitted
>saidthat
apart from the fact that what you quote has no connection with the topic at hand, why can't you sanitize your Wikipedia quotes? I don't even expect you to correctly greentext.
What did you mean when you said that earth is not a perfectly closed system? That quote was to tell that they date things by the depth of the layer it was found in. Radiocarbon is a meme:
> Before Present (BP) years is a time scale used mainly in geology and other scientific disciplines to specify when events occurred in the past. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date of the age scale, reflecting the origin of practical radiocarbon dating in the 1950s. The abbreviation "BP" has alternatively been interpreted as "Before Physics";[1] that is, before nuclear weapons testing artificially altered the proportion of the carbon isotopes in the atmosphere, making dating after that time likely to be unreliable.[2][3]
Look buddy, the oldest verified tree is no older than 7,000 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_trees
Everything else in dating is wrong simply because they build it on models on top of models, that is, a house of cards
>the oldest verified tree is no older than 7,000 years
Is it why ~~*christians*~~ destroyed the sacred groves? Because those trees told their hisTORAis records to go frick themselves?
But then this madlads come along:
> Chemical Geology estimated that a glass sponge belonging to the species Monorhaphis chuni was about 11,000 years old. Other sponge species may be able to live even longer.
Go frick a horse larpagan
>sponge
Not a single individual, irrelevant as it is prone to model errors
So a christcuck you are. What are you even doing on this board?
> Not a single individual, irrelevant as it is prone to model errors
What isn't? Is your contradictory book flawless?
>What isn't?
Tree rings
>So a christcuck you are. What are you even doing on this board?
Yeah sorry buddy, sometimes I forget SCIENCE™ is a pagan religion
The layer itself was dated by radiometric methods. Not radiocarbon, obviously. Argon-argon.
Why do these idiots think all radiometric dating is C14, anyway? All the YECs talk about radiocarbon dating like we use it to date things older than a few thousand years
Because the pop-sci gays always say "radiocarbon analysis" I never heard of "radioargon analysis"
Mind educating us about how it is done and why do you think it tells what it tells? Why isn't argon method isn't influenced by nuclear explosions if it's also based upon radioactivity?
Radiometric dating is the term we use, it encompasses the use of all decay isotopes to get an age. Argon dating involves using the abundance of Ar40 in a rock sample relative to K40, its parent isotope. Similar principles apply as with radiocarbon but the half life is longer. Argon dating doesn't care about nukes (not that C14 necessarily does, IDK enough about it to say) because it's dating a closed system, as argon is too big to escape the target minerals' (feldspars and micas, mostly) crystal structure once they get below a certain temperature. Ar-Ar dating is some fancy shit that measures the same target ratio of K40/Ar40 but with only 1 sample required and more accuracy as a result. It's not as clean as U-Pb zircon dating but more widely usable because of the abundance of K in rocks.
>Radiometric dating is the term we use, it encompasses the use of all decay isotopes to get an age
Which is based on the flawed assumption that decay rates have been the same in the entire history. Moreover it relies on models on top of models instead of empirical evidence
>thing I don't like is flawed
Not an argument and you can't disprove the assertion that decay rates are universally constant.
>What did you mean when you said that earth is not a perfectly closed system?
never said that. the topic is a 850my old crystal.
not earth, ground:
They go through quiet some length to argue that the micro organisms are in primary fluid inclusions and therefore of the same age as the rock.
You can dismiss their arguments which would be acceptable as fluid inclusions identification is not straight forward.
Also they say that they are not sure yet that those micro organism s are still alive nor that they understand how did they managed to remain alive all this time.
Also
>Darwin's theory of evolution is not just a theory but fact
Evolution works fine in theory
It literally does
There is no fault in the logic
Why should it not be in operation in practice?
>Why should it not be in operation in practice?
Good, A Genghis Khan tier plague is required for rejuvenation of this stagnant stinking world.
And they would have no chance against anitbiotics
>no human in our evolutionary history has ever been exposed to what's inside that pandora's crystal
no chordate, even.
>830 million years old
no complex lifeform has been exposed to what's inside that crystal.
they smack it with a hammer and the piezo electric effect kills all the organisms
Great, "Crystal Pox" are next. Two weeks! Trust the science!
It was recently discovered that the UK's NIH paid the Wuhan lab to conduct research on their behalf. What were they researching? Monkeypox. So no need to worry about "Crystal Pox" unless this sucker is cracked open in Wuhan, the gateway to bioterrorist hell.
Alright let's take at face value: Everything said in that title is exactly true as stated, the crystal has been magically unchanged for 830 million years, it can be easily opened without altering it's contents and the microorganisms are perfectly alive with at least some form of low to none metabolism in a resistance form
So what? You know what's going to happen? They will die, fast. If oxygen doesn't get to them, the lack of specific nutrients as soon as water starts pouring back will, oh and they better do it in a perfectly sterlized and clean environment because that bacteria might not have got the memo about toxins in the enrionment that other bacteria might have left.
And even if somehow, they magically survive, so what? There are no garantees that you can grow them, in fact, taking into account how we can only put on petri dishes only a portion of all the possible bacteria a sample might have chances are that you will surely frick up the medium recipe and kill them or leave them inactive.
This doesn't mean that it's not interesting, but the only thing that we can expect is a protein and DNA analysis of the bacteria, that's it, hold off your breasts on this one.
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/geologists-to-open-830-million-year-old-crystal-containing-secrets-of-ancient-life-5268949.html
Nothing new. Just really well preserved.
oh look, another fake and gay sóyence canard to distract the plebs
Oh, and I forgot to mention this earlier but hysteria around this discovery is ridiculous. It's a chemoautotrophic Archaea, why in the world would that have any pathogenic potential? IQfy is basically run by the collective amygdalas of thousands of morons so not exactly surprising but w/e.