Have self help books actually helped any of you?
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Have self help books actually helped any of you?
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A little.
Maybe some of them help some people. The really pernicious thing about them is that they promote the view that books are to be read for a certain end: that one can skip the pain and pleasure and uncertainty of growth and learn a certain thing directly. Just read the classics and see a therapist.
>Just read the classics and see a therapist.
I neither have the time nor money for either of those.
therapy is a scam but you can read most of the classics literally for free
>see a therapist
>read the classics
Six Pillars of Self-Esteem helped me a ton, I've been shilling it ever since.
>just write those sentences again and again every day bro
>trust me you'll acquire confidence
this is so moronic
It’s not.
The voices in your head are mean to you.
Writing down the same thing everyday puts a new, productive voice in your head.
So you believe that only marketing departments have the capacity to hack your little brain? If you understood neuroscience better you would realize you can totally hack yourself into improved motivation and habits. Not a skill exclusive to Faceberg algorithms.
It's unironically true bro, you're training your brain, stop being a midwit thinking you're better than normies who know how to function and refrain from abusing themselves without having to think about it.
Not if you understand the bicameral mind.
Depends on what your goal is. They're great for building a productive life but as far as personal development you'll need philosophy or (way more important) life experiences
Most modern day self-help books that I perused have been quite useless, but there's two older once that have actually had an effect on my life.
>"the Human Machine" by Arnold Bennett
>"Strength of Will" by E. Boyd Barret (or alternatively "Will to Win" which is more or less the same material but condensed and dressed to children/teenagers.
Arnold Bennett was a hugely popular author at the turn of the 20th century, although he's now largely forgotten. He wrote several self-help booklets as well, and this one I've found to be the most helpful. Particularly what he has to say about the importance of "disciplinary concentration" as a means to make your mind obedient.
E. Boyd Barret was an early 20th century Jesuit Catholic priest who wrote these two books about training your willpower. He proposes a systematic way to develop your willpower through various exercises. I've actually put into practice his method and found a tangible increase in self-discipline and willpower which in turn has noticeably improved my life.
Between these two books I became much, much more self-disciplined and in control of my life. I literally went from being a fat NEET to losing weight and getting a job in the span of a couple of months.
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addressed* not dressed
As much as my self-discipline has improved I'm still moronic.
Can you tell me who writes “will to win”?
There are a lot of books that pop on Amazon with that title.
Perhaps "Will to Win", which is more or less the same material but condensed and dressed to children/teenagers, was written by E. Boyd Barret, author of "Strength of Will". If only somehow that information had been contained somewhere in the original post you are replying to.
https://archive.org/details/TheWillToWin
learn to read, moron
You are a bit of an ass, but I thank you for taking the time anyway
Good recs, thank you. I am 150 pages already into Strength of Will and going to try these exercises.
60 pages in bretty gud
>going to try these exercises.
You should definitely do them, even if they seems a bit silly. What he talks about in regard to 'awakening the will' is absolutely true; at a certain point you'll just feel a certain sense of self control well up inside of you and I can only ascribe it to exercising my will in the way he describes.
I used to thrall archive.org for all sorts of books on self-development. I found him accidentally because he was referenced in some random book about dieting/weightloss from the 70's that I just happened to click on because it had "willpower" in its title.
Reading this now.. good start.. reminds me of Jungs verbiage
How did you discover the Boyd Barret one? Its presence on the internet is almost non-existent, it seems to be a very obscure book.
You have to be able to help yourself. The books just help if you are truly determined, they can help you see things in yourself that you haven’t given much consideration to. Stick to the older stuff imo. It’s all good. Tony Robbins is good too. A lot of it is based on General Semantics. The relationship between language and emotion
the problem with self help books is they are almost always written by some moron who is advocating what ever flavor of the month "life lesson" that they are CURRENTLY conviced they are experiencing at that very moment. Theres no objectivity, no restraint, no consideration. the author just writes out whatever shit head opinion they have currently, and assumes it as a general rule that should be adopted by the masses regardless of circumstance.
its arrogance of the highest order, and self delusion.
you inevitably get midwit takes like
>we're all just specks of dust on a floating rock in space, SO JUST GO FOR IT GIRL!!!
it reminds me of that terrible skillshare website, where every single video was some butthole treating it as a side hustle who had no idea what he was talking about, but looked up a wikipedia article 10 minutes before and now he's going to teach the topic
nakadashi
I really like this guys Analysis of the “self help” industry https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLTLkCBSN8&pp=ygUUU2VsZiBoZWxwIGJvb2tzIHNjYW0%3D
The worst are books written by rich kids who think they got there by their own merit when it really just boiled down to inheritance money.
That being said the one self help book I recommend is “ There's a Hole in My Love Cup: The Badass Counseling Method for Healing the Soul and Unleashing Greatness” it really helped my friend out.
God I hate how youtube videos are edited these days.
>self help is a scam they only want your money
>subscribe to my patreon btw 🙂
lol
*crack* *sip* yeah I tell ya what, that there Jordan Peterson is a midwit. I cleaned my penis everyday for a week and still had headcheese.
Thoughts about using Day Bang and Bang books as self-help to stop being incel?
Roosh V reccomends to take piece of paper and write 10 last cool things you did 10 annecdotes , whatever 10 things about you, where are you from, hobbies etc, and then use it in scenarios to pick up girls with. Has anyone here read these books and did things like these?
I am boring nonNT nonnormie, but ithink I can talk about some travelling I did, about books I read and that I like writing, about gym too things like these
Forget all that shit. Go with the original. It works and it helped me get laid.
this is the incredibly old concept of positive affirmations (which do work, in that it's better than constantly conjuring phantoms to fear and abusing yourself in your head) and you'd be much better served reading a book on cognitive behavioral therapy or something and cultivating some skills/lifestyles you can be proud of and comfortable with
I'm 34.
I was a really promising kid, 99th percentile everything, elite athlete, gifted, music, the whole deal.
Around 20 I started showing schizo/bipolar symptoms. I dropped out of college. I had a bad shroom trip that landed me in the hospital. I did menial labor through my 20s with morons and excons and such. At 29 I had a manic psychosis that took the shreds of my reputation and burned them to ash.
>spouted all sorts of insane /misc/ stuff to everyone I knew
>honestly it was getting into /x/ territory
weed had a lot to do with it. I quit but relapsed like two years ago. I still need it to sleep.
When sober now I feel pretty sane and healthy. High IQ, even. I've remained IQfy though everything else has collapsed.
What books would help me? OP's looks good
P.S. I was a libtard then got "redpilled" but now I've moderated again. I know everyone online did this around the Trumpening but it might help make clear that I definitely let my Jungian shadow out to play
I dont have much time but I found myself in your post. 95th percentile, been called a "musical genius", very good grades until I started drinking alcohol, from then on my life went downhill until I got addicted to weed and had my first psychosis. It took me 3 years, with one psychosis for each year, until I found what helped me: believing in god. Unironically. I would bet you are an atheist or something of the like, as I was. I never could have imagined that I would ever believe in god. But I got at it from the psychological perspective. I started reading Jung after my second psychosis, and encountered the phrase "the god of the bible is a metaphor for the unconscious". This sentence caused my last psychosis. After my third and last psychosis I read the bible (and did Active Imagination, a technique by Jung, simultaneously) and my psychoses stopped. Depression also went away.
do you take supplements or anything? Seems like there's a lot of options in that department
Lindsay Gibson's Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents; I thought I was autistic but my parents actually just treated me as a friend
Rich dad poor dad, though not entirely self help. Realized I should save money, work smarter not harder, and not repeat my parents stupidity of living paycheck to paycheck.
yes quite a bit and then not so much
The Adult ADHD Tool kit actually gives you a good framework and if you do the exercises as autistically as possible, you will surely make at least some steps into the right direction
This book offered a useful model for communicating with specific personality types and understanding my own. I highly recommend it, I feel like I gained a superpower.
Once I was taking a shit and there was no toilet paper, but there was a self help book nearby, so I used some of its pages to wipe my the shit smears off my ass. So yes, a self help book did help me out greatly, once.
How to be a father and husband by chris benoit helped me a lot.
"How to break up with your phone" helped me a lot. But not enough, as I am still looking on IQfy in my spare time.
I can't imagine what type of drooling moron would actually require to read how to live a life according to some other moron who has no clue what he's talking about. I don't know who the bigger idiot is, the person writing it as if he knew about life better than others, or the idiot actually buying the book and reading it afterwards. If you actually identify with anything these people write, then you've lived a life of comfort and relative ease. The only self-help book that could actually help me would be one exploring ways to commit suicide.
I agree, you definitely should kys
Could you go deeper? I need more from anonymous poster #88532 on this website, it means a lot to me
Sick of reading shit from millennials
Just like with everything, there are excellent self help books and there are awful ones. The gross generalisations you read on here about self help books are made by people who think they are above them. Even if you have the highest IQ in any room you're in, you won't get anything from self help if you think you're above it.
But sooner or later in life you'll realise that no matter how smart you are, your brain still does dumb things all the time. Don't leave it too late to realise that sometimes the only way to stop your stupid brain from making your life harder than it needs to be is by doing things you thought were stupid.
I'd pick 3 books that most helped me to be happy in life and feel like I was a real human bean it would be, in no particular order:
Bhagavad Gita as translated by his divine grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche
Journeys out of the Body by Robert Monroe
None of them are self-help books but they have all contributed to my life-affirming attitude and to pull myself back out of a rut when I'm in one. I'm no superman now but I feel like whatever I want to do in life I can do or figure out how to do even if it takes a while.
This alongside "Depth-Oriented Brief Therapy" was pretty insightful and helped me understand my own psychology better. All your behavior stems from emotional learning and counter-acting yourself never works and you fundamentally have to unlearn what makes the undesired behavior/feeling/thought so compelling in the first place. But really hard to pull off on your own without a trained therapist, kinda like trying to tap your head and rub your belly, trying to guide yourself to have the right experiences while also keeping a sort of cold, analytic distance from it all.
I've read tons of psychotherapy books and these were the only ones that have really stayed with me and that I regularly come back to and every time I extract something insightful from it.
they have, but you've all probably read my posts by now
sadly, porn is occasionally brutal and insightful and the other times it's schizo and contrarian baiting and shitposting. so its barely a self help book, but i def think you losers should read it