Overrepresented amongst mercenary companies in most of the wars of Europe. You can find them fighting in some of the wars of Eastern Europe
Overrepresented as a military and naval presence in the British Empire and United States. Look up the great battles the British fought in Africa or its naval expeditions across much of the world and notice the sheer amount of Welsh, Scottish and Irish names. Look at the United States military history and see a pattern of the Scots-Irish dominating military roles as generals, commanders and a bulk of the warrior caste
Sure but that wasn't the question, so it's silly to move goalposts.
Celts in Anglo history occupy a space similar to the provincial minorities in Russian and Chinese histories. At times, rebelling against the imperial heartland, at others, overrepresented as imperial enforcers, as its warriors, merchants, investors, scientists, artists. Talent is often found at the peripheries of empires after all.
So to answer the question: "Have Celts ever actually done anything"
And like the Manchus in China or the various ethnic minorities that came to rule Russia, the Celts also had elite representation in Anglo dynasties such as the Tudors, Stuarts, Kennedys
What do you mean by "Celts"? Do you mean Continental Celts? Insular Celts? Also, I'd like to note that insular Celts didn't share an origin or material culture with Continental celts (such as Gauls) but did/do speak Celtic languages (attached is a chart).
If you understood why people said theres no such thing as "Celts" you'd be happy.
It's brushing away the grime and dirt and revealing the groupings underneath. Holding them up above fake terms like "Celt".
It's not saying Irish, Welsh, Scots or Scot-Irish or any other group doesn't exist, its not erasing anything the opposite. "Celt" is doing that, its an incredibly destructive term.
False equivalency, in saying "celt" doesn't exist we are not saying any other group doesn't exist.
Its not relevant to the conversation.
Other terms will have different considerations.
So saying "celt" doesn't exist is not saying "Egyptian" does not exist.
Specifically "Celt" is a problem term.
But celt desigbates a language family; exactly like germanic; why isn't the latter damaging?
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Apples and oranges whataboutism, we have the term "Celt" "celtic" referring to a group that never actually existed.
You are trying to find offence and make it an us vs them argument when its not the point.
You are trying to hysterically claim you are being erased. If someone said Scots-Irish didn't exist you'd have a point, "Celt" as its being misused is applied erroneously to a great number of groups.
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Stop avoiding and answer why one is ok and the other isn't; coward
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Anonymous
It's kinda hilarious to me you think i give a frick about the term Germanic.
You are strawmanning fishing for ad hominem
2 months ago
Anonymous
>I-I don't care abou germanic
Lmao, I knew it, you don't actually a good reason
2 months ago
Anonymous
>y-you are germanic trying to erase me
I am a celtskeptic it means i don't think "celts" exist based on the evidence.
Thats the consensus in academia
2 months ago
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>Thats the consensus in academia
proof though
2 months ago
Anonymous
do you speak "celtic"?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I asked for proof of academic consensus not you asking me a question which doesn't have anything to do with that.
2 months ago
Anonymous
so you don't speak "celtic"?
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you speak germanic though, are you germanic? You speak Germanic but not celtic yet call yourself "celt"
Strange. It's almost like your argument is bad.
What are you talking about? I don't really care about your semantics I asked for proof of academic consensus. Can you show the this academic consensus?
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Anonymous
I asked for proof of academic consensus not you asking me a question which doesn't have anything to do with that.
you speak germanic though, are you germanic? You speak Germanic but not celtic yet call yourself "celt"
Strange. It's almost like your argument is bad.
Overrepresented amongst mercenary companies in most of the wars of Europe. You can find them fighting in some of the wars of Eastern Europe
Overrepresented as a military and naval presence in the British Empire and United States. Look up the great battles the British fought in Africa or its naval expeditions across much of the world and notice the sheer amount of Welsh, Scottish and Irish names. Look at the United States military history and see a pattern of the Scots-Irish dominating military roles as generals, commanders and a bulk of the warrior caste
>Military in the British Empire
Yeah, and a Celtic country was the seat of power of that empire was it?
no, they were property of England because they got btfo by the English
Sure but that wasn't the question, so it's silly to move goalposts.
Celts in Anglo history occupy a space similar to the provincial minorities in Russian and Chinese histories. At times, rebelling against the imperial heartland, at others, overrepresented as imperial enforcers, as its warriors, merchants, investors, scientists, artists. Talent is often found at the peripheries of empires after all.
So to answer the question: "Have Celts ever actually done anything"
And like the Manchus in China or the various ethnic minorities that came to rule Russia, the Celts also had elite representation in Anglo dynasties such as the Tudors, Stuarts, Kennedys
no they didn't because "Celts" are not a group
What do you mean by "Celts"? Do you mean Continental Celts? Insular Celts? Also, I'd like to note that insular Celts didn't share an origin or material culture with Continental celts (such as Gauls) but did/do speak Celtic languages (attached is a chart).
Heres the thing, "celts" never actually existed. This explains why they never did anything.
Same thing with Germanics
no, thats a false equivalency.
>My made up group is real but YOURS ISN'T
>schizo that doesn't understand what a language group is
a modern devised " language group" is not an ethnicity, race or culture.
You are moronic (always)
>try to change topic
Admit right now that the celtic family of languages exists
Coward
>a language group doesn't imply a culture
More schizoid ramblings
Nice erasure. So I guess I dont exist?
Thats not whats being said. You are not a "celt"
My entire mother's side is Scots-Irish.
Ok, Scots-Irish are not "Celts" they are Scots-Irish.
You are being a weasel.
>it's Alamanni and Goths not "germanic"
If you understood why people said theres no such thing as "Celts" you'd be happy.
It's brushing away the grime and dirt and revealing the groupings underneath. Holding them up above fake terms like "Celt".
It's not saying Irish, Welsh, Scots or Scot-Irish or any other group doesn't exist, its not erasing anything the opposite. "Celt" is doing that, its an incredibly destructive term.
>"Celt" is doing that, its an incredibly destructive term.
But somehow germanic isn't right?
False equivalency, in saying "celt" doesn't exist we are not saying any other group doesn't exist.
Its not relevant to the conversation.
Other terms will have different considerations.
So saying "celt" doesn't exist is not saying "Egyptian" does not exist.
Specifically "Celt" is a problem term.
But celt desigbates a language family; exactly like germanic; why isn't the latter damaging?
Apples and oranges whataboutism, we have the term "Celt" "celtic" referring to a group that never actually existed.
You are trying to find offence and make it an us vs them argument when its not the point.
You are trying to hysterically claim you are being erased. If someone said Scots-Irish didn't exist you'd have a point, "Celt" as its being misused is applied erroneously to a great number of groups.
Stop avoiding and answer why one is ok and the other isn't; coward
It's kinda hilarious to me you think i give a frick about the term Germanic.
You are strawmanning fishing for ad hominem
>I-I don't care abou germanic
Lmao, I knew it, you don't actually a good reason
>y-you are germanic trying to erase me
I am a celtskeptic it means i don't think "celts" exist based on the evidence.
Thats the consensus in academia
>Thats the consensus in academia
proof though
do you speak "celtic"?
I asked for proof of academic consensus not you asking me a question which doesn't have anything to do with that.
so you don't speak "celtic"?
What are you talking about? I don't really care about your semantics I asked for proof of academic consensus. Can you show the this academic consensus?
you speak germanic though, are you germanic? You speak Germanic but not celtic yet call yourself "celt"
Strange. It's almost like your argument is bad.
you don't REALLY have an identity if you think you are being erased when some generalised term like "Celt" is deleted.
Lets be honest you are larping.
Romans WERE Celts.
No.